Does anyone think there's something bigger going on than the Covid-19 itself?
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Interesting to see this brought up on a sex forum. In my country many people believe that the pandemic is a ruse for totalitarian control measures (especially younger generations). I work in a financial institution and covid has indeed been a massive boost for our business - which has been alarming. What Chase has been saying is right on the money (I can’t speak to the China/Russia/Middle East stuff) and there are certainly many conspicuous links between 20th century catastrophes and those privileged to write monetary policy. In my position it’s easy to see how COVID has been leveraged to distort asset prices (including cash) and the consequences that will arise in the not too distant future. Pro-tip, don’t load up on debt right now.
@Chase your posts always feel like I’m discovering forbidden knowledge. The propaganda machine rolling against the scary, evil eastern countries makes sense to me. A lot of political theatre of the past year makes a lot more sense as a way to build resentment against those who oppose the Hegemony. I won’t drag you into a political discussion because l’m sure you dislike it as much as I do - but some really interesting stuff to think about there.
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Just reading this thread now.. some great info @Chase!
You probably donʼt want to say, but Iʼm guessing “approved” here might include “vaccinated”?
I have mere weeks before my quasi-socialist Western democracy starts strictly requiring that outbound travellers on planes, trains or ships are vaccinated, apart from narrow exemptions. This doesnʼt seem to cover crossing the borders outbound by car or foot, but that only gets you into another equally neurotic Western country. Inbound nationals (only) can still opt instead for testing and quarantine.
Iʼve been wanting to spend extended time in Africa, anyway, but Iʼm now faced with the choice of either:
I feel strange being so hesitant to take this vaccine, like a conspiracy theorist. Iʼm far from anti‑vax — in fact, Iʼd ironically be hustling to get some tropical disease vaccines prior to leaving. I am just really sketched out by this particular vaccine. Iʼm wary of the whole sociopolitical climate and particular things that donʼt quite “add up” in the official narrative. And the more Western governments push us to take it, the more fearful of it I become.
Realists would argue that mandatory vaccinations in free nations — for instance, of school children — are not unprecedented.
Never before in my life have I been so challenged over just what to believe.
Suppose that “vaccine good, virus bad” is true. Where I live, Iʼm fairly safe even without the vaccine, because I work from home, donʼt socialize much, some 80% of people around me are vaccinated, and our numbers are doing ok. By contrast, going to Uganda unvaccinated, intending to socialize and hit on lots of women, would be of questionable wisdom when they only have 0.9% vaccinated. Now, their case numbers are much lower than ours, but transmission may be vastly underreported there. (Other explanations include weather, younger population, “Hygiene hypothesis”, and population genetics.) Itʼs possible they have more carriers and less people getting sick with it.
Either way, theyʼve also done lockdowns at Western levels, and are telling the same “weʼre dying of Covid” story. So Iʼm not sure that Iʼm not fleeing a shitstorm for a shitstorm.
You probably donʼt want to say, but Iʼm guessing “approved” here might include “vaccinated”?
I have mere weeks before my quasi-socialist Western democracy starts strictly requiring that outbound travellers on planes, trains or ships are vaccinated, apart from narrow exemptions. This doesnʼt seem to cover crossing the borders outbound by car or foot, but that only gets you into another equally neurotic Western country. Inbound nationals (only) can still opt instead for testing and quarantine.
Iʼve been wanting to spend extended time in Africa, anyway, but Iʼm now faced with the choice of either:
- Going once it is convenient for me, probably not for several months at least — but then having to either submit to the “Covid” vaccine or pull off a tricky stunt to make it look like I did, in order to be allowed to board the plane; or
- Leaving quite quickly, before the vaccine travel requirement kicks in — but doing so ill‑prepared and having to sort out certain affairs after Iʼm gone rather awkwardly with the help of people back in my country and at greater expense and risk.
I feel strange being so hesitant to take this vaccine, like a conspiracy theorist. Iʼm far from anti‑vax — in fact, Iʼd ironically be hustling to get some tropical disease vaccines prior to leaving. I am just really sketched out by this particular vaccine. Iʼm wary of the whole sociopolitical climate and particular things that donʼt quite “add up” in the official narrative. And the more Western governments push us to take it, the more fearful of it I become.
Realists would argue that mandatory vaccinations in free nations — for instance, of school children — are not unprecedented.
Never before in my life have I been so challenged over just what to believe.
