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KJ Francis

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It's not about embarrassment, it's about not being genuine. I literally have no reason to talk to a six other than "practicing nonverbals".

Stunners respond well, sixes respond with suspicion. At some level they know they're at best barely a replacement to jerking off.

Sure I could up my game to where I can charm sixes and pretend I have interest in them beyond just "using them for practice", but that seems a seriously dumb thing to invest your limited time into.
What about a goal of only pulling off risky pulls? Like if you see a 6 the objective becomes heavy screen for bright green DTF only, insta-date, same day lay, public logistics pull... Otherwise move on.

It's still "practice" but with a challenging purpose. Like "Oh that girl's kind of cute... Let me see if I can get her to that parking garage elevator within 45 minutes... Otherwise I'm out."
 

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What about a goal of only pulling off risky pulls? Like if you see a 6 the objective becomes heavy screen for bright green DTF only, insta-date, same day lay, public logistics pull... Otherwise move on.

It's still "practice" but with a challenging purpose. Like "Oh that girl's kind of cute... Let me see if I can get her to that parking garage elevator within 45 minutes... Otherwise I'm out."
Thats a great frame. I'm definitely using that in nightgame.

I actually have no issue approaching sixes anywhere where it's plausible. I just didn't want to repeat myself, since I was replying within context.

I only have an issue with doing a big dramatic street stop on a six. That literally makes no sense. If she gives AI fine, if she happens to be next to me in the shopping aisle or bus stop, I will open her. If there's a natural and plausible situational openers, sure.

The context of discussion here is just "open everything that moves on the street" to "get the volume in."
 

KJ Francis

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Thats a great frame. I'm definitely using that in nightgame.

I actually have no issue approaching sixes anywhere where it's plausible. I just didn't want to repeat myself, since I was replying within context.

I only have an issue with doing a big dramatic street stop on a six. That literally makes no sense. If she gives AI fine, if she happens to be next to me in the shopping aisle or bus stop, I will open her. If there's a natural and plausible situational openers, sure.

The context of discussion here is just "open everything that moves on the street" to "get the volume in."
Ohh yeah I can see how it is unnatural to street stop open direct.

The only thing I can think of is to use compliance openers, and practice yes ladders and investment momentum.

I had this idea recently to open by asking her to hold my water bottle, then tie my shoe. Not field tested!
 

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Ohh yeah I can see how it is unnatural to street stop open direct.

The only thing I can think of is to use compliance openers, and practice yes ladders and investment momentum.

I had this idea recently to open by asking her to hold my water bottle, then tie my shoe. Not field tested!
The context here (within my journal) is that I was a super newb getting volume in by opening every single moving chick on the street, indiscriminately. About 95% of chicks are moving and in a rush somewhere.

I've come to the conclusion it's time to get more selective. That means opening in stores, seated girls, girls standing, girls giving AIs. So yeah compliance openers is one thing I can do for those. But it's time to move on past volume via moving sets and be ok with only opening the other 5%. Unless it happens to be stunner, be ok with not opening the 95% who are in a rush somewhere, be ok with walking past the 95%.
 
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KJ Francis

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The context here (within my journal) is that I was a super newb getting volume in by opening every single moving chick on the street, indiscriminately. About 95% of chicks are moving and in a rush somewhere.

I've come to the conclusion it's time to get more selective. That means opening in stores, seated girls, girls standing, girls giving AIs. So yeah compliance openers is one thing I can do for those. But it's time to move on past volume via moving sets and be ok with only opening the other 5%. Unless it happens to be stunner, be ok with not opening the 95% who are in a rush somewhere, be ok with walking past the 95%.
Sounds like a good problem, leveling up!
 

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I will be taking a break until spring. It's my fault that I didn't ramp up sooner... i first got these original inklings that I want to master this area back in march, but I delayed it till like summer, then had spurts of doing things. Money is also an issue, so I'm stuck between trying to get money and work on this stuff.

It's getting pretty cold here, and I can't afford the time to go to venues just to practice (or buy nice winter clothes). I've decided to take a 3 month rebuilding break. In this time I can lose weight, build/fix my income streams, and then start strong in march, like I should have this year.
 

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I had to leave the house to pickup some stuff. I don't expect to have much of these outtings as I'm going monk mode till spring. But since I was out:

- I noticed this interesting thing about my energy and how they respond. Since I decided I'm no longer a spam approacher, I get AIs and IOIs all over the place. It's kind of weird. But I think it's because I have this mindframe like "Is she good enough for me to talk to". It's almost like they can feel it. Instead of scanning to see whom I can approach, it's more like "Who's good enough to get my attention, I'm picky"

- There were 1 or 2 that I almost opened, but didn't because they weren't stunners. I think because I spent the whole time thinking whether I should open them or not...

