Russia-Ukraine Thread

[POCCN9lHNH]

I just realized absurdity of the fact that Zelensky is the president of Ukraine.
Just imaging for a second, that America's head of the state is not Biden or Trump. It's Jim Carrey
Ace Ventura sits in the White House and governs the country

 

[trashKENNUT]

What strategy are you guys taking?

Alex Becker, Founder of Hyros. He posted on Facebook about this. (Disclaimer: Opinions)

- Learn NFT
- Invest in Singapore currency
- Move to Singapore and get Asian girls, be rich, and successful and do what you want reasonably except insulting other people's culture and religion

Singapore is a great place for expat.
Great food. Easy access. Females worship you because of novelty. They really love the Americans They need that AMERICAN Liberation seed man. Haha

If you plan to raise family in Asia, South Korea, Singapore, and a few countries have mandatory 2 years conscription for your kids if they are born there.

As for freedom of expression in Asia,

Just freedom of speech is not USA nor censorship is China, which is not.

Asia is not retarded as what it is portrayed but it sucks for freedom lovers who are pro-gun ownership.

z@c+

 

[trashKENNUT]

Added:

Asia has our own problems.

If you are a Muslim or Christian,
And you moved to let's say Malaysia. You will have 'Kuala Lumpur Muslims' and 'General Malaysia Muslims'.

That's an example.

I can tell you Westerners. It's living in 2 different realities. Which is what you guys are having now. But economically, we look okay. At least for now.

Asia is having our own revolution slowly.

Sincerely, we have our own fight between the LGBTQ/Gen Z and normal citizens. Normal citizens don't really care. It's the more older generation.

To make it simple:. Appreciate why USA exist.

We Asians are just in the super super early days of where America is right now. Move to Asia while it is still great.

Migrate to the West back in 50 years.

z@c+

 

[POCCN9lHNH]

To make it simple:. Appreciate why USA exist.

I agree. I ever to move out of Russia, I would go for US or China probably. The thing is you most likely will be immigrant for your entire life and being immigrant puts you down on the social ladder.
Other downside that it is highly likely that you will never get rid of your accent and the language is the most crucial part of your assimilation in designated location.

 

[POCCN9lHNH]

Iraq or Iran Bombed US Embassy.
Iranian social media massively spam: "Z and V, you are not alone."
They could have replaced Russian oil and escape isolation but decided to bomb US embassy with rockets.
Middle-east front opens up?
Far-eastern front will open up with Taiwan?
Immersive middle-east song

P.S. I suggest renaming this topic to WW3 Waiting room

 

[trashKENNUT]

When you realize that Westerners

are not used to really real world pains and then you realize that what you considered "normal", is actually fucked up.

omg. lolx

z@c+

 

[POCCN9lHNH]

Crazy Russia were winning before but now it seems Ukraine has turned the tables

Crazy someone still believes western/Ukrainian narrative
That I can not understand.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Crazy someone still believes western/Ukrainian narrative
That I can not understand.

 

[POCCN9lHNH]

Well Im not surprised western majority believes that Russia is evil empire. Im surprised someone believes Ukraine will win.

 

[POCCN9lHNH]

Yesterday Zelensky publicly stated that Ukraine lost 1200 men while killing 12,000. That's 1 to 10 ratio and one of the most successful defence military operations. I guess Biden will soon order to portray Zelensky as some kind of Napoleon. As for now Ukrainian army strategically retreats to Poland or one of other """"""""""Free World"""""""""" countries to live on laughable social refugee payments. I guess Zelensky will soon order siege of Moscow. Could have done it on the first day but that would unbelievable so he decided to wait. Now the whole world will know true power of Ukrainian army!

 

[POCCN9lHNH]

YOUR ARE SIMPLE NATO SIMP
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YOUR READ ON REDDIT THAT A FEW UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS WITH SOVIET SHOTGUNS SUCCESSFULLY DEFEAT DOZENS OF RUSSIAN TANKS WHILE MILLIONS OF RUSSIAN IVANS DESERTING THE BATTLEFIELD
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YOU QUICKLY PACK YOUR $30,000 TACTICAL GEAR
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WHILE DRIVING TO AIRPORT YOU IMAGINING LIKE YOU WILL BE ON SAFARI KILLING DIRTY RUSSIAN CONSCRIPTS WITH ONE AK ONE THE WHOLE SQUAD
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JUST LIKE IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN
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YOU ARIVE AT THE VOLUNTEER BASE, CATCH UP WITH OTHER REDDITORS, DOING SELFIES AND IG STORIES CHANTING "RUSSIAN WARSHIP IDI NA HUI! PUTIN SOSAT!"
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SUDDENLY "KALIBR" ROCKET FLYES THRU THE WINDOW KILLING 170 OF 200 VOLUNTEERS
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YOUR LEGS AND YOUR ASS ARE GONE
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LAST THING YOU SEE IS UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS PUT RUSSIAN UNIFORM ON YOUR WHILE RECORDING ON THEIR PHONES SAYING "MUSCOVITES LEARNED THEIR LESSON"

