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[bobbyb112]

I had a business idea for an enterprising person related to dating.

App dating manager. Basically, you charge a client $1k per month, and you manage everything about swiping, messaging, and scheduling dates for the guy through the apps. You could log into their tinder/ bumble/ hinge profile on a computer (as opposed to phone), message them according to time rules and messaging (unique to the client so that you don't get flagged as copying each other), you schedule the dates through a google voice number (so you can manage it on a computer, as opposed to the phone). You set up dates for the guy at the spot of his choice.

If you do this for 10 guys at a time, that's $10k per month, which is $120k per year. You automate a large part of this, because most of it is systematic and formulaic. And the result is that the guy has a date every day of the week. (You could also help him get good pictures through a dating picture photographer). And he doesn't have to spend time swiping/ messaging/ scheduling.

It's genius! Is anyone doing this? I would love to pay for this service. I have a profile that can get matches, I just don't want to spend time swiping, messaging, and schedule. (Have I ascended into new realms of lazy, where I don't even want to spend time on apps to get dates? Lol). The point is, that time is better spent by me on work and making money. And I'd be glad to outsource my app dating process (which is 95% formulaic) to someone else. Someone should provide this service!

On a similar note...

Someone should approach girls on the street on my behalf. They open, and show a picture of me, and talk me up. Then, set the girl up on a date with me. They schedule it for a later evening. And I show up for the date. I pay him based on dates held, or some such other metric. And my time is spent on making money, while dates are set up for me. This seems like a perfect plan. Who wants to be my date-getter? How much would it be worth to have a date set up? $100? $1k? The problem here is, the guy would probably just keep the date for himself. I'd have to pay him a lot to pass the date on to me, rather than him just going on it himself.

 

[bobbyb112]

I had a successful night.

Last night I had a girl over for the second time. The first date, we had sex at my place. It was like 2 or 3 weeks since then, and we had texted to meet up before, but circumstances kept coming up. But she still said she wanted to meet, so we finally made it happen. I feel like when meeting with a girl for the second time, often she is kind of hesitant. It's has been hard to just set a day and time, and have her come. Nevertheless, she came, and she came.

She asked if I would date (her age) girls. I gave a joke answer, then said girls of all ages have their benefits. It seems like she is feeling out a potential relationship. I said I didn't want anything super serious, and said that again. I asked what she wanted, and she said just going with the flow.

What was really good about this session meeting up was, I decided to smile. Not in a broad, goofy way, but in a mouth closed, like you are about to break into a smile way. With some open-mouth smiles along the way. The point is, I decided to smile. And this put me in a way better mood, and therefore her too. Moreover, I was able to really be in the moment, and appreciate her beauty, as a girl, in front of me.

This is great, because in some conversations, I come across as abrasive or too much teasing and busting stones. I sort of did that with this girl when we first got together. Then again, the flip side is that maybe you need to be more "abrasive" to get to sex, because you have to avoid nice guy territory. The flip side of that is, maybe this is just part of my journey from nice guy to jerk to genuine guy. In any case, I like this smiling way of being, because it makes me happier, which makes the people, and girls, around me in a better mood.

This goes along with a lot of stuff I have been writing lately about. Like bunching your upper lip. It is basically just smiling. Isn't smiling a better way to go through life? If you look at Chase and Hector in the One Date trailer 6 minute video, both seem like they are close to smiling, even though they are in control and not "goofy". This is the way you want to be. Bringing the good vibes, without being goofy or an entertainer. This is what I strive to model.

Another successful aspect of this night was, even though I didn't socialize much during the day, at night, I was able to be in a good mood, happy, loose, and fun with her. This is good. I've been having trouble with that. Maybe you could call this social momentum? After work, before she came, I went on a long walk outside, and I exercised at an outdoor park. This definitely helps put you in a good mood. Before, I was staying in my apartment after work, before the date, because it was cold out. But now as spring comes, it is easier to get outside. Which is great for my mood. So that is good.

 

[bobbyb112]

I had another successful night.

One of the girls I have been casually seeing texted to meet up. She came over, and we had sex and hung out like usual. What was different this time, is that I actually enjoyed hanging out with another person. The vibe was not combative, and I actually had fun being around someone else. I did this by smiling, by bunching my upper lip, rather than a big goofy broad smile.

This is a big realization for me. My whole life, I have not enjoyed the company of other people. Sure, I can hang out with them, and be pleasant, and joke around. But I just didn't enjoy it. But last night, and the night before from the last post, I actually enjoyed hanging around with these other people. Note this is regardless of men or women. I just didn't enjoy it. But that last few days I actually enjoyed it. I knew in theory that one could enjoy the company of others. But I had never experienced it. But this was different. I actually enjoyed being around these other people. As people.

For seduction and dating purposes, this led to me just being able to enjoy the beauty of these women much more. I liked appreciating their womanly aspects. The "lover of women" vibe. This was totally fun, because I could fully enjoy their company and presense, in addition to shagging them. This makes the world a brighter, fully place. When you can actually enjoy being around other people, and women in particular.

Looking back, a few months ago when I was seeing one girl consistently, I didn't enjoy actually being around her. Because I didn't actually enjoy being around anyone. In any case, this made it hard to, well, want to see her more.

So, we'll see where this insight goes. The last few days, I also took care of my health, walking outside in the sun, working out, and eating and sleeping well. That amost certainly helps with your vibe, and how you feel. So maybe I was just feeling physically good, so I was able to enjoy people as a result. In any case, it felt good.

 

[bobbyb112]

I went on a date last night.

It was from app. We met in front of the first place, and walked to the place I like to go. Sat in my favorite spot. Talked. Had her move next to me "to hear better". Talked. I didn't want it, and let it die down. Left.

