The Guide to Getting Hot Girls (of Any Type)

[fsc]

First of all, I'm a bit saddened to see that this issue has resurfaced and has heated up again. I wish I had the time to fly out to wherever ya'll are and try out your market for myself and see what happens, but I'm tryna finish up my last quarter of skool and find me a job (hit me up if your place is looking for a software engineer lol). I am saddened because I shared the same mentality/attitude about two years ago, and I know the disheartening feeling of seeing a hottie walk by without recognizing my existence and I'd be thinking like "Damn...only if I was taller and white with a nicer car".

Secondly, what's the big deal about having to see a man of your ethnicity succeed with a white chick? Why can't you just do it and be it instead? This isn't something where you absolutely NEED an external validation/example to proceed. An Asian-white pairing actually never registered in my eyes while I was in the process of kicking white girls off my pedestal when I was starting out. In fact, I started spotting them ONLY AFTER I came across a thread like this on GC last year. And even when I saw such a couple, I was just like "Oh that's cool". No big deal. It didn't matter at that point because in the months prior I had already made out with a couple of blondes and came really close to banging them. I mean like, you don't NEED to see someone ride a bike for you to successfully ride one. Just get on the seat, start pumping the pedals, and see what happens.

Also, don't be mad at white girls because you don't see them with brown dudes or yellow dudes or whoever. It's not the girls' fault; it's the men's. Most Asian guys are too pussy to talk to any girl of any race. THAT is why I rarely see Asian men with white girls. There are plenty of white girls who like Asian men. I mean, I've met white girls who knew more about Korea and K-drama than I did, and I was made in Korea. I'll admit that I did run into some difficulties throughout my journey though. Some blondie only wanted ginger boys, one left me for a tall black dude, I think two girls actually told me I was too short, some girls only wanted guys from a certain frat or didn't like the one I'm in, etc. But then again, even if I approached non-white girls only, I guarantee I'd run into the same issues. There will be Asian girls who only want white guys, Mexican girls who only want black guys, etc. Everyone has their own preferences. Whatever, move on. Don't blame girls for having preferences.

I feel like a lot of non-white men have VERY poisonous mindsets toward white women (well, duh, look at this thread), and it shows up in their eyes when they look at white chicks (well, more like stare or steal glances). Their eyes read "How do I get her?" or other needy feels, "I don't think I'm good enough", "I hope my gold-framed sunglasses and this large 'ARMANI EXCHANGE' printed shirt and jogger pants make me look cool", "I bet she's with a white dude" or some other jealous/bitter/spiteful feels, etc. I hang out frequently at hookah lounges and attend a university with a large Indian student population, and I see a lot of middle eastern and other brown guys look at girls in this way (most Asian guys don't dare look at a girl). It just feels very, very predatory and uncomfortable, and I'm just sitting on the sidelines observing. Imagine how you would feel if you were a girl and had guys leer at you like that all the time. It'd be game over before you even opened your mouth. You also see guys looking at girls like this in gyms too. It's pretty creepy.

So I guess one external fix is to stop looking at girls like this, and be more like this. Sorry, I'm bad at finding pics. The two don't fully communicate what I want, but I hope you get the point.

Also, ya'll are looking in the wrong places for role models. Stop searching for a brown guy or a yellow guy or whatever guy with a white chick. Look at those who are succeeding, regardless of color. So if it's white men that you see with white babes, stop resenting and observe. You'll see that he seems chill, comfortable, confident. I guarantee that if you happened to find an ethnic man with a white girl, he'd display similar characteristics...pretty much everything that's taught at GC anyway. Also look at his style and look at yours. Hair style, clothes, shoes, everything. And ask yourself: if you were a white chick who's concerned about social status and how she appears to others in her social circle, would you like to be seen with you?

I actually looked in the mirror and asked myself that question, and I realized I should get a haircut.

Anyway, if tl;dr, you only have yourself to blame. Don't hate girls. Don't hate white guys. Quit whining. Find your balls.

 

[fsc]

Dudes,if you're not white American, tall, good looking, rich, athletic, party boy, you might as well give up on the blondes.

You also gotta be in a frat.

Celebrities are a poor example of anything, at that point anyone with awful game can have any kind of girl they want

Agreed. Fame is prolly the strongest preselection

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

After hearing so much about blondes, I was almost forced to post on this thread which I hope does not get locked because there is much discussion to be had and things I want to share as a guy who has had success with them.