Suppose that “vaccine good, virus bad” is true. Where I live, Iʼm fairly safe even without the vaccine, because I work from home, donʼt socialize much, some 80% of people around me are vaccinated, and our numbers are doing ok. By contrast, going to Uganda unvaccinated, intending to socialize and hit on lots of women, would be of questionable wisdom when they only have 0.9% vaccinated. Now, their case numbers are much lower than ours, but transmission may be vastly underreported there. (Other explanations include weather, younger population, “Hygiene hypothesis”, and population genetics.) Itʼs possible they have more carriers and less people getting sick with it.
Either way, theyʼve also done lockdowns at Western levels, and are telling the same “weʼre dying of Covid” story. So Iʼm not sure that Iʼm not fleeing a shitstorm for a shitstorm.
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Ironically, that's what my girlfriend also says. Probing for a while, I think that she is actually afraid of the Romanian health system.
I took both shots and I am fine. On 22nd I shall take the third shot.
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Reminds me of my company saying to get vaccinated or I'm fired lol. And they don't count natural immunity either. I suspect I've caught covid a few times as well.
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Take a blood test and you will know for sure.
Edit: if you have caught covid recently you know should not take the jab as it can be dangerous due to overly high amounts of antiboties. If a few months have passed since you last caught it, you will only need one shot of mRNA vaccine.
Your MD should know.
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which makes it extremely suspect. Ofc you are more immune. So it isn't about immunity against covid. It isn't about health. It isn't about saving lives (you can still spread covid when you are vaccinated). It is solely about the vaccine and control. And if the vaccine is harmless (doubtful) then it is simply an extension of control. Then it is ONLY about control and nothing else. A compliance test.
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Yes in my case, that is clear. I have less chances of spreading Covid than most vaccinated... and regarding my own health... I caught covid twice and I was fine... and now with antibodies in my body, I am not at risk.
So yes, a compliance test - but more importantly, it is a pretext for mass-surveillance. Many countries in Europe have those covid-passes/green-passes where you have to be vaccinated or tested in order to be able to live normally (going to a bar, theater, concert, grab a coffee.. heck even see a doctor!). Now, once you take a test or the jab, you get a QR code which is scanned everywhere.
Basically the gouvernment knows which clubs I went to last week end.
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Same here.
They lifted all restrictions on sep 1 for covid passport (except clubs, which was lifted oct 1), so everything is open. No mask, no restrictions, no nothing. However, the price paid is that now 80% of people are vaccinated and the precedent for this kind of thing is set. We are seeing just the beginning. They keep lowering the age of vaccination. Now they have suddenly decided that even kids in kindergarten can get vaccinated. Sheer insanity.
Edit: And yeah, they are setting us up for a mass-surveillance state ala China. The vaccine passport is just the beginning of the social credit system.
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I'm in the EXACT same boat as you as far as this vaccine is concerned. I don't trust it yet happily trust all the others. And for the EXACT same reasons. Just letting you know that you're not alone on that.
Also; I'd advise getting out while the gettin's good. As you may remember, I'm stuck in the US for another 2 years. And I am absolutely TERRIFIED of not being able to leave once my 2 years are up.
Personally, I don't care if it kills me; I'm leaving one way or another. If it's in a box, a plane, car or even by foot I will be getting out of this bullshit country.
Just my 2cents
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There is are several big differences between the coronavirus vaccine and every other vaccine you have taken that puts it rather into a class of its own. Extreme government pushiness, the impressive product launch they did when they rolled the vaccine out, the level of media hoopla and the political polarization created around it. Most of those don't make for good reasons to avoid vaccination in the eyes of someone who is all aboard the vax train though. They'll just get you lumped in as 'another conspiracy theorist nutter' and dismissed.
However, one worth focusing on when you run into pushy people whom you don't want to get into a detailed immunology conversation with is its relatively untested (from a medical perspective) nature, which stands it quite apart from other vaccines.
Every other vaccine you've received has passed multi-year clinical studies before even being brought to market (generally it takes about 10-15 years for a vaccine to reach market). They perform these studies because vaccines sometimes have unforeseen side effects, sometimes emerging years after administration, that lead to those vaccines not being allowed on the market.
Many vaccines fail these trials and never make it to market, including ALL previously developed coronavirus vaccines, all of which were disapproved for being brought to the market as a result of side effects, some of which showed up years after administration, including increased sensitivity to infection with coronavirus, or infection with other coronavirus strains, or other deleterious effects on people's immune systems:
https://doi.org/10.1128/JVI.06048-11
Even after being brought to market, vaccines continue to be monitored for years, with various longitudinal studies performed. The 10-year longitudinal study is perhaps the most common.
