Passion Lab

[foggy]

hi kristian

do you still cold approach or do you find the girls on Tinder/Bumble?

all the girls im fucking lately are from online

i haven’t given up cold approach. I just exclusively approach in the spring/summer months. so you can expect me to continue daygaming once the warmer weather rolls around

Is there any drawback not cold approaching (like not reading signs face to face or working on fundamentals/vibe on the streets?).

yeah there are some skills that are sharpened through cold approach that you can’t develop when you’re doing online game. subcommunications for example.

despite not cold approaching lately, other aspects of my game like my fundamentals and awareness of signals are excellent. I continue to work on them in my daily social interactions.

The reason I am asking is that I find online dating/apps just about hooking up, making them less challenging than street cold approach for hooking up.

online game is less of a challenge than cold approach - i agree

although i will be rusty when i start daygame again, im happy i focused on online game for a good while. the time and energy i put into getting good at skills like texting was worth it. they are directly transferable to daygame

 

[foggy]

LR: First Time 69ing

met this trinidadian girl on tinder & she agreed to come over to my house.

as I’m standing outside waiting for her, she walks up to me and gives me a hug. She reeks of submissiveness.

becky: i’m having the worst day!

She assumes rapport very heavily and starts telling me about how shitty she’s feeling because of some crazy drama that’s been happening to her the past few days. Looks like all the signs are good.

I lead her into my house and into my room. I encourage her to take off her coat and sit on the bed with me. She does and continues to explain about her bad day.

Conversation turns more neutral after i kiss her neck. But then she accuses me of agreeing with everything shes saying. subtext: youre agreeing with everything I’m saying just to get in my pants!... i deny it, but make a note to keep an eye on my behaviour and introduce a hint of disagreeableness into the conversation shortly after.

I’m escalating very quickly but she keeps stopping me gently. It’s moving too quick for her and she just isn’t ready yet.

Minutes later however, we’re naked

In between rounds she started to test me. She was being physically aggressive towards me. One of the things she did was, she put her hand around my neck several times, as if to choke me. I could not allow it. One of the times she did this, I took her hand off me and shoved her face very hard into my bed. She made some sort of squeak. Then she looked at me with a glowing, turned on face. For the rest of the time she was a total kitten.

To finish things off we 69ed. it was so sick cuz i actually came for once

 

[foggy]

Becky's Conversion

beckys been over a few more times. shes become attached. i feel nothing.

ive figured out her pussy and gained some insights into how to be a better lover

…

i have not been posting my lessons & learnings in my public journal lately. that will be changing because i have been improving in leaps and bounds and i want to share this crazy transformation im experiencing with the world.

 

[foggy]

LR: Persisted for 4 Months

i met an indian girl named purple on badoo. she was very flirty and qualified to me heavily.

ive always wanted to bang an indian

we made plans to hang that thursday. but she flaked. after that we actively continued to make plans. but she’d always flake last minute. for 4… months….straight.

the excuses were 96% family oriented. she lives with her parents and they’re very strict. so a lot of the times her parents wouldn’t let her go out. or family related events would pop up that took precedence over hanging out with some guy from the internet. one time we were supposed to chill and her parents got in a car accident. it didnt help that she lived 30km away.

it was all very frustrating to me. but i knew her excuses were legit because she’d qualify herself to me whenever prompted. and she would express a lot of frustration herself.

i wasnt putting in a lot of conversational effort to begin with but after a while i texted her less and less. i knew that as the months wore on i would inevitably end up making a mistake and killing attraction. i started texting her just to make plans. predictably, she complained saying she should talk more

finally (perhaps the planets aligned or it was sheer luck), we actually managed to get together yesterday.

i met her on the street outside my place and it was on right away

i brought her into my room and within 10 minutes we were all over each other

my dick was acting all wonky though. i started feeling some pressure and psyched myself out. my mind was racing. i had talked to this girl for 4 months, only to be unable to fuck her when the chance came around? i would always regret this!

good news though. i coaxed myself into relaxing. then i got it up and fucked her rawwwwww

 

[foggy]

LR-: Tiny Asian Chick

she messaged me first on tinder with a smiley today - it was smooth sailing from there

she came over to my place

we walked into my room and sat on my bed. she seemed sort of uncomfortable, but did not resist when i started kissing her neck less than 2 minutes later

took her pants off, then i ate her out and fingered her really, really good

but i couldnt get it up. she left disappointed

man what is wrong with me.........

on the flip side (need to give myself at least some credit) im turning into a savage. im moving quicker than ever and not letting stuff like my perception of a girls' vibe get in the way of that. lost a few girls to that before but never again

 

[Hue]

fog,

Could you share some of the texts to getting girls straight to your house? That's a roadblock I've ran into because girls don't want to head straight to some strangers' place. There's a lot of unknowns in doing so, and I don't really blame them, so I'd love to see how you cut through this.


