What would cause a woman in a relationship with a celebrity to release all his info?

[Vision]

No gaslighting here brother.

Look at what you wrote previously:

This is true... "I know plenty of wealthy guys who don't get women at all or who only get gold diggers who leave as soon as money isn't in the equation anymore."

This is true... "I also know guys who are borderline homeless that are very good with women."

What you're trying to argue is that I'm saying homeless men are running around banging chicks... which I never said.

I can only assume you're trolling at this point... nobody is as dumb as you're acting.

Highly doubt that. Since you have so much experience, why don't you upload some photos for proof?

This is clear trolling...

Maybe read a bit about Maslow Hierarchy of needs before assuming homeless people get laid easily LOL. If you are homeless, your priorities are shelter, food and water, not getting laid...

I didn't say that... again, strawman argument. And you're talking about Maslow's hierarchy, which shows me you're smart enough to know better which means that you're intentionally misinterpreting what I'm saying to get me upset... indicating from your username that you're here to piss people off and get them mad so that you can potentially repeat the phrase on your username.

If you want to have a conversation like an adult, let me know. If you want to troll, good luck with that, bro.

 

[whyumad?]

This is clear trolling...

Asking for evidence is now trolling? LOL

This is true... "I also know guys who are borderline homeless that are very good with women."

Sorry, misread the "borderline". How would you define borderline in this case?

I can only assume you're trolling at this point... nobody is as dumb as you're acting.

Questioning your stories on a forum is called dumb?

you're intentionally misinterpreting what I'm saying to get me upset

Relax bro, you are a nobody on a forum just like me and everyone else. Not misinterpreting anything you said but interpreting it literally. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

 

[Vision]

Asking for evidence is now trolling? LOL

You might as well have used the username "Troll1234"

Asking me for photos that homeless people are fucking each other? Yes, that's trolling.

Sorry, misread the "borderline". How would you define borderline in this case?

It means you're broke af.

Questioning your stories on a forum is called dumb?

You didn't question my stories... you said... "This is 100% just a lie." That's not a question, that's a bold statement.

Classic troll tactic, ignore what you don't like and create emotion around a misinterpretation of something someone says, cling onto that, then when they respond to it, focus on the response which completely derails the conversation into something that the person wasn't even talking about.

Relax bro, you are a nobody on a forum just like me and everyone else. Not misinterpreting anything you said but interpreting it literally. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Why you so mad, bro? You're not taking it literally, you're misinterpreting it, attacking the misinterpretation, and then questioning the response off the misinterpretation.

What I'm doing is going meta on the conversation, pulling the emotion out and spotlighting what you're doing with it.

 

[ulrich]

Relax bro, you are a nobody on a forum just like me and everyone else. Not misinterpreting anything you said but interpreting it literally. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Watch your manners, idiot.

@Vision is not a nobody, he is prolific seduction coach for both men and women.
He knows a lot about this and he has proved it once and again.
Respect your elders.

Homeless people fuck a lot and they fuck in the streets… it’s not an uncommon sight.
What do you think they do with all their free time?

But anyway, it’s a straw man argument… Vision was not talking literally.
Don’t be so autistic.

 

[whyumad?]

Asking me for photos that homeless people are fucking each other? Yes, that's trolling.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I don't even think you know what being homeless means...

That's not a question, that's a bold statement.

Questioning doesn't have to be a question... Making an objection to something is also valid lol.

Classic troll tactic, ignore what you don't like and create emotion around a misinterpretation of something someone says, cling onto that, then when they respond to it, focus on the response which completely derails the conversation into something that the person wasn't even talking about.

Nothing I have said is "emotional". The only "misinterpretation" I made was misreading the word "borderline". However, do you genuinely believe legit homeless people are constantly getting laid? I won't object you if you do believe so.

 

[whyumad?]

@Vision is not a nobody, he is prolific seduction coach for both men and women.
He knows a lot about this and he has proved it once and again.
Respect your elders.

"respect your elders" lol jesus man.

My first post on this forum was asking for video receipts of Chase Amante (the founder of this site) doing cold approaches. Nobody replied and I could never find any infields of him. I was planning to purchase One Date but obviously didn't without seeing anything.

What do you think they do with all their free time?

Finding shelter, water, money and food. Maybe finding some stability so that they are in control of their situation/environment.

Don’t be so autistic.

Look man I know you are a lapdog for your elders. But there are a lot of questionable/scammy people in the PUA space and this has led to cancel culture/doxxing of prominent PUAs. Just doing my due diligence and questioning some extraordinary claims by your "elders".

 

[Vision]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I don't even think you know what being homeless means...

Enlighten me, what does it mean to be homeless? I'm not sure I understand that word.

Questioning doesn't have to be a question... Making an objection to something is also valid lol.

You're not making an objection, you're making a declaration... you came into a pickup forum, said that what I said is a lie, and said that the mythical pickup deems things as black and white. There's no question there... there's a statement... a declaration... it's very simple English linguistics.

It's either you're intentionally misinterpreting, which would be trolling... or you're accidentally misinterpreting, which is a form of confirmation bias.