 

[climbingup]

Apparently there is going to be an agreement in the coming days and a possible ceasefire

 

[POCCN9lHNH]

Apparently there is going to be an agreement in the coming days and a possible ceasefire

The same way "Ukraine has turned the tables"? I highly doubt it. Putin will get tremendous rating loss if so.

 

[climbingup]

I have no vested interest in the war, I just find it fascinating and I'm posting what I'm reading. I do hope it's over soon

 

[Egor]

I really hate the term 'disinformation', and I will entertain most conspiracy theories, but this thread is just too much for me. @ chase had a dream of discussing at a high level, maybe that is unlikely amongst this membership.

 

[trashKENNUT]

this thread is just too much for me. @ chase had a dream of discussing at a high level, maybe that is unlikely amongst this membership.

I be the first to apologize.

It sucks.
It does.
I'm really sorry.

As one of the guys here, I genuinely can't see how we are going to solve this. Whether at Girlschase level, social circle level or global level.

How do I explain this to Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z... And should I get paid for my explanation since Gen Z are so keen on getting paid.

I'm so so sorry to all generations. I don't see where we can fix it.
My sincere answer: Make your world, small.

 

[Train]

I really hate the term 'disinformation', and I will entertain most conspiracy theories, but this thread is just too much for me. @ chase had a dream of discussing at a high level, maybe that is unlikely amongst this membership.

You didn't argue at a high level yourself so maybe it's just projection on your part.

 

[Will_V]

Apparently there is going to be an agreement in the coming days and a possible ceasefire

Well, it seems like Zelenskyy wants to accept Ukraine not joining NATO, according to news sources I've read. So that's one of the main things Russia is concerned about, and would bring them closer to an agreement.

I don't think Putin wants to level Ukraine, he would rather just have everything go his way and be able to pull back, and might still get it without having to do much more damage. In my opinion the biggest problem he has is the image of Russia being Ukraine's mortal enemy, when it would go much better for Russia if Ukraine felt like a supported, included ally, albeit lower down the hierarchy. The damage already done to the cities will make it hard for that sentiment to grow.

Also, if Russia do end up in control of the region with Ukraine included, it's difficult to say whether the West did them more harm than good by portraying them on the world stage in an image they struggled to live up to, and supplying them with weapons that might end up doing nothing more than causing a bigger backlash, all the while refusing to actually go in and support them militarily.

It would be interesting to know what the perspective is in Ukraine among the general population, I don't pretend to know what it feels like for someone to live there, but it could well be very different to what we see on the news. The reality is that Ukraine didn't really find a great ally on either side. That's why these kind of small border countries need to operate very skillfully and not let themselves be pushed around like pawns that both sides might be fine in sacrificing for their broader strategies.

 

[Rakkum]

That's why these kind of small border countries need to operate very skillfully and not let themselves be pushed around like pawns that both sides might be fine in sacrificing for their broader strategies.

I think you may misunderstand the calculation of these countries here. Their geopolitical thinking is optimized for 1) survival and only then 2) maximizing autonomy. I suspect that this is often overlooked as there aren't as much cultural and historical references to easily relate to that.

Hence the mad rush to NATO by Eastern Europe after the collapse of USSR. Even though Finland is neutral now by choice, it was forced into neutrality by USSR after the Continuation War. Also, it seems to me that the now EU and NATO integrated post-Soviet space is less jaded about West than the old West itself.

Hence many Eastern European joining the questionable wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and being a bit blinded to the historic and contemporary US and Western misdeeds in other parts of the world.

This thread is indeed symptomatic of the decline of the West [joking here, again]

 

[Will_V]

I think you may misunderstand the calculation of these countries here. Their geopolitical thinking is optimized for 1) survival and only then 2) maximizing autonomy. I suspect that this is often overlooked as there aren't as much cultural and historical references to easily relate to that.

Out of these two what do you think Ukraine is calculating for? And did they make a good choice?

The problem for Ukraine as I understand it is that they made the choice to try to defy Russia, and if they lose this war (or at least not win it, which seems likely) then they will end up with a powerful, hostile neighbour in Russia, no direct military support from the West, and a lot of damage to repair. Where does that leave them?