Hue

 

[foggy]

Could you share some of the texts to getting girls straight to your house? That's a roadblock I've ran into because girls don't want to head straight to some strangers' place. There's a lot of unknowns in doing so, and I don't really blame them, so I'd love to see how you cut through this.

thats a problem i used to struggle with too hue

its not just about the texts - its about the way you behave & the type of girl you're dealing with

theres two types of girls looking for sex online:

Type 1: down to come straight to your place
Type 2: wants to meet in public and get to know you a little bit first before getting down to business

my favourite line to open with is, “what are you looking for?” This is a common question used online by fuckboys - girls know my intentions when i ask it

once ive identified that they are looking for sex, i start screening for their sexual preferences. i dont bother building a connection and treat it like it’s a transaction

this behaviour suggests to the girl that im looking for a quick hookup and it effectively screens out type 2. ive found that as soon as i start probing into their sexual preferences, they deflect & let me know they want to meet in public first

what im left with is type 1 and i can confidently say, "my place or yours?"

 

[Hue]

fog,

Thanks man, makes sense. I've been going for openers that qualify or build intrigue - I wonder if I make a focus to really improve my pictures (they're not that good, I don't think. I do not take photogenic pictures) then that will change how girls respond to my openers.

Will still give this a shot though.


Also, on the ED thing, check out a recent GC podcast.

https://soundcloud.com/girlschase/25-shari-james-treating-erectile-dysfunction

I've struggled with this before. I think diet is HUGE, and you gotta eat clean (but if I remember correctly you're vegan right?).

Meditation has given me erections before (like shari mentions), which if I had to drop a personal opinion on why that's the case I would think is that it clears your background brain processes to do their thing if they've been blocked out for whatever reason.. but that's just my personal spirituality meets neuroscience explanation. Just know that it's legit...

Exercise boosts testosterone and clears your system out to promote good blood flow.

I also avoid masturbation like the devil, and only do it if I haven't had sex that week on Sunday (tip from Alek).

Other than that I think the biggest boner killer is worrying about not being able to get up. Meditation helps with this alot to stay in the present and know how to focus yourself into the present when you catch yourself not being there.

 

[foggy]

I wonder if I make a focus to really improve my pictures (they're not that good, I don't think. I do not take photogenic pictures) then that will change how girls respond to my openers.

improving your pictures is a good idea. on top of picture 'quality' id suggest keeping in mind the overall vibe that your pictures are portraying. that can play a huge part in how they respond too.

Also, on the ED thing, check out a recent GC podcast.

thanks for sharing that man, i was surprised and relieved to hear that a lot of guys out there in their 20s struggle with this

im not vegan anymore and theres currently room for improvement in my diet. im at the gym 4-5 days a week but dont do much cardio. i wonder if throwing some cardio in there would help? meditation used to be a daily habit, but not anymore. ill start making some changes and see if i notice a difference.

ive also decided im quitting porn for good. i noticed its causing a vicious cycle for me. ill be getting girls and wont be interested in porn. then i lose interest in girls for a few months and relapse on porn. then ill get interested in girls again. but because my dicks hooked on porn, i have trouble getting it up till i retrain my dick

hope youre having fun on your vacation, i have a weird feeling you'll come back with 7 new kills

 

[Sub-Zero]

@fog

Had some questions because I started online game as well recently.

1. How do you know a girl you invite the first night over won't be some crazy chick? How do you screen she won't do some crazy shit to you in your crib?

2. How would you go about going to the girls house whether with a date or without one? I'm working on my own place, so that's really my only option right now.

3. What's your whole text game like from the app to the meet up? Like how long do you usually text from the app and on the phone to the meet?

I always want to move fast and ask quickly, but heard it was good to wait a few messages, but I like to get the number quick.

4. Dealing with girls who aren't trying to make it easy, but give you compliance? Dealing with a girl right now who doesn't really get to know me, when I talk to her and ask her questions and for her number she replies fast, so I think I can work something out, but I still feel that I need to build rapport for the lay or the date.