Nothing I have said is "emotional". The only "misinterpretation" I made was misreading the word "borderline". However, do you genuinely believe legit homeless people are constantly getting laid? I won't object you if you do believe so.

How about we actually talk about the point that I was making, which is that you don't need to be rich in order to get women... there are lots of men who get women who aren't rich/celebrity status.

If you agree with that then we're literally arguing over nonsense. The point of my post isn't to make you believe that homeless people are in an underground society of pussy getting players... but to point to the fact that celebrity status isn't the only thing that women are attracted to.

 

[whyumad?]

How about we actually talk about the point that I was making, which is that you don't need to be rich in order to get women... there are lots of men who get women who aren't rich/celebrity status.

If you agree with that then we're literally arguing over nonsense. The point of my post isn't to make you believe that homeless people are in an underground society of pussy getting players... but to point to the fact that celebrity status isn't the only thing that women are attracted to.

This I wholeheartedly agree with. Just wanted to make the clear distinction regarding homeless people...

 

[ulrich]

Finding shelter, water, money and food. Maybe finding some stability so that they are in control of their situation/environment.

Sure, because thinking that way got them there in the first place, right?

Maaaaaaybe just maaaaaybe, these people are not doing that most of the time which is the reason why they are homeless to begin with.

(I’m being sarcastic, I feel you need a disclaimer for that)

Look man I know you are a lapdog for your elders. But there are a lot of questionable/scammy people in the PUA space and this has led to cancel culture/doxxing of prominent PUAs. Just doing my due diligence and questioning some extraordinary claims by your "elders".

… in a totally uncalibrated autistic way, I may add.

Discussing definitions is a clear sign that you don’t have any stronger argument. That’s rethoric 101.
Discussing a definition is basically a Hail Mary.

 

[whyumad?]

Sure, because thinking that way got them there in the first place, right?

Lots of factors that can cause homelessness... E.g family breakdown, mental illness, sexual assault etc.

 

[whyumad?]

Discussing definitions is a clear sign that you don’t have any stronger argument. That’s rethoric 101.

There is no discussion regarding the definition of homeless...

 

[ulrich]

Lots of factors that can cause homelessness... E.g family breakdown, mental illness, sexual assault etc.

 

[Starboy]

My first post on this forum was asking for video receipts of Chase Amante (the founder of this site) doing cold approaches. Nobody replied and I could never find any infields of him. I was planning to purchase One Date but obviously didn't without seeing anything.

Chase is not a infield guy. Not his style of marketing or anyone in this site. But they've written extensively in great detail about their experiences picking up women and female psychology. The kind of detail that is really hard to make up. If you're skeptical about buying this i'm pretty certain one date has a 60 day money back guarantee. If you don't want to keep the course or don't like it you can reach out customer support I have contacted them before regarding charges they're pretty good.

 

[Chase]

@whyumad?, this forum is not a place for assuaging your cognitive dissonance by arguing that senior members are wrong, delusional, or lying.

It is a place where inexperienced individuals, such as yourself, can come and discuss their progress using the advice and materials, and have the privilege to access senior members for assistance refining their approach to better get results.

You can accept that, and be grateful this place exists, and use it as intended. Or you can argue that everyone here other than you is making everything up and spending gobs of their free time weaving a bunch of lies to fool the 100 people a day who come to this forum, most of whom also don't spend money on anything.

One of those things is conducive to continuing to be on here. One of them isn't.

Chase

 

[whyumad?]

Chase is not a infield guy. Not his style of marketing or anyone in this site. But they've written extensively in great detail about their experiences picking up women and female psychology. The kind of detail that is really hard to make up. If you're skeptical about buying this i'm pretty certain one date has a 60 day money back guarantee. If you don't want to keep the course or don't like it you can reach out customer support I have contacted them before regarding charges they're pretty good.

Cheers thanks for the info

 

[whyumad?]

@whyumad?, this forum is not a place for assuaging your cognitive dissonance by arguing that senior members are wrong, delusional, or lying.

It is a place where inexperienced individuals, such as yourself, can come and discuss their progress using the advice and materials, and have the privilege to access senior members for assistance refining their approach to better get results.

You can accept that, and be grateful this place exists, and use it as intended. Or you can argue that everyone here other than you is making everything up and spending gobs of their free time weaving a bunch of lies to fool the 100 people a day who come to this forum, most of whom also don't spend money on anything.

One of those things is conducive to continuing to be on here. One of them isn't.

Chase

Why are you assuming I am inexperienced? I never disagreed that you can't get girls if you have no money/status. What I did argue is that homeless people are not getting laid left and right and have other important life priorities...

Never said everyone here is making stuff up, just wanted to clarify the point that Vision made...

 

[Chase]

@whyumad?,

Generally when you see sweeping generalizations mixed with accusations levied at senior members, that is coming from guys who think what they're hearing is a bunch of BS, and generally when a guy thinks what he is hearing is a bunch of BS he is inexperienced.