Many vaccines have been removed from the market even AFTER years of extensive testing, including vaccines for Lyme disease, rotavirus, measles, hepatitis B, rabies, and others, due to side effects that pop up years down the line:
In other words, the vaccines you're accustomed to have all, without fail, enjoyed survivorship bias: vaccines seem safe, because all the vaccines you've had across your entire life, up until 2021, have been extensively tested and closely monitored over periods of years and found safe. Meanwhile the vaccines that weren't safe have always been eliminated via testing.
Then there's this one, rushed to market with unprecedented speed and minimal testing.
It's a bit like if every rocket goes through 7 days of safety inspections before launch, and then you have a rocket you decide to launch with half a day of safety inspections instead, because you dub it necessary. They tried that twice in The Martian and in one case it worked and in the other the rocket exploded. Because if you're not going to do the full safety inspection, then you're rolling the dice.
The last time there was a mass government/media vaccination push with a rushed-to-mass-production new vaccine, in 1976 after a swine flu scare, the vaccine ended up recalled after 50-60 million people in the US had already been vaccinated, due to unforeseen neurological disorders the vaccine caused, such as Guillain–Barré syndrome, which Wikipedia defines as "a rapid-onset muscle weakness caused by the immune system damaging the peripheral nervous system."
Now... that is not to say anything for or against this vaccine. I don't know much of anything about its long-term effects, and at this point no one much does (though curiously Wikipedia does note one of the COVID vaccines has already been found to sometimes cause Guillain–Barré). It might be mostly harmless, or it might have unforeseen deleterious effects. Who can know? It's a roll of the dice.
But a good retort for anyone asking after your vaccination status, one that completely avoids the "you must be an anti-vaxxer!" aspersion, while seeming perfectly reasonable to most people (because it is), is this:
"I'm just waiting for the 10-year longitudinal studies."
For every other vaccine you've ever had, they already have those studies' results, after all.
Chase
There is are several big differences between the coronavirus vaccine and every other vaccine you have taken that puts it rather into a class of its own. Extreme government pushiness, the impressive product launch they did when they rolled the vaccine out, the level of media hoopla and the political polarization created around it. Most of those don't make for good reasons to avoid vaccination in the eyes of someone who is all aboard the vax train though. They'll just get you lumped in as 'another conspiracy theorist nutter' and dismissed.
However, one worth focusing on when you run into pushy people whom you don't want to get into a detailed immunology conversation with is its relatively untested (from a medical perspective) nature, which stands it quite apart from other vaccines.
Every other vaccine you've received has passed multi-year clinical studies before even being brought to market (generally it takes about 10-15 years for a vaccine to reach market). They perform these studies because vaccines sometimes have unforeseen side effects, sometimes emerging years after administration, that lead to those vaccines not being allowed on the market.
Many vaccines fail these trials and never make it to market, including ALL previously developed coronavirus vaccines, all of which were disapproved for being brought to the market as a result of side effects, some of which showed up years after administration, including increased sensitivity to infection with coronavirus, or infection with other coronavirus strains, or other deleterious effects on people's immune systems:
https://doi.org/10.1128/JVI.06048-11
Immunization with inactivated Middle East Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus vaccine leads to lung immunopathology on challenge with live virus
(2016). Immunization with inactivated Middle East Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus vaccine leads to lung immunopathology on challenge with live virus. Human Vaccines & Immunotherapeutics: Vol. 12, No. 9, pp. 2351-2356.
doi.org
Even after being brought to market, vaccines continue to be monitored for years, with various longitudinal studies performed. The 10-year longitudinal study is perhaps the most common.
Many vaccines have been removed from the market even AFTER years of extensive testing, including vaccines for Lyme disease, rotavirus, measles, hepatitis B, rabies, and others, due to side effects that pop up years down the line:
In other words, the vaccines you're accustomed to have all, without fail, enjoyed survivorship bias: vaccines seem safe, because all the vaccines you've had across your entire life, up until 2021, have been extensively tested and closely monitored over periods of years and found safe. Meanwhile the vaccines that weren't safe have always been eliminated via testing.
Then there's this one, rushed to market with unprecedented speed and minimal testing.
It's a bit like if every rocket goes through 7 days of safety inspections before launch, and then you have a rocket you decide to launch with half a day of safety inspections instead, because you dub it necessary. They tried that twice in The Martian and in one case it worked and in the other the rocket exploded. Because if you're not going to do the full safety inspection, then you're rolling the dice.