The point almost every single person missed on this thread is that blonde bombshells are not rejecting men from certain minority groups for their culture and behavior, they are rejecting them for their ethnic appearance. A lot of these blonde bombshells are not just rejecting the Asian male fresh out of Asia with an accent and foreign beliefs, they are rejecting Harold and Kumar. So you can have some guy who is Indian, good fundamentals, not bad looking at all, and as white washed as a white guy in behavior but even he will have his struggles. The guy might even do well with different types of hot girls but the blonde bombshells will hold being Indian against him almost all the time.

Notice I said blonde bombshells and not hot blondes, which means that if he wants, that Indian guy can still get a good looking blonde in bed with him but he will likely have to make a compromise.

The hot blonde from Russia, Poland, Europe, rural America, and ones who run in highly educated circles (professional schools) will be open to going for a higher value Indian guy. I have slept with hot blondes that fit those categories and I have found that you are mainly judged by how alpha you are, how tight your game is, how good you look, and how much fun you can bring.

Unfortunately none of the blondes I described really fit the blonde bombshell image Chase talked about in his blog post. The blonde bombshell that follows media closely and is from suburban USA will just not be that open to going for an Indian looking guy no matter how white washed he is, how much game he has, or how handsome he might look. Your typical All American blonde bombshell that runs in the shallow cliques such as sororities loaded with hot girls will not go for a brown guy unless he has unbelievably high value such as being a star athlete in college, in a top fraternity house (which is actually pretty tough to get a bid for in general, never mind being a minority), or has celebrity status on the level of Aziz Ansari. The reality is that the social circles, families, and friends of these women are very close minded and will harshly judge her for going out with a brown guy no matter how he might be like as a person.

I have met good looking women with blonde hair who went for brown guys but they did not fit the blonde bombshell image. Others may have different experiences but I think that a higher value brown guy can definitely have sex with good looking blondes (I am living proof of it), he just won't be able to land women who fit the image of the blonde bombshell. The guy might sleep with that Scandinavian beauty, naturally hot blonde of Scandinavian heritage from a small midwestern USA town, or that erection inducing Russian milf but he will likely not be able to get that hot blonde with a fake tan who comes from the judgmental social circles of suburban America.

Think about it this way though, at that point, you're simply chasing an image rather than what you're attracted to.

With the hot Scandinavian blonde, you get a hot girl who is naturally blonde and good looking.
With the hot blonde bombshell of suburban USA, you're getting a bottle blonde that has to spends hundreds of dollars on making her hair another color to compensate for her looks.

Why bother at that point? Why not just date a pretty brunette and ask her to dye her hair blonde or just ask your European girlfriend to start acting like a spoiled American woman from the suburbs?

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

While most of my role models IRL who slept with hot girls have been white guys and they have been the main ones helping me in my journey, the truth is that if you are not a white guy then you won't be seen as a white guy by women. I know it's unfair but your race is a part of your overall appearance and what works for some tall White guy with blonde hair and blue eyes will not work for a Sendhil Ramamurthy lookalike. The types of places in America where a lot of these blonde bombshells usually come from (the suburbs, wealthier areas of a city, etc.) are places where people are shallow, judgmental, and vain people and trying to climb the social ladder congregate. A lot of these women are taught to practically worship media and stereotypes and certain races are just not seen as "cool" (any race that is not white or in some cases black). When these women meet a handsome Indian guy that sounds like Sanjay Gupta and has tight fundamentals, they are still thinking he is Indian and being Indian in their eyes is still a bad thing.

My advice is avoid these women, no self-respecting guy should waste his time on a demographic of women who already view him as inferior because of his race. If you want to have sex with hot blondes, they come in a lot of varieties, the bimbo from the shallow culture of suburban USA is not the only kind of hot blonde out there. The truth can be hard to accept but that is what it is, unless these women are old and past their prime, the idea of going for certain races is just not an option to them no matter high value a man of that race might be.

I don't want to discourage anyone here, by all means game these women no matter what your race/ethnicity might be but know that this is what you are up against. Maybe one of you reading this has success with the blonde bombshell archetype and can share their experiences here but in my many years of running game, I have yet to witness it.

 

[The Armani Code]

Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advantage?

I have been thinking about this after reading some of the articles on Girlschase like this one:

https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-h ... ican-girls

Lets say compared to your average Asian or Indian guy in the USA who is more of a dork due to his cultural upbringing; you're a guy from that race who is more alpha and masculine. To top it all off you're also pretty good looking compared to men of your race and have a lot of the fundamentals down right. At that point, I've been thinking, does your exotic appearance turn into an advantage rather than a disadvantage?