When a man's experienced with women he discovers women are enormously flexible and the sweeping generalizations you hear about them from inexperienced men are pretty much invariably wrong.

What I did argue is that homeless people are not getting laid left and right and have other important life priorities...

Never said everyone here is making stuff up, just wanted to clarify the point that Vision made...

All right, well that's not how I read it, nor I think how anyone else did:

This is 100% just a lie. Why does pickup always result in black and white thinking? "the homeless guy with nothing in life gets the hottest bitches while the guy that is rich, handsome etc gets no bitches at all" LOL.

Homeless people are not thinking about getting their dick wet lol, their first priority is water, food and shelter...

It looks like you read @Vision's post as claiming every filthy crazy homeless guy who smells like piss and rants at passersby is sleeping with fashion models.

He's talking about charming guys who don't have money because they don't care about money, or are so obsessed with being poon hounds that they make getting pussy front and center in their lives, over and above career/finances. I have known multiple guys like this. One was on our forum here, working at the airport as a luggage handler, sleeping in his car because he didn't have a home, shagging 2-3 girls a month from dive bars. Some of them were pretty cute; I saw the pics. I met him in Colorado, he's a real person. Another I knew in San Diego was a broke drug dealer who constantly mooched off people; he'd pick up women just to have a place to stay and would leave his belongings in the homes of the women he was banging until they tired of his mooching and kicked him out. Then he'd move to the next girl (or when all his girls kicked him out at once he'd mooch off his male friends). He toured his way across Europe without money by just picking women up and staying at their places.

Because these guys are so focused on women they do better with them than almost any guy you will find who has his life together. The guy who sits in an office all day building his 7-figure business doesn't do nearly as well with women as one of these guys does. I had a handful of 7- and 8-figure coaching clients last year... all were all cool, normal guys with plenty of money and all three guys were struggling to figure out how to get girls.

That's not to say a guy ought to drop everything and become a bum who does nothing all day but chase tail... I don't think that's ideal, and also the ones I've known have had major retention problems; just because they can shag the girl doesn't mean she wants a relationship with them. As soon as the hormones wear off and she gets some of her sense back she starts asking what future she can have with a guy like this, at which point the relationship's pretty much doomed. But generally in life whatever you focus on and prioritize is what you're going to get, whether that be women or money or anything else.

Chase

 

[whyumad?]

He's talking about charming guys who don't have money because they don't care about money, or are so obsessed with being poon hounds that they make getting pussy front and center in their lives, over and above career/finances. I have known multiple guys like this. One was on our forum here, working at the airport as a luggage handler, sleeping in his car because he didn't have a home, shagging 2-3 girls a month from dive bars. Some of them were pretty cute; I saw the pics. I met him in Colorado, he's a real person. Another I knew in San Diego was a broke drug dealer who constantly mooched off people; he'd pick up women just to have a place to stay and would leave his belongings in the homes of the women he was banging until they tired of his mooching and kicked him out. Then he'd move to the next girl (or when all his girls kicked him out at once he'd mooch off his male friends). He toured his way across Europe without money by just picking women up and staying at their places.

I am not too sure if those guys are your definition of homeless. But the definition from Google is simply: "(of a person) without a home, and therefore typically living on the streets." So I am assuming when you say "homeless" people, you are literally talking about people living on the streets. Your luggage friend has a job and a car at least. The drug dealer one I am not too surprised, the value of drugs for certain women is very valuable. Also, the fact that your drug dealer can can acquire some drugs indicates that he has connections and can provide value.

To further add on, when I assume someone is homeless, I assume they are starting from 0 with nothing at all. No car, no job, living on the streets, no connections etc. Maybe this is the wrong definition but we are getting too into the weeds.

Because these guys are so focused on women they do better with them than almost any guy you will find who has his life together. The guy who sits in an office all day building his 7-figure business doesn't do nearly as well with women as one of these guys does. I had a handful of 7- and 8-figure coaching clients last year... all were all cool, normal guys with plenty of money and all three guys were struggling to figure out how to get girls.

I agree with this. Pickup, like everything in life, is a skill and the more time you spend the better you get.

It looks like you read @Vision's post as claiming every filthy crazy homeless guy who smells like piss and rants at passersby is sleeping with fashion models.

Well yeah exactly, that is the point I was trying to argue. Obviously not sleeping with fashion models but getting laid left and right...

 

[trashKENNUT]

What I did argue is that homeless people are not getting laid left and right and have other important life priorities...

Well yeah exactly, that is the point I was trying to argue. Obviously not sleeping with fashion models but getting laid left and right...

If you want to troll, you need to make sure that you know what you are trying to do.

i quoted 2 of your post here.

You want to help clear things up?

z@c+

 

[Zoro]

The drug dealer one I am not too surprised, the value of drugs for certain women is very valuable. Also, the fact that your drug dealer can can acquire some drugs indicates that he has connections and can provide value.

This is a very masculine way to view a drug dealer’s value haha

A girl who dates a drug dealer, does it because he’s exciting, makes her FEEL, he’s got serious edge.