The last time there was a mass government/media vaccination push with a rushed-to-mass-production new vaccine, in 1976 after a swine flu scare, the vaccine ended up recalled after 50-60 million people in the US had already been vaccinated, due to unforeseen neurological disorders the vaccine caused, such as Guillain–Barré syndrome, which Wikipedia defines as "a rapid-onset muscle weakness caused by the immune system damaging the peripheral nervous system."
Now... that is not to say anything for or against this vaccine. I don't know much of anything about its long-term effects, and at this point no one much does (though curiously Wikipedia does note one of the COVID vaccines has already been found to sometimes cause Guillain–Barré). It might be mostly harmless, or it might have unforeseen deleterious effects. Who can know? It's a roll of the dice.
But a good retort for anyone asking after your vaccination status, one that completely avoids the "you must be an anti-vaxxer!" aspersion, while seeming perfectly reasonable to most people (because it is), is this:
"I'm just waiting for the 10-year longitudinal studies."
For every other vaccine you've ever had, they already have those studies' results, after all.
Chase
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On this:
There is are several big differences between the coronavirus vaccine and every other vaccine you have taken that puts it rather into a class of its own. Extreme government pushiness, the impressive product launch they did when they rolled the vaccine out, the level of media hoopla and the political polarization created around it. Most of those don't make for good reasons to avoid vaccination in the eyes of someone who is all aboard the vax train though. They'll just get you lumped in as 'another conspiracy theorist nutter' and dismissed.
However, one worth focusing on when you run into pushy people whom you don't want to get into a detailed immunology conversation with is its relatively untested (from a medical perspective) nature, which stands it quite apart from other vaccines.
Every other vaccine you've received has passed multi-year clinical studies before even being brought to market (generally it takes about 10-15 years for a vaccine to reach market). They perform these studies because vaccines sometimes have unforeseen side effects, sometimes emerging years after administration, that lead to those vaccines not being allowed on the market.
Many vaccines fail these trials and never make it to market, including ALL previously developed coronavirus vaccines, all of which were disapproved for being brought to the market as a result of side effects, some of which showed up years after administration, including increased sensitivity to infection with coronavirus, or infection with other coronavirus strains, or other deleterious effects on people's immune systems:
https://doi.org/10.1128/JVI.06048-11
Immunization with inactivated Middle East Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus vaccine leads to lung immunopathology on challenge with live virus
(2016). Immunization with inactivated Middle East Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus vaccine leads to lung immunopathology on challenge with live virus. Human Vaccines & Immunotherapeutics: Vol. 12, No. 9, pp. 2351-2356.doi.org
Even after being brought to market, vaccines continue to be monitored for years, with various longitudinal studies performed. The 10-year longitudinal study is perhaps the most common.
Many vaccines have been removed from the market even AFTER years of extensive testing, including vaccines for Lyme disease, rotavirus, measles, hepatitis B, rabies, and others, due to side effects that pop up years down the line:
In other words, the vaccines you're accustomed to have all, without fail, enjoyed survivorship bias: vaccines seem safe, because all the vaccines you've had across your entire life, up until 2021, have been extensively tested and closely monitored over periods of years and found safe. Meanwhile the vaccines that weren't safe have always been eliminated via testing.
Then there's this one, rushed to market with unprecedented speed and minimal testing.
It's a bit like if every rocket goes through 7 days of safety inspections before launch, and then you have a rocket you decide to launch with half a day of safety inspections instead, because you dub it necessary. They tried that twice in The Martian and in one case it worked and in the other the rocket exploded. Because if you're not going to do the full safety inspection, then you're rolling the dice.
The last time there was a mass government/media vaccination push with a rushed-to-mass-production new vaccine, in 1976 after a swine flu scare, the vaccine ended up recalled after 50-60 million people in the US had already been vaccinated, due to unforeseen neurological disorders the vaccine caused, such as Guillain–Barré syndrome, which Wikipedia defines as "a rapid-onset muscle weakness caused by the immune system damaging the peripheral nervous system."
Now... that is not to say anything for or against this vaccine. I don't know much of anything about its long-term effects, and at this point no one much does (though curiously Wikipedia does note one of the COVID vaccines has already been found to sometimes cause Guillain–Barré). It might be mostly harmless, or it might have unforeseen deleterious effects. Who can know? It's a roll of the dice.