It's like she's not giving much to work with, but she replies fast, I asked her something else and she ignored it, but gave the number already and I left it alone, so it's weird with that one.

What's the solution sound like to you?

What's the best method for getting to know girls and to make them comfortable in general?

Thanks man.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Also what are all the apps you recommend? Never heard much about badoo.

 

[foggy]

LR-: erratic old lady

this 33 year old woman messaged me first on hinge. i took a different angle than usual and was way less sexually direct. however i did an excellent job of building up some initial intrigue and curiosity from her.

eventually i demanded that she hang out with me. then some real interesting conversation happened and things got sexual real fast:

fog: i want you to hang out with me sometime
pokie: i have to hang out with you?
pokie: you should be thinking “gosh i wanna hang out with HER”
fog: lets put it this way. i want US to hang out so we can get to know each other better
pokie: thats so boring
fog: 100% the most boring thing on the planet
pokie: dating is the worst. i dont want to do it. right now i wanna get stoned and fucked but the guys I’m “dating” are playing these chase games and I’m gonna just go to bed disappointed again.
fog: lmfao then its a good thing i wasnt looking to get to know u on a date ;p
pokie: so how are we supposed to get to know each other
fog: we can get to know each others bodies
pokie: yeah but i dont want to know your body
fog: you dont have to know my body silly all you have to know is how mine is making YOU feel
pokie: ahh
fog: i have free time tonight
pokie: do you actually or do you just have time if I’m open
fog: yes i have free time tonight lmfao i dont work until 10am tomorrow. my place or yours?
pokie: i havent agreed yet. giving one more dater a chance if he mans up
pokie: if not mine
fog: alright i am not waiting all night so let me know soon
pokie: im not either
pokie: you have weed? i dont
fog: ya
fog: whats your address?
pokie: if you can make other plans do that
pokie: sorry my dear
pokie: this weekend though? I’m around

so she bailed on me for that night but we continued our conversation. she started screening me and was acting erratic and unpredictable...insisting on being called taniqua (even though it wasnt her real name)...messaging me like 10 times in a row. example:

pokie: where do you work
fog: i do marketing at X
pokie: nooo
pokie: like
pokie: location
pokie: I DONT WANT TO GET TO KNOW YOU
pokie: PFT

later in person i find out she has borderline personality disorder. explains a lot.

anyways, we made plans for saturday morning. the day rolls around and i take the trek to her place. shes lovely - probably the hottest girl ive hooked up with. she was really flexible and knew how to move too

but the most i could do was finger her and eat her out. i couldnt get it up. she was frustrated. it kills me just thinking about it. this is a stain on my life

 

[foggy]

Online Game Improvements

I’ve been working on new tactics to get girls over to my place because I'm interested in improving quantity. Online I have identified several "types" of DTF girls. Unfortunately I am only able to succeed with one type. It always blows up with the other types. For example, I have run across girls who want to sext with me. I am very wary of girls wasting my time so I refuse to sext, or end up ruining the vibe, causing the girl to ghost. However, I have seen people who are really good at online game succeed with sexting. So, I am working outside my existing routine sometimes. I understand time will pass before I start succeeding with all the types (very impatient). but just succeeding with one new type will get me 2-3 new lays per month.

im also tweaking my existing routine. i have been using open loops to get buy in to set the sexual frame. also, instead of screening for their sexual preferences after setting the sexual frame, I offer them a booty massage. It seems to be working just as well as the screening. Too soon to tell if it's better.

I plan to experiment with huge frame changes. For example, what will happen when I set a sexual frame in the first part of the conversation, then do a 180 over to a relationship frame? Or the opposite? What will be the reaction of the girls? I know that this would likely not be too effective at all, but it would help me deepen my understanding of things.

One notable pattern: girls get an emotional spike when we’re making plans.

Attainability Understandings

- i know that when a girl is trying to make me jealous by bringing up other guys, its a sign of an attainability issue

- When i have low attainability with a girl, she will be looking for reasons to reaffirm her belief that i am not actually interested in her. So it’s important to not give her reasons to reaffirm that belief.

- (not necessarily attainability related) Sometimes I feel pressured to act a certain way around people. And that’s exhausting. It makes me not want to hang out with that person. I bet that girls feel pressured to act a certain way around me too, if i set the wrong precedent. So I think it’s ultra important to ask girls to come as they are around me and not judge them for whoever they want to be. This could help with expressing their sexual selves too.