> Some horny 35 year old HB7... by the way she walked, she glanced, it looked like she wanted to pick up some dick. I got the sense... i looked at her... and she noticed me, then as she passed me, she purposefully slowed down right in front of me, and did that slow walk thing right in front of me... I spent more time wondering whether I should or shouldn't open her and how.

> Noticed from across the street on the pedestrian walk a young maybe 20 year old HB6 (not fat, just not hot or thin, slightly cute)... I kept looking at her as we were opposite each other at the crosswalk... she started playing with her phone, then looking at the ground, then fiddling with her thumbs... funny part is lights turned green, she didn't pass, everyone else did... she kept looking at ground pretending to play with phone. I walked toward her, and INSTEAD OF saying hello, I looked at her like "Is she cute enough to open".

At this point I was like fuck man, I should at least say hello to these chicks that aren't a definite yes. That's what I said I was gonna do, remember? So next HB7 I passed, I looked at her, said hello with a smile, she beamed and said hello back.

It kind of feels weird to be able to get chicks to say hello back since this was a mystery for me for so long, but all it took was applying JTSunshine's method for getting responses to Hellos here. It works.

*Also did about 4-5 cold approaches for one of my business that doesn't involve approaching attractive females. I seem to do pretty well there. So I'm not all rusty.
 

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Such a weird phenomenon, but it works! It's getting cold here too, I hate it. Best time to work on leveling up yourself, so you can crush it when it's not miserable to be outside
 

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Such a weird phenomenon, but it works! It's getting cold here too, I hate it. Best time to work on leveling up yourself, so you can crush it when it's not miserable to be outside
Yep, can be used productively to level up in other stuff (I'm going to cut down a bit, and some other stuff until spring).

The lesson from last year though... start hitting it HARD in spring. Last year i only got momentum by summer time. This year I plan on starting maybe as much as a month before spring, so I'm already hitting the ground running when the girls start removing layers of clothing. By spring time they're already starting to walk around half-naked in daygame... it's better to already have momentum, rather than slowly start then.
 

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Yep, can be used productively to level up in other stuff (I'm going to cut down a bit, and some other stuff until spring).

The lesson from last year though... start hitting it HARD in spring. Last year i only got momentum by summer time. This year I plan on starting maybe as much as a month before spring, so I'm already hitting the ground running when the girls start removing layers of clothing. By spring time they're already starting to walk around half-naked in daygame... it's better to already have momentum, rather than slowly start then.
So smart! I need to do the same. Day game freakin sucks in the winter, but momentum going into the spring should give you a killer summer.
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

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So I had to go out shopping... it's pretty cold outside, and girls are all dressed up... so I assumed it would be impossible to even tell who the hot ones were... However I saw a 10 sit down at the bus stop, so I was like ok, there's like 15 people around her... I'm going to approach, I'm only going to practice procurring AIs/IOIs...

The seated 10/7

So I hear those dumb thoughts like why would a guy walk by the bus stop, look at someone, and then leave the bus stop. And of course, told myself that's a dumb thought. So I went there, walked past her, looked at her, and she looked up submissivelly, got bambi eyes, and then looked to floow with mouth open. Pretty good stuff.

To Improve: I realize I could have said hello :) Again who gives a fuck what people think or what happens. Just say hello. So Upgrade for next time: procur AI, say hello, continue walking.

But I'm happy I can procur AIs/IOIs... Also it seems 10s do still find a way to show off their body even in winter clothing. She still made it clear she is one (or at least was a 10/10 at 23, but is now like 27-29, so she's a 7 only due to age)...

The hot alt chick

Made another circle around, passed by bus stop again, and there was like a very sexual looking alt chick... gave me that wide open checking out thing. You know what I'm talking about. I checked her back out. Was like she's at a bus stop with another guy next to her, what I'm gonna say, continued walking... with a note to come back and if guy is gone say something, but they were both gone. Need to think what I should have done.

The dressed up milf

Saw some milf that I would have zero interest in, just due to age alone. Walked up, made conversation about bus frequency. It was good. Happy I can make conversation.

The shop girl

Walked into a shop where I genuinelly need something. It tends to employ these hot but super bitter 25-27 year olds. They all look like they're permanently angry at life. So I was like gonna practice my playa vibe. So I'm happy that I did hold eye contact, talked slowly... but I had meek voice projection. That gave me an idea... I can practice this voice projection stuff in stores like these... If anything these bitter chicks are the best. They're the ones who respond to voice projection and status best.