But a good retort for anyone asking after your vaccination status, one that completely avoids the "you must be an anti-vaxxer!" aspersion, while seeming perfectly reasonable to most people (because it is), is this:
"I'm just waiting for the 10-year longitudinal studies."
For every other vaccine you've ever had, they already have those studies' results, after all.
Chase
The analogy to rocket testing is a great one, it's at least as complicated and prone to mishap, and no one would dare suggest the idea of the world's entire population going off on a rocket without very good reason to believe it was 100% safe (and even then).
For me personally, the logic is even more simple. If the vaccine does its job, then it's the people who are at risk who need to get it, not me. For the very small minority of people for whom both the virus and the vaccine pose a risk (which must be a small fraction of the fraction of one percent who are at risk of dying of the virus to begin with), unfortunately the entire world cannot be changed to make accommodation, the same way it has not been changed thus far to accommodate people who fall into categories with far more numerous members, who face at least as much difficulties.
All sense of proportion has gone from this issue, and frankly, until it returns I am heavily biased against doing anything which even indirectly serves to keep it away. The real sickness here is not a biological one, and unfortunately for me, I live at its epicenter, exactly where the natural immunity is at its weakest.
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And the same pushiness comes from the anti-vaccine people too, as far as I can see. If you take the vaccine, they'll just label you as a sheep and dismiss you.
Dear ThePhoenix, just let it go, don't let the system make you feel you're doing something wrong if you know you're not doing anything wrong. If your gut feeling says go for it, then go for it, but if it says "nope", then do whatever you gotta do to not be injected. There are ways around it, as you know of course, so do your research and find a way. Regarding Africa … I think you'll rather get (killed by) Malaria than be killed by a coronavirus or an influenza virus.
Heisann Teevster,
yep, it sounds like:
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And if you scroll down on their front page it looks even better.
Chase, I'd like to add that while the "vaccine delivery systems" being mass-tested these days on mankind have never been tried out en masse, there is another issue: the S-protein. It's the reason no coronavirus vaccines have ever passed the animal testing. Even with traditional vaccines, the animals in the experiments died when they were confronted with the natural coronaviruses. This is what I worry might happen to my friends and colleagues in the future.
This is interesting man, especially in France with the elections coming up soon. I've seen plenty of talk amongst French folks regarding voting restrictions / voter profiling and such. Pretty crazy stuff, reg. the opinions on the pass sanitaire.
My $0.02, on the one hand the degree of coercion, the fanaticism, the anti-science rhetoric (blatant from the anti-vaxxers, but implicit in the pro-vax camp -- discrediting longitudinal studies, the avg. time for vaccine development, the clear side-effects, and IMO, more importantly, the very evident data, and admissions, from authorities that vaccinated people may transmit the virus at similar rates as the unvaccinated [so it's now no longer a civic duty folks]) has most of us skeptical. On the other hand, it seems, so far, that some of the countries that have achieved a relatively high % vaccination have resumed services to a fair degree (Denmark, Norway, The Netherlands, being a few). While some vaccines do have side-effects, it may be deemed that their positives more than compensate. And despite a large percentage of vaccinated folk in some regions, it seems that side-effects are few and far between (plenty of anecdotes to prove this, and perhaps otherwise).
So there's both sides to this, not much proof so far, and some definite (but rare?) side-effects, but clear benefits. At the same time, if vaccines were the miracle cure, why impose restrictions on the vaccinated? If they're not, why mandate vaccination? This is the dumbest part, imo. Screams control-freak behavior, and/or incompetence and PR-first policies.
Also curious to know why the West hasn't certified non-mRNA vaccines like those, say in India, for example, which have clearly decreased infection rate (the 2nd most populous country hasn't had an outbreak since mid-June; non-mRNA vaccines in line with current and historical standards of prophylaxis [not that random mRNA can change one's DNA]).
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At this point, there is no point in debating covid anymore. I matched with a girl who told me that by not being vaccinated, my actions are responsible for the entire population of Vermont dying. It is a waste of time to debate people who are now science pros because of what the mainstream media tells them.
I do think that there is a lot going on and we are in an information war for the ages.
If you guys haven't, I recommend reading The Sovereign Individual, it talks about a lot of this stuff and was written in 1997! I mean check this passage out:
I am however, very concerned about the future and my own future. I was living a good life in a deep blue state (name for US states that go overwhelmingly liberal and Democrat) and once they released the vaccines, things were supposed to be back to normal. My thoughts were that I'd get it sometime down the road. I had even started a gym membership and then weeks later, the mayor of the city comes out implementing mandates and proof of vaccinations. The social climate got so unbearable (this was NYC) that people were turning on each other, stuff like below was not that unheard of:
If you went inside without a mask on to get coffee? Some nosy Karen would ask you if you have been vaccinated and target you for it. After a while, I threw my hands up as the rents kept rising and I left the city. It still gets me just how compliant the locals were, how they happily went along with it, and turned on the unvaccinated. What I decided to do was move to one of the few states where the governors are fighting back despite being badly outnumbered.