Daygame

i have started daygaming again. Finally got over the initial approach anxiety. My overarching goals for this round will be to go for insta-dates, insta-lays, and to sexualize every single one of my interactions.

Allowing Girls To Express Their Attraction?

had a girl over the other week. i was extremely aggressive with her, but she gave me massive resistance and it ended up becoming a test storm derived from low attainability. i was able to keep her in a submissive state for an extended period of time, which is the first time ive been able to do so with any girl. she was whining that she really wanted to go to the park with me. i kept saying no and trying to make a move on her. after repeated failed persistence, i eased off and took her to the park. she bought me a coffee and kissed me on the cheek. i do have a habit of "smothering” girls, and when i ease off they start expressing their attraction for me.

we have made plans to hang out again.

Punishing Girls

i am quick to punish girls when they do something i dont like. for example, if they generate negative compliance with me, i will give them a wishy-washy vocal tone. if they are mean to me, or tease me too hard, i will withdraw my attention. to them, this shows that i have lost some attraction for them.

not displaying this behaviour shows i am chasing the girl.

 

[foggy]

LR: her screams did not sound indian

we had made plans for her to come over friday night for a “booty massage.” but friday rolls around and shes MIA.

the next day i follow up with her to reschedule. she answers right away and says shes able to come over after midnight. which is way past my bedtime. but i dont care.

i meet her on the street and immediately hear an accent. turns out shes indian. im surprised. from her tinder pics, i would have guessed she was some white chick.

we go into my room. she gives me bedroom eyes and exposes her neck to me pretty quickly. we start making out and the good news is that I’m not experiencing problems getting it up

we get our pants off quickly and get straight into fucking without even taking any other clothing off. initially, the sex is pretty shitty. i get discouraged and start fingering her.

however after that, i fuck her in adapted missionary and some magic starts to happen. she climaxes a few times, just as hard as she did when i fingered her. all disappointment in the air is gone. overall this is a first, prior to this girls were never climaxing when i fucked them. and if they did it was pretty weak.

anyways, this girl is ridiculously loud and the noises are unexplainable. shes whimpering, whining, screaming, and moaning all at the same time. these sounds do not have an indian accent to them. my roommates and her friends come home in the middle of this and im worried they think someone is getting murdered in my room.

afterwards, we're cuddling and she says this:

girl: im drained. how did you do all that? no ones ever done that to me before!

she stays the night. we fuck a bit the next morning and then she leaves. im so exhausted that i have to flake on 2 other different girls that had agreed to come over to my place that day. sucks, i was hoping for a triple play

 

[foggy]

LR: third times a charm

this girl was from hinge. she said she wasnt looking for anything specific so i offered her a booty massage. she thought it sounded interesting.

the massage offer is doing well online lately

the first time we were supposed to chill, she flaked on me because she got called into work.

the second time we were supposed to chill, i flaked on her. we had made plans for her to come to my place for 6pm. i fell asleep at 4pm cuz i was so tired from fucking the girl in my last LR the night before. she texted me to let me know she was on her way, but i was still sleeping so i didnt respond. she showed up anyways and waited around outside for a bit before heading home. dont know why she would leave if i didnt respond when she said she was on her way.

we started making plans a third time, but she randomly didn’t reply to one of my texts. so i sent one of my usual re-engagement texts to her. she answered:

girl: oh fuck sorry i forgot to reply

i noticed girls behave like this and always send this exact same text (in reply to my re-engagement text) when my value has dropped in some way. i was a little worried about what would happen, but handled it right and we ended up getting together.

i went over to her place. she was a pretty aggressive kisser, i took that as a sign that she wanted me to be really rough with her, which i was. i was biting her and grabbing her to the point where she told me to calm it down a little bit cuz i was hurting her lol

we were on this awkwardly shaped couch then moved to her bed. i had a hard time getting it up at first, but eventually my dick figured it out and she let me fuck her raw. i gotta stop messing around like this. it wasnt even worth it because the sex was…not so good

im stuck at this plateau with getting better with sex, its driving me crazy. probably time to do extensive research and ask some people some questions

 

[Sub-Zero]

@fog

What's your reengagement text?

What would you recommend to get a girl out that flaked on you for a dumb reason?