For this girl, I did my normal app text process, and set up the date and all that. But right before going to it, I looked at her pictures again, and realized she was not very slim. I wanted to cancel, but figured it was too late to do that. So I figured I'd go just to be social.

What was really good was that I ordered a diet soda, instead of alcohol. She did the same. This was great, because it meant I didn't have to drink alcohol. The number one most unenjoyable thing for me about going on dates is drinking alcohol. But if I can just get a diet soda, that changes everything. It is great. I can just go, drink the soda, and not have to have alcohol. Genius. Plus, even better, it is way cheaper than alcohol. Soda is like $5, rather than a cocktail, which is $20. Genius. I should have done this forever ago. I can enjoy myself so much more. As well as save money. This is really, really good.

On this date, I didn't feel super motivated to escalate and try to pull and all that. Or have sex. Why didn't I feel motivated? I think it's because I've been seeing 2 girls lately, and had sex with them two days this week already. I just am not horny enough, to try to make things happen. This is no bueno. I probably should stop things with those girls, which are both basically FWB, because I need to save my horniness for meeting new girls. Honing my skills more. If I have sex with them say once or twice a week, that is about all the horniness I can muster. I mean, I could try to do more, but it would be an uphill battle. The motivation is just not quite there.

This has happened before. I see a girl somewhat regularly, meaning multiple times, and it kills my motivation to meet new girls, and work on my skills. I guess this is what happens when you break through to a new level. It is tempting to settle for what you have gained, and not seek to improve your skills more, to get even better results.

I guess this is the difficult part. When you get a girl or kind of girl you haven't been able to get before, and you want to hold onto it. But that way leads to trouble. F-ing FWB. It is tempting to keep seeing them, because it is easy sex, keeps me sexually satiated. But on the other hand, there are more dragons to slay, on the path to absolute abundance, or whatever. Can I say that I successfully got a "rotation", though? Lol, not really. Kudos to the guys who keep at it enough to build a rotation of, say, 5 girls at once. That takes some motivation.

Another thing is, I had fun going out, in that I miss the "thrill of the chase". Not that this date went very far, but I enjoyed being out in the field again, going on a date, and doing what seducers do. I sincerely enjoyed it. I want to get back to that. Espcially since I discovered that I can just order a diet sode, and that it costs orders of magnitude less than what I was doing before. This lowkey might be the biggest breakthrough of my seduction journey yet. How to go on dates without having to drink alcohol or spending a shit ton of money. This is a big breakthrough.

Where does that leave us?

I could start working the apps again, to get dates, and do them. I also want to start approaching during the daytime, and get off the apps forever. Hmm. Decisions. Choices. How about night game? If I can just drink a soda a night, or a water and lime, then that might actually make night game doable too. I'm not sure of venues. I also don't love the idea of staying up late and messing up my sleep schedule. I think street approaches are my best bet, for finding what it is I want to find. Maybe apps can be my backup.

It was interesting with this girl on the date. I wonder, wouldn't girls who are not slim work on their personalities or other mannerisms like voice and so forth? Point being, some girls are just more sexy, in their mannerisms, than others. What leads some girls to develop sexy mannerisms and some not? And it's not just sexual experience. It must come from some other motivation or area.

A good bit of it can come from their profession, or work experience. For example, girls that have worked in hospitality, can develop a good customer service type vibe. Like a friendly waitress. You just never can be mad at her. And she is always smiling or cheerful to you. Not that she's necessarily going to sleep with you. But she is cheerful and smiling, like a friendly waitress or hostess. This is a delightful vibe in a woman, because it is pleasant and just nice to be around. Not that every girl who works as a waitress, hostess, or other customer service necessarily develops this vibe. But, I'm saying, the ones that do, they make themselves utterly magnetic to men, for the rest of their lives. God bless them.

Another career of women I've met is marketing. This is more corporate marketing, which is sort of like business-y, but yet also just talking a good game. For example, girls like this will always have fun hobbies to speak of, even if when you drill down, they haven't done them in years. They will say the right things, off the bat, though. It is marketing. They know what needs to be said. Even if upon further digging, it turns out not to be totally true.

Another career is sales. These kinds of girls are pretty skill conversationalists, will ask questions, will have a pleasant demeanor and facial expressions. This can be nice.

Another career is programmer. These girls are often quiet, awkward, and cagey. This can be charming. At the same time, you kind of wish they would just talk like a normal human being.

Another is student. These girls are all over the place, because the lack of structure or accountability or schedule in their lives allows them to do whatever they want. Students seem to have all the time in the world, yet not do anything interesting with the time.

Another is doctor or other high-ambition career. These girls can talk with a low voice, like a guy. They probably have more testosterone than your average woman, and it causes her to want to compete with the guys in the world of work. The deep voice can be off-putting. Even if the rest is good on paper, if the masculine vibe is too, well, masculine, then it can be weird.

Of course, I am overgeneralizing here. There are plenty of girls that are "normal" in any of these careers.

What is perhaps surprisingly rare is a sexy, seductive voice. When you hear a voice like this, in a woman, you sit up and take notice. It is very... alluring. Sexy. Just by voice. Not that many women have it. Or, maybe you don't meet a lot of single women that have it. Because they are quickly scooped up, because guys like it so much!

You can have the same effect, as a man, using your voice. Chase, in his interviews on youtube, is a great model for this. I'm still sort of figuring this out. I'm not quite sure how to make my voice both loud/powerful as well we smooth/seductive. Any tips? I feel like voice is something you should be able to work on your own, and really get it down well.

Another sexy mannerism in both men and women is slow movements. The girl on this date sort of moved her eyes around a lot, her voice was clipped, and her face moved fast, and not on purpose. This didn't come across very sexy. Sexy is slow, deliberate. This comes across as sensual. Kudos to the women with sexy mannerisms, because not all of them do it.