I am not sure how much longer Texas and Florida will be able to hold. California is dumping its liberals into these states and illegal immigrants are coming in left and right to shift the states to the left.
The only hope and silver lining I really have is that there is a sizable minority of people pushing back. I have friends who see through this nonsense and some of them even voted Democrat. What I notice is that black, Latino, rural whites, and basically anyone other than the Basic Granola Avocado Toast white and Asian millennials are starting to question things.
In some ways I take solace in the fact that I am not really alone. When you read Instagram comments on the profiles of big name politicians and Youtube comments around certain headline news, the people are pushing back in a huge way. Large protests are happening even though media is ignoring them. The channel below covers all of them in droves, here is one in NYC:
At this point, as it talks about in The Sovereign Individual, I think that secession is likely to happen. Countries are going to be splintered into the category of those which are more totalitarian by nature and those that resist against it all. I am not sure how this happens but I for one am tired of Californians flooding into states on the upswing and infesting them with lefty politics.
Maybe states do become countries and the Texas and Floridas of the world enact anti-abortion laws that do not appeal to liberals who in turn flee those states which are now effectively their own territory.
I think that there is a sizable resistance to what the WEF and WHO are doing to where whatever transition they are forcing is not going to be too peaceful, unfortunately. I hope some miracle happens to save us but I feel like this decade more than any other, doomsday is happening and I do get scared some nights. It is hard to really stay level-headed.
Thankfully, leaving NYC has been a godsend. I implore all guys to leave cities where the culture has become as toxic as it has in Manhattan.
I do think that there is a lot going on and we are in an information war for the ages.
If you guys haven't, I recommend reading The Sovereign Individual, it talks about a lot of this stuff and was written in 1997! I mean check this passage out:
I am however, very concerned about the future and my own future. I was living a good life in a deep blue state (name for US states that go overwhelmingly liberal and Democrat) and once they released the vaccines, things were supposed to be back to normal. My thoughts were that I'd get it sometime down the road. I had even started a gym membership and then weeks later, the mayor of the city comes out implementing mandates and proof of vaccinations. The social climate got so unbearable (this was NYC) that people were turning on each other, stuff like below was not that unheard of:
If you went inside without a mask on to get coffee? Some nosy Karen would ask you if you have been vaccinated and target you for it. After a while, I threw my hands up as the rents kept rising and I left the city. It still gets me just how compliant the locals were, how they happily went along with it, and turned on the unvaccinated. What I decided to do was move to one of the few states where the governors are fighting back despite being badly outnumbered.
I am not sure how much longer Texas and Florida will be able to hold. California is dumping its liberals into these states and illegal immigrants are coming in left and right to shift the states to the left.
The only hope and silver lining I really have is that there is a sizable minority of people pushing back. I have friends who see through this nonsense and some of them even voted Democrat. What I notice is that black, Latino, rural whites, and basically anyone other than the Basic Granola Avocado Toast white and Asian millennials are starting to question things.
In some ways I take solace in the fact that I am not really alone. When you read Instagram comments on the profiles of big name politicians and Youtube comments around certain headline news, the people are pushing back in a huge way. Large protests are happening even though media is ignoring them. The channel below covers all of them in droves, here is one in NYC:
At this point, as it talks about in The Sovereign Individual, I think that secession is likely to happen. Countries are going to be splintered into the category of those which are more totalitarian by nature and those that resist against it all. I am not sure how this happens but I for one am tired of Californians flooding into states on the upswing and infesting them with lefty politics.
Maybe states do become countries and the Texas and Floridas of the world enact anti-abortion laws that do not appeal to liberals who in turn flee those states which are now effectively their own territory.
I think that there is a sizable resistance to what the WEF and WHO are doing to where whatever transition they are forcing is not going to be too peaceful, unfortunately. I hope some miracle happens to save us but I feel like this decade more than any other, doomsday is happening and I do get scared some nights. It is hard to really stay level-headed.
Thankfully, leaving NYC has been a godsend. I implore all guys to leave cities where the culture has become as toxic as it has in Manhattan.