Analysis: Why procurring IOIs worked today.

As I walked out of my house I put myself into this energy/story that I'm the Big D guy that has a reputation for giving amazing orgasms to girls, and girls all around the city are telling other girls stories about me, and I have a reputation for this. Also I am fairly well-dressed, while standing out. I basically wear designer sweatpants with a nice blouse on top. Definetely look different to 99% of guys walking by.

Could have been the clothes, or the story I told myself, or it could be what I noticed last time... since I evolved pass "spam approaching" and adopted this selective energy, I think that contributes as well. I literally walk around looking at girls like "Is she good enough for me to approach and give her this gift", and they notice and start checking me out.
 

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I've attempting to apply resonant projecting voice since that's my biggest ROI thing to implement...

So some days ago I went out, coz I had stuff to do outside...

- I noticed a girl who looked dressed up all attention-getting from a far... could tell she was not skinny, but couldn't tell if attractive... she walked up to the bus stop and stood there. Some old lady opened here (probably small talk related to buses)... I was like I can't open a chick right in front of this other woman... but I said fuck it, went and opened her with my cold read opener... it's what I'm doing these days... asked her if she's somehow in the beaty/fashion industry or make up artist. Turns out she's a developer in banking industry... it was kind of awkard, but I'm proud of myself for acting like everything is normal and not buying into her akwardness. Btw, she was a 4 upclose. Like an actual 4, in every way. I only continued talking for practice...

Voice tonality: forgot to do it

Today had to go to some appointment

I vowed to myself I will do at least partially the voice projection/resonance with people at the front desk. I did like 10-20%, and my voice cracked a bit. But still happy that I tried.

Next walked past bus stop to see if any hotties

I started walking past, first saw some students with nice fuckable asses, but otherwise sixes... though the whole time I was thinking "would totally tap those asses", walked past them, next girl was a chubby 5, then a masculine 6, and then finally a girlwho was dressed up as if she was the stereotypical hottie and dyed blonde, but basically a 6 as well... so I'm like start walking home...

- Then I think to myself, I would totally tap those asses on those first sixes, I should circle back to open them even though they're sixes. I basically started feeling uncomfortable about not opening. This is coming from my spam approacher days when "i had to open everything", so NOT opening was outside my comfort zone. Then I said, no i'm not circling back, spam approaching is in my comfort zone, it feels uncomfortable to NOT approach them

*-This is basically my heuristic. I do things that are outside my comfort zone for growth. In retrospect I could have said "it would be uncomfortable to open them with booming resonant voice", but I get this now, in retrospect, while typing this at home...

Anyway I proceeded to grab some stuff from store, got all loaded up with big shopping bags, and then realized "you know what would be really uncomfortable? To open those girls all loaded up with grocery bags (several in each hand). AWESOME, let's circle back and open the nice-booty-sixes. So I circle back and they're all gone.

I see however some chubby student with a nice face. I open her open with my now default opener about if she's into fashion or stuff like that. TOTALLY forgot about the resonant voice. We exchanged instagrams... overall it was nice... in that I just have so much comfort, like it's the most normal thing on the planet, and I talk to them like i'm talking to an acquintance. Even if they are akward (which non-hotties) tend to be, I just don't register it and keep talking like it's the most normal thing.

Only issue again is that my tonality is meek, as is my body-language. Eye contact is actually good. I REALLY should pat myself on the back about that. I'm taking it for granted, forgetting that I didn't always have good eye-contact. So yeah, just voice is meek, and body-language somewhat meek.

I think making progress on the projection and voice will take me going out with the express purpose of practicing resonant approaches. Heck I could just practice asking for directions or going into stores asking random things. Issue is that it's cold as fuck, so I postponed this kind of stuff until spring. For now I only do the odd approach here and there, and since they're so sporadic and without momentum I don't think as much about things to focus on.

But still happy, it's still some progress.
 

bgwh

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Just an observation or something I realized. I was wondering why I didn't get IOIs yesterday, and girls didn't notice me walking by the bus stop.

Aside from not turning on that energy like last time, I realize in retrospect they did it in a different way.

The two nice-bum girls got really animated and turned their bums to me as they talked in an exaggerated attention getting way. The other girl was blushing and looking down in a shy way.

In any case, I should be opening these guys and reference experience will help me make those correlations.
 

bgwh

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No approaches, but lots of good progress and things learned.

Had to handle some chores so I decided to really up that "I'm a sexual rockstar who has a citywide reputation for giving women amazing orgasms, and girls out can recognize me and desire to use me to fulfill their sexual fantasies".

