Teevs said the same thing 'i'm not saying you can get all reds'.
So maybe the ones that can't be converted are the ACTUAL 'reds'. (thus reds can't be converted)
I do not see where you want to go with this.
Because following that logic, any girl who you haven't fucked could be labelled red.
But clearly, many of those who you have not had sex with could have been girls you could have fucked.
Ask yourself:
* How can you tell actual " reds apart from girls your simply did not manage to have sex with?
* Why would want to spend time telling them apart? Firstly I do not see how this can be done successfully from an epistemological perspective (i.e. can you actually acquire enough knowledge to tell them apart? - I think not),
* Secondly, I do not see why you would like to have such a model - I mean from a practical point of view, why would you need a model to "catch" outliers - i.e. the little percentage of women who cannot be converted, because she hates you pre-opening. Again, those women who genuinely hate men, or hate you for no reason are generally RARE - as in SUPER RARE.
I said that you cannot get all reds , because you simply cannot get every girl out there. Just like you can't even get all the greens either.
Other factors plays in as well. We need to stop having this oversimplified one dimensional view which is based on attraction being the only, or the most important aspect in defining whether or not a women would like to have sex with you. Logistics, her values and beliefs, and her mood plays a major factor as well.
So for these reasons, you also cannot get every green out there. This does not make some greens any more or less green than the other - they all were attracted to you equally much, but they had different logistics, different moods and different beliefs around sex.
Mood, personality and logical factors will depend, but they make some greens more green than others - it does not help you define who is an actual green - that is, again if you look at the trafic light system as as a system based on attraction purely (which is what we are doing here). If the reasons for why you could not pull that green is because she just had a surgery in her pussy (extreme logistical hoop), does not make her any less green - from an attraction point of view. She will probably be harder to pull than most yellows and even reds.
The bottom line is, there is no way to tell which reds you will be able to pull, and which you will not . Same goes for greens. You simply do not know.
This is because more is at play than just mere attraction.
A red with amazing logistics, sexual liberated views and all that will be easier to pull than a green who loves you with all her heart, who lives in a different country, has a flight in 3 hours, and happen to be super stuck up with her sexual beliefs, and happen surrounded by 5 males and 4 females, where even some of them happen to be annoying people.-
The red one will be easier to pull.
There is a common bias associated with men's assessment of how difficult a girl is. The mistake they do is that they base their assessment primarily, if not purely on her level of initial attraction. But then they forget that her personality, her beliefs and the context also plays a major role. Her level of initial attraction is just an initial pointer - that's it - just one of many pointers.
The other factors that determines how difficult she is to pull, can only be assessed as you are getting further into the interaction.
The point I presented should not be taken out of context and I suggest people rereading my OP (people still forget the points I mentioned in the OP). I basically mentioned that attraction is just one of many factors that can lead to your success. Now sure, if a girl is simply not attracted to you, and have shitty logistics and have stuck up views, things will be VERY hard - but technically doable (have good logistics yourself, and hijack her view around sexuality). But if the logistics are so bad (you can deliver good game) that you cannot do that, and your game happen to not be on fire (you are not able to deliver good game), you will not get her.
In other words your success is also not only depending on her - on whether she is green or red,
but ALSO on you and the context. And if it is all only depending on her, you have no way of telling for sure whether it is because she simply does not like you, or just happen to be in a bad mood.
Again, if a girl does not like you, it is not the end of the world. It means she is indifferent. Now the small % of girls who happen to hate you for no reason is rare. And I fail to see why guy like you so badly wants to have a model to define the VERY few girls who you can just never get, instead of focusing on the majority which you could get, all things being equal.
I also think , even if girls are willing to hear you out etc, she could still be a red with zero attraction towards you, and despite running game with negs and teases and cold reads and sex talk etc etc, she'll never allow you to escalate due to lack of attraction. Certainly happened to me many times lol
Why would she not?
Again, attraction is just one of many factors. One of the things I tried to convey in my OP, which sadly many have disregarded (maybe because I was not emphasizing it enough, or maybe I was just unclear), is that attraction is just aspect - an in my book not one that is arbitrary.
Best,