It's like even though girls may dislike the idea of going for most men of your own race, by just being on top of your game you stick out a lot in a good way to where even girls who might not like your race are now going for a guy like you. Has anyone actually seen a case like that happen?

 

[Rusty]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

I've seen it happen. For me. Lol.

It's so not a big deal. Get over it guys.

It's only a big deal because it's not part of your reality... yet.

Most women don't have a precedent of dating outside their race. Honestly speaking, there's no driving reason for most white/black/Latina/etc. women to date outside their race.

Think about it like this. Beautiful women get sex thrown at them all the time. Thinly veiled offers to be their friend, emotional tampon, shopping buddy, lunch date-guy, etc. They have so much abundance, and chances are, they get hit on by half-decent men of their own race (eg. white men and white girls, black men and black women, Asian men and Asian women) that they don't really need to venture out and date someone outside their race.

But most men will rationalize in their heads when they see X girl with their own race and think "Oh.. she would never go for me because I'm Y and she's X. She only dates X race since she's X."

And then even when Y man goes for X women, maybe he approaches 1 or 2. Or maybe he approaches a handful or more. But since he doesn't get results right away, he further rationalizes to himself that "Man X women are bitches. They're racist/prejudiced/insert other excuse here". When really, he's the one that's failing to understand her reality and fit himself into the type of man she wants.

Yes there are women who will never date you solely based on your race or color of your skin or whatever. So what. There are those types of women everywhere, and they don't even represent the majority of women. They only represent a small percentage. Even the infamous "blonde/bombshell/bottle blonde" whatever you want to call it.

If you come correct, and you keep sharpening your self and do your homework, you can meet the type of girl you want. It might take a lot of tries, but that just comes with the territory. With any type of woman. You don't just magically get an Asian girl because you're Asian right? So what makes you think that it's going to change for any other woman?

Every non-Asian woman I've dated has never dated an Asian before, surprise surprise. She's never had an incentive to do so and it's only because I went out and put myself out there and didn't give a fuck and took a risk that it happened. I've become her precedent.

We're not on their radar. You have to put yourself on her radar.

 

[Tim Iron]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

Race does NOT matter...

 

[Drck]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

I believe, generally speaking, that race matters. A white guy does have SLIGHT advantage over other races, however this can be changed by attitude. It is the same with being taller, taller guys do have advantage over shorter guys. Does it mean that the taker guy always wins? No, who wins is the guy with bigger confidence, won feels more comfortable in his ow skin...

 

[Tim Iron]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

race does NOT matter at all! Height matters.... race does not mattter at all.... i repeat! A white girl would choose an attractive black guy over an unattractive white guy. My friend in London just got his Lithuanian girlfriend pregnant... he is an attractive black guy.... I tell you this being white, black or yellow does NOT score you any point if you are taking the "Lover route".... maybe if you are taking the provider route then maybe race matters.... Chase and Franco have said something like several times.

Women throw race out of the window when the are attracted to you.... 2009 i had a Morrocan girl all over me... even though i am West African BLACK and she is North African ARAB... it didn't matter to her.

If you watch some African and Asian films you would see very attractive guys that white women would drool over anyday and anytime.

I believe, generally speaking, that race matters. A white guy does have SLIGHT advantage over other races, however this can be changed by attitude. It is the same with being taller, taller guys do have advantage over shorter guys. Does it mean that the taker guy always wins? No, who wins is the guy with bigger confidence, won feels more comfortable in his ow skin...

 

[Drck]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

Well, remember Tayo, everything is relative. Of course white girl would chose attractive black guy Iover unattractive white guy, she is not stupid. However, given that everything else is the same - level of attractiveness, education, size, health, social circle and so on, the likelihood that she will chose white guy over different race is higher.

 

[Tim Iron]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

If you want to believe that race matters... carry on.

Well, remember Tayo, everything is relative. Of course white girl would chose attractive black guy Iover unattractive white guy, she is not stupid. However, given that everything else is the same - level of attractiveness, education, size, health, social circle and so on, the likelihood that she will chose white guy over different race is higher.

 

[Drck]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

Well, not everything is a matter of believe, let's look at some statistics. Here is some tables from okcupid, it looks like white males are rated quite favorably:

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race- ... 2009-2014/

For example, white women rating white males in 2009 shows 17% favorability, whereas for black males it is negative (-6%).

Look at year 2014 from "Let's Meet", white women rate white males +19%, whereas black male are rated -16%. I don't know how scientific this data are, but it actually appears as quite significant factor.


Let me know if you find data that say otherwise, but regardless the numbers, it looks pretty clear that race does matter...