So I went ahead and did a 1000x on that energy. I noticed how my confidence was through the roof.

I saw anything fuckable in distance, I wanted to go offer dick.

If I was on an approaching outing would have gone out to do so, barely could stop myself to change route and go run up to them, but I genuinely was in a hurry to get chores done and run back home.

One that really caught my attention from across the street and I magically I came up with the perfect situational, cocky opener to say to her. Too bad she went in a completely different direction. Can't wait to try this stuff when I can have dedicated approaching sessions in spring.

This "coming up with clever situational openers" thing was something I believed I have to study and think a lot about. But just because I was in this energy the opener just came to me.

Practicing opening in the shop

Should give myself a pat on the back for this. I went into shop and said I must hold voice projection. Did it just fine. Not 100% like Owen Cook teaches but most resonant a projecting I've ever been in my life. Zero meekness.

Then went into another shop on way back home, the one where I was soft spoken last time.

I saw a guy on one end, but he was busy talking to someone. And then on other side 2 girls free.

I asked one of the girls if they have xyz and what the prices are like. Very resonant and loud (for me). So she ran to where the guy is and started looking at products. I (loudly and resonantly) was like yeah that product might fit, yeah maybe that product.

The guy started getting annoyed 🤣 because I was talking so loud I dominated the shop and his customer stopped talking. It was like silence. 😂

So other girl runs to help out, and the guy sits there looking pissed off. 😆

Then he asserts authority and starts telling me about product, but tries to throw in subtle digs, like with assumptions I can't afford it. But really looked like a butthurt beta. Was nice actually. While the girls were trying to beat each other who can be more helpful.

I felt this was like this type of thing where he wanted to betaize me with supposedly seeing me as the asshole. Like I should have acted meek, wait in line until other customer is done and talk softly, otherwise I'm an asshole.

Funny how the girls didn't see me as asshole, but we're trying to win me over. This was hella fun. Love this. Why didn't I discover this shit like 10 years ago?
 

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Had to go pick up stuff. I was exiting mall I saw a fine piece of ass at exit and went "fuuuck". She made me horny by just existing. So she turns as I say fuuuck and I'm like "wait is it raining". Coz she stopped at exit. She goes no. I was loaded with bags with my aunt waiting a couple of feet away so I continued, but I so wanted to run back and go hard.

In either case I have no idea what's happening to my confidence. I literally walk as if I fucked every chick and own their pussies.

Also weather isn't that bad. In retrospect I pulled the plug too early. Sure November is too cold to be doing hours of walking around looking for targets, but I could have decided to maybe do 1 approach a day.
 

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Saw some blonde dressed up to the nines. She looked like she is coming out of some fashion event or what not, but super dressed up. With a skirt where her legs looked naked, and this is in winter.

I started getting thoughts like oh she's gonna be a bitch. Oh she's probably going to the bus stop and im going to interrupt her so she misses her bus.

Basically she looked like the type of girl most guys wouldn't say anything to because she seems like she'd be a stuck up bitch.

So I open her something related to the fashionable choice she got going on. She beams up*. I then tell her we can collab some time. Then we exchange Instagrams.

*In retrospect I now realize that I didn't have eye contact, but I was less meek then in past such approaches. Overall I was pretty confident.

It's funny, but based on the past couple of days I feel like I've reached a level where even if I didn't improve beyond this, I'm still going to have a 0.1% sex life over the coming decade. Just off of numbers alone.

That isn't to say I plan on resting, I'm going hardcore in spring to level up and get the other skills dialled in.

I'm just thinking fuuck why didn't I start this 10 years ago. It was relatively easy to get to this point and if I did it 10 years ago by now I'd be in the top 0.1% of guys.
 

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Store nearest me was closed, so unfortunately had to go to bigger market a bit farther away. Passed 3-4 milfs that I wondered if I should open or not. Inside the store, there was one milf after the other. Though they all have a rather closed body-language, and I didn't bother and have nothing in common with them. Though I would open if given an AI or situational context makes it natural.

Anyway, I see this beatiful student, I go open her up promoting one of the things I'm promoting. She's really feminine, gentle and nice. I tell her about it, and walk on. But then I'm like man she's pretty, I gotta ask her to collab on something, so pretty. So just as I thought that, I see her hovering around me again (might be a coincidence, but there's a big chance she was trying to get me to reopen, and I was in completely different area of the market). I reopen her, we exchange instagrams.

- In retrospect, I was soft-spoken, but I had this kind of quiet confidence, like we've known each other for years.

