frame game with tinder bookworm
for this one i was more subtle with age disqualification, and didnt reveal any sexual frames too early, which is the complete opposite of what i usually do online.
this led to her hinting at the sexual frame first, "my minds always in the gutter so thats where i feel like it is going".
i should have replied with setting a wide frame after she said this. ie "im open to anything.", but instead used, "i like women that put their real selves out there", in an attempt to tease out her frame more. this was unnecessary and made the conversation stall out. i keep using this line when i dont know what to do. gotta remove it.
since i tend to ignore girls alot, ive been trying out providing plausible deniability for me ignoring them, rather than just picking up the convo from where it left off. after i ignored her for a few hours, i told her i had a nap - she verbalized that she thought i was avoiding her.
heres the conversation:
more logistical talk happens and we agree to meet at her place instead. then some testing starts and i dont handle it so well due to the frame stallout and then veer off into qualifying her, also unnecessary...
we've been texting quickly but i start pulling away here to get more investment. she double texts:
i get her to text me and then fall asleep for a few hours. when we get to talking again, shes looking for my frame. this time i set my frame and it starts leading towards more sexual talk
Fog, there is no clear structure on the process you are using for online, is very disorganized with no clear objectives and you are shooting yourself in the foot causing asd etc... for no reason, you have that girl all over the place.. let me give you and example of a structure that has worked for me constantly:
open: goal is to get a response just like
Ex. hey future lover! ----> she responded = good that is what we want.
Bookwarm: how are you?
fog with playful bait: not good
Bookwarm: oh no why?
Fog: cause i still don't know anything there is to know about bookwarm ---> just a little flirty banter fucking around, now she knows you are not just robot before you ask qualifying questions... (this is just a sample, you do whatever is natural to you)
^ now the key is to get her to invest and qualify so you cont. with... Ready for your test! how happy are you in your life from 1-10? 10 being best?
bookwarm: if she says 10 Fog: that is impossible since you have not met me yet
if she answers with anything less than 10: fog:that is cause you have not met me yet, once you meet me, there is no doubt in my life your life will go to 10
^ also you have to have prepare a cool dhv response if she ask you something back for example from pob:
I'm 8,5 right now, but that's because I expect great things from myself! I cannot feel happy where I am, so I keep pushing things, specially on my professional life, so I can become a 9 at least and stay like that forever! But that half point is soo hard to come by, that's why I'm working my butt off and trying to improve every day.
now you want her to answer another question, but say LAST QUESTION, (so she knows you won't bombard her with question which is week)....
fog: last, what are your 2 best qualities that have nothing to do with your appearance?
again also be ready for a cool dhv response if she ask you, for example i say: sense of humor and relationship/people skills.
then right away you close (get her out of the app).... bookwarm i think you are SAFE and someone worth getting to know, i am barely here please text me at 325u3495, if i do not respond to you right away is not cause i am not interested in you or playing too cool for school but because i may be busy with clients...... Please say this is bookwarm from tinder so i know who you are....
^ this is a structure, after she texts you off the app.... Then you can game her, based on what she gives you, but sexualizing has to be subtle and you need to constantly ping for reactions to sexualize, that way you do not trigger the asd (you trigger asd a lot in your text which is why she is now shit testing is really asd)
This is another structure by pob:
1) Mmmmm, someone here is gonna be trouble (opener)
Any answer
2) Ohhhh, stop being sooo charming/cute!!!
This way we're gonna fall in love too fast....not fair!
Any answer (usually they'll ask where you live...if they do, proceed to route 2B...if not go straight to 3)
2B) Where do I live? Mmmm, I live in your heart, of course!
Go ahead, check inside there and you're gonna find me
Just kidding, I live in X.
How about you?
Any answer
2Ca) Oh, that's too far (if she's far)
2Cb) I like we're close (If she's close)
3) But tell me something...what brought you here to the app?
Did you have any good experiences so far?
Any answer (she'll probably ask you the same)
4Aa) Oh, thats great! (if she already met someone cool in the past) or
4Ab) Oh, I'm sorry to hear that
But I'm sure someone cool will come your way, like maybe a tall dark haired sexy muscular man (describe yourself here)
4B) So, I came here looking for the same thing as everybody else...to meet new people that are single as myself.
Of couse I'm hoping to find someone special, won't be sad at all if that happens! (you answered 95% of their shit tests with 2 simple sentences)
5) You look like a very positive woman...seems like you have an awesome energy!
I really dig people like that, who can enjoy great things and share a good laugh!
Like, on a 1 to 10 scale, how happy are you with your life now? (credits BD)
Any answer (she'll probably ask you the same)
6) (answer her question in an awesome way....you should NOT answer with less than an 8)
My answer would be:
I'm 8,5 right now, but that's because I expect great things from myself! I cannot feel happy where I am, so I keep pushing things, specially on my professional life, so I can become a 9 at least and stay like that forever! But that half point is soo hard to come by, that's why I'm working my butt off and trying to improve every day.
So, gotta ask you XXX (insert her name)...what traits make you an awesome person?
Like something that you have and everybody compliments and takes notice.
when she gives you the answer, she'll probably get back and ask you the same....so you gotta have something ready...I usually say:
7) Oh, it's soooo cool that you have X and Y (use what she told you about her main characteristics as a reply). Really nice!
Mmm, about me....I'm very honest and driven...like, I pride myself on my sense of justice...when I really want something, I just go after it and never look back till I get it!
About my personality, you could say I'm 87% work, family and friends and 13% muscular bad boy (think about you, this part must be congruent with who you are)
Any answer
(right now she'll probably give you her number or be left speechless that you are better than 99% of the online chodes, because you can keep a conversation going without asking her boring stuff or sending her nudes LOL)
If she gives you her number, add her and proceed with the conversation using lines from 8 on any IM (whatasapp, IG, facebook, whatever).
If not, proceed straight to 8
When you add her or she adds you, say this:
7B) Welcome, nice to have you here!
It's sure better than the other app, (proceed to 8)
8) Wow XXX (insert her name), gotta say, I can really feel this great energy between us...so strange because we've never been together!
Anyway, you seem like an interesting woman...I think we could meet sometime.
Simple stuff, on a nice cozy place, so we can seat, drink something and continue this cool conversation.
How is your schedule this week?
BTW, I'm usually free X and X day
(proceed with logistics...if you didn't ask where she lives, now is the time)
Boom, case closed, you gotta a new date on your calendar
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