 

[Tim Iron]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

It seems the issue is about white women in the U.S and not women as a whole from different countries and different races.

Well, not everything is a matter of believe, let's look at some statistics. Here is some tables from okcupid, it looks like white males are rated quite favorably:

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race- ... 2009-2014/

For example, white women rating white males in 2009 shows 17% favorability, whereas for black males it is negative (-6%).

Look at year 2014 from "Let's Meet", white women rate white males +19%, whereas black male are rated -16%. I don't know how scientific this data are, but it actually appears as quite significant factor.


Let me know if you find data that say otherwise, but regardless the numbers, it looks pretty clear that race does matter...

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

Ah the infamous OkCupid study which makes no sense, apparently Indian girls hate the idea of dating Indian guys more than white girls do. Okaayyyy......

The study itself showed the average of all the races and yes, on average, white men are the best off but we aren't trying to be average here at all. A lot of the lower reply rates for Indian men could have to do with older pervy men in India sending out spam email to women. I think the results would be different for a higher value guy and plus, this is online dating where superficial qualities are further emphasized. You also have to consider that there is an issue with fake accounts on online dating sites. I have seen countless profiles where someone steals the photo of a pornstar or low key model and attempts to pose as such.

One thing I can say with certainty is a high value guy with good fundamentals, of any race, is going to have his options when it comes to women. Location matters a lot more than race though, I think minorities would be wise to stay away from the conservative and backwards parts of the United States like the south.

 

[Tim Iron]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

Most of these guys would always believe that race matters no matter how you try to convince them that it is NOT that important... it is just the way it is with some guys and their mentality. Instead of putting their whole energy in making themselves as attractive as possible, approaching as many pretty ladies as possible and learning "game"... they still see race as an issue.

Ah the infamous OkCupid study which makes no sense, apparently Indian girls hate the idea of dating Indian guys more than white girls do. Okaayyyy......

The study itself showed the average of all the races and yes, on average, white men are the best off but we aren't trying to be average here at all. A lot of the lower reply rates for Indian men could have to do with older pervy men in India sending out spam email to women. I think the results would be different for a higher value guy and plus, this is online dating where superficial qualities are further emphasized. You also have to consider that there is an issue with fake accounts on online dating sites. I have seen countless profiles where someone steals the photo of a pornstar or low key model and attempts to pose as such.

One thing I can say with certainty is a high value guy with good fundamentals, of any race, is going to have his options when it comes to women. Location matters a lot more than race though, I think minorities would be wise to stay away from the conservative and backwards parts of the United States like the south.

 

[Drck]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

I'm simply asking if you guys have any data to support your claim. I'm from Europe, I've been to UK, France, Holland, Austria, Germany, ... and as far as I'm aware most white girls def go with white guys. Everywhere I've been, I've seen predominantly white girls with white guys. Am I wrong? Maybe, I haven been everywhere in the world, but that's just common sense.

Also be careful with interpreting data. "Hate" is rather a strong expression, but when you say "think that white males are more attractive" or "favor white males" it is simply a different story. You don't have to hate other races, you can simply prefer one race to another.

At the same time, note that there is data from different dating sites, not only Okcupid...

 

[Rusty]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

Yes, the majority of men and women will date within their group. That's pretty obvious.

But correlation does not mean causation. Just because you see something, doesn't prove another theory correct.

For a long time, as a young kid, I grew up being surrounded by Asian women, and I was mostly attracted to only Asian girls. Sure, I had classmates of diverse backgrounds and ethnicities, but I was most familiar with and grew up in an Asian cultural bubble and I liked Asian girls (Korean most specifically).

It wasn't until I got to high school that I really started seeing other women in a different light. I became more exposed to them, I got to learn more about their backgrounds, their cultures, their norms. I became more open and I started dating other types of women (My high school at the time was largely Latino/Black, and I dated a handful of Latino/Black women even after high school through college.).

The biggest thing is lack of exposure. We live in a very xenophobic world. We don't know how to deal with the unfamiliar, and that is very true in the dating realm. People will go with the familiar, because we automatically assume shared values based on physical appearances. There's a strong bias towards attributing positive traits to people who are good looking, these types of biases apply to those who look similar to us as well. (Whether it applies in a negative or positive way. For example, in the U.S., communications and sociological studies have shown that African American men responded negatively when they were presented with images of other African American men in hoodies, streetwear, having "thug or punk" appearances. These responses are essentially unconscious, involuntary)

So what happens when a woman meets a type of man who she's never met before, never had real dealings with, has no idea about his culture, etc.? She's going to have a hard time identifying or relating to him, unless he makes the effort to do so, and is able to break down her barriers and show her that he is a man who has value. It's not up to the girl to do that, she has plenty of men throwing themselves at her anyway. What makes you think she'll go out of her way to be empathetic and adventurous in this manner? It would be rare, for sure.