Next I leave market, and see some hot gothic piece of ass heading my way. You know the type, could easily be an OF girl, with nose ring... I open her, say we should collab some time. Again, quiet, easy confidence, like we've known each other for years. We exchange instagrams. I ask one more thing about what music she's into, and give her a fist bump as I let her head to classes. I then notice first girl had left supermarket and was heading our way, so she's watching this interaction with another hottie and me fist bumping her... nice overall...

Summary: I was afraid I'd "lose" my mojo since I'm taking a break on forcing myself to make progress until spring. But I've actually had more progress with these random approaches here and there once or twice a week... they're not flashy, but they all result in instagram exchange, which is my goal anyway. Again, I'm not doing traditional pickup, I'm gathering leads for my IG brand. So in those terms, it's going well...

Though I do want to work on the other goals (voice projection etc), just not forcing it until spring. MAN do I wish I started this 10 years ago. By now I'd have harems on autopilot. I mean the level I'm at today, even if I made no other progress (in terms of ability), just by going out more (which I will come spring), i'm going to have more than an amazing sex-life. Not that I plan on remaining on this level, just saying.
 

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I just realized how open the first one was to being picked up. I didn't get it at the moment. She was hovering around me and giving me those 'ovulation glances', as I like to call them.

As I reopened her the second time she was leaning into me, so close, and generally very submissive body language. I was so focused on my script I didn't pick it up at the moment.

When she saw me vibing with that other girl, she had those glances my way again and I didn't pick up on it. Instead I was like "oh she saw me open another girl, better run home fast so I dont seem like I'm trying to pick up girls everywhere"... But she was actually walking slowly and submissively toward me and giving me those glances to reopen her a 3rd time. Might have even pulled for all I know 🤦

I think the main issue with not seeing these IOIs is just beliefs. Like why would a pretty 19-20 year old be into me, as I am, and I haven't impressed her yet with my status first. I think that's my main reason for missing windows.
 

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Just filling in stuff that's happened in meantime...

Sometime last week had to go out when there are people around (ussually get my shopping done first thing in morning in closest store so there's nobody to approach).

- Saw some overly dressed MILF, could easily see myself jerking off to her if she was in a porno. This is waiting for a green light as pedestrians. Said something to her about if she happens to be in the beauty industry. She smiles and becomes shy, submissive, and starts talking very softly how she's a language teacher. Instead of grabbing that hook I go oh ok, and continue on my way. Could have easily connected on the language teacher thing.

Today

Went out at my ussual early time so there's no people around... saw some chick looked like a possible milf, crossed the street to go closer and check her out. Closer I got, the more apparent it became she's a zero. But then back across the other side of the street I see two students who have the EXACT type and style of fashion that I work with. My instagram is growing like crazy because I collab with girls like that and they keep adding me daily. So this would have been an easy collab/ig exchange.

I cross street again... but as I walk up closer to them, I notice how shy the taller of the two is (tall, slender, model body), and then I look at her face and am like, nah not attractive enough to open. Which is COMPLETELY fucking retarded as far retarded excuses go, since I've never cared about faces, ever. She had a 10/10 body, and was like 19-20. So I didn't open a 10/10 body probably virgin that I could do a lot of work with possibly (tons of benefits even if its completely asexual connection), and I didn't opne her coz the "face isn't pretty enough". Fucking retard.

I think it was mostly about her making eye-contact with the floor, which now in retrospect I understand was shyness/intimidation, not "do not talk to me". I could have possibly changed her entire life and given her a great entry into something she loves. But I didn't open due to dumb excuses... gotta change that.

Lesson learned:

I think I should mentally prepare and get into that state even if I don't plan on seeing any cute girls. I basically was not expecting to see any, so wasn't in that mind state. Also the whole thing I have about how I'm talking a break from approaches until spring. I could still take the 5 minutes to get into state before I go out and do shopping/chores. I don't wanna miss like this, ever again.
 

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Approached 4 chicks, got 2 igs.

First one was coz I couldn't see if she's hot or not. So I approached to see up close. I rejected politely upon seeing not hot.

Then approached two who are my scene, perfect for collabs. Great conversations, where they work/study, talked about stuff. Really cool.

I basically found my niche. With girls who are my niche (artsy girls) we just hit it off and we vibe immediately. Do I have to study to be able to vibe with any girl? Not really, there's more of these girls who are my scene/type than I could ever meet. There's a ton of them.

Even the first girl who's not my type the interaction was so warm and friendly. It just feels surreal how everyone opens so well. I basically eject if they're not my type, but if they are, it hooks and we exchange igs.
 
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