So instead of assuming things about race and making excuses, try to understand that even as men, we have our own biases and prejudices that are rooted in our lack of exposure and understanding, and not because we're simply racist. I'm sure a lot of you have preferences in dating that expose your own biases, but would you consider yourself a racist? Are you "self-racist" or self-hating because you don't date women in your own group, but would rather date another group? Where's the fairness in that?

I ask these questions and provoke this type of discussion in order to bring to the surface the real issues at hand, and so that we don't scapegoat this ideological, social constructionist concept of race as an easy, copout answer to our dilemmas in the matters of dating.

 

[Drck]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

Ah the infamous OkCupid study which makes no sense
>>>> show study/survey that makes sense

apparently Indian girls hate the idea of dating Indian guys more than white girls do.
>>>> Are we really talking about "hate"? Where?

The study itself showed the average of all the races and yes, on average, white men are the best off but we aren't trying to be average here at all. A lot of the lower reply rates for Indian men could have to do with older pervy men in India sending out spam email to women.
>>>> are you implying that other races or cultures don't do that? There are no perverts amongst white, blacks or others?

I think the results would be different for a higher value guy
>>>> What is high value guy? What you perceive as high value guy might be totally different from my perception, from white female perception or black female perception. It is also different in long term dating vs short term.


and plus, this is online dating where superficial qualities are further emphasized.
>>>> same with qualities. What you think is quality may be different, depending on for what the particular person is looking for. Women any race who are seeking to settle down and have childrenmay highly value a provider. From GC point of view, provider rather has a low value....

You also have to consider that there is an issue with fake accounts on online dating sites.
>>>> true, but how do we know to whom these fake accounts belong? It could be anybody, any race...

 

[Drck]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

Reasonable answers Rusty, can't disagree. However note that most people who are dating don't think rationally, as you've just (correctly) described, they probably don't think much about racial issue at all.

They simply see a person and assign some sort of attraction or value to him or her. I am simply claiming that if everything else is equal (height, education, attraction, ...), most girls would go for white guy. I didn't have to look far to support my claim, the posted data is from 25 mil of accounts. White males win pretty much across the table.

Does it mean that only white guys get the girls? Of course not, there are many other factors to consider. What it simply means is that white guys do have SLIGHT advantage over other races, as already stated above...

Do I make any excuses for males that are not white? In no way, every male should simply get over his color, race, height, appearance and fifty other things and work on fundamentals, as correctly stated above...

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Re: Couldn't you actually turn being Asian or Brown guy in the US into an advant

I am going to attempt to reason with Drck for the final time by making my points yet again, maybe this time he gets it.

Are we really talking about "hate"? Where?

1. Stop trying to attack the wrong part of my post and pay attention to the point I was actually trying to make. Quit cherrypicking the words and pay attention to the point of my entire post. Your study showed that Indian men (who I am using as an example here) had higher reply rates with white women and black women than they had with Indian women. Look around in the real world and you will see that a large number of Indian men are either dating or married to Indian women. The study itself, as a result, made no sense whatsoever.

2. Fair enough on your point about perverts but the issue is that with Indian men in India, it is far more prevalent and skews the results. OkCupid is international and a lot of sexually repressed men in India send women these marriage proposals on the first message. Now this is more so based on my experience and not really any statistic which can prove it but it is something to take into account.

3. You know what high value is, quit playing that bullshit game of yours. Good looking, makes a decent amount of money, has game and isn't some thirsty simp, and an interesting lifestyle is high value. This is not a philosophy course, most people can come to a general consensus on what a high value and low value guy is. Racial preferences might exist but there is a big difference between Godfrey Gao and Matthew Moy in the eyes of women of all races.

4. As for the fake accounts part, fair enough, I'll give you that one.

Yes most women will want to marry someone of their own race but they are more than willing to experiment with, sleep around with, and even date guys of other races.

As for your point about Europe, I don't know that much about French women being loyal to white men. I saw quite a few interracial relationships when I went to France where the woman was white and the man was of another race and I have found French girls to be quite easy. Ironically, I have known Black and Hispanic American guys who went to France and had an easier time than the white American guys but that is all personal experience. I am sure there is a statistic that shows interracial marriage rates in France, they will likely be higher than your average European country.

In the UK, I believe Black men with white women are the most common kind of interracial pairing there is.