Chick gave me such a dumb reason and had to just take some time off to focus on other women and things.

Seems like these online chicks flake sometimes.

Learning how to handle this will help with all these chicks because they do dumb shit.

 

[foggy]

hey sub, i use several depending on the situation: "?" "weeeeelll?" or "do you have any felonies i should know about?" .. still experimenting though

flaking is really common in online game. its a pain i know but you gotta get used to it

i read your field report in the general forum and you didnt describe the situation in a way that would allow me to give you some half decent help. if you wanna pm me the convo and a more detailed overview of the situation id be more than happy to help you out.

besides that, id recommend following up on flakes by text or phone call (depends on how well you know her) within 24 hours to reschedule. in other instances, there might be some hidden objections that you need to uncover and solve for the girl before you can get her out.

for example there was this one girl recently who was very receptive to coming over, but she randomly disappeared. i was quite aggressive with my follow up and eventually teased out an objection: she lives with strict parents and doesnt like to have to lie to them about where she is, especially if she's doing something they dont approve of. i wouldnt have found that out if i didnt probe. she probably didnt want to have to explain that to a random internet stranger lol, it was easier to just cut contact. gave me a bit of insight into flakey behavior

 

[foggy]

LR: Period Sex

it was a rocky start. when i asked her what she was looking for, she accused me of being a psycho. she was very grumpy and bitchy with me, putting me down and stuff. mixed in there were a few objections, like the fact she thinks she's too sexually inexperienced for me.
i rolled through it and eventually told her i did not appreciate the way she was treating me. she did a huge turnaround and started asking if she could make it up to me, then listed all the things she has to offer me in terms of sex.

we made plans to hang, but she's a pretty busy person so i gave her my #. my plan was to text her every so often to keep her warm till her schedule freed up. heres some of the conversation:

may 3

girl: Where did you live before?
fog: ive lived in many different places
girl: Why are you sticking your tongue out? Lmao. It literally sounds like a sexual innuendo because of it *laughing emoji*.

may 4

girl: Did you forget about me? ;P
fog: i usually dont forget about bad little girls with dirty minds who think everything is a sexual innuendo
girl: I don't know man, some guys could care less
fog: dont feel uncertain, nothing has changed between us sometimes i can be a bad texter, but u will have my full attention when ur in my arms
girl: Who said I'd be in your arms?
fog: actually youre right. youll need to say all the right things and have a bit of luck on your side to even entice me to go within 2 meters of u ;p
girl: Ahaha I think you're mistaken. I'm irresistible .

may 5

fog: soo what ur saying is that guys have a hard time keeping their hands off u? *smirking face*
girl: Well....maybe I'm getting ahead of myself since it's subjective ;P
fog: wise words. i guess we will just have to wait and see wont we?
girl: Mhmm
girl: Since it'll depend on various factors...I guess you'll have to like me too, which wasn't off to a good start since you misunderstood me *laughing face"
girl: Also, I think I should mention a few disclaimers so you don't hate me. I have a resting bitch face. I don't hate you. It's just the way I look. I also have a bitchy voice and tend to roll my eyes. That's just who I am .

it was a easy conversation to navigate.

anyways we were supposed to chill last weekend but i flaked on her with little explanation. she got really mad at me, especially cuz i waited 24 hours to apologize. she accused me of apologizing only because i wanted to fuck her. it was true but i didnt admit it. thankfully i turned it around and then told her id take her for ice cream in public to make it up to her

after this we stayed in touch for another week. i was naturally disinterested. this showed up in my slower than usual texting frequency, causing her to start chasing me again. when i didnt text back within a few days she would always reinitiate contact. eventually she brought it up saying the natural conclusion whenever i didnt text back was that i lost interest. as an experiment i told her that i was trying hard not to get too attached to her. what a hoot.

we made plans for friday. she said she was on her period, and that we should go for drinks. i told her we should reschedule for when she's off her period. she was ok with that. but then i thought .. naaah might as well get it over with, and get her to suck my dick or something. because i really did not feel like putting in the effort to keep her warm for another week. i wasnt expecting her to want to fuck on her period because of her stated inexperience.

so i told her to come over for some movies, drinks, weed and a massage. she was interested, but when we started solidifying our plans she ignored it and started trying to build rapport with me. this was unusual behavior from her. i just stopped replying because i was annoyed, but should have known there was an objection i needed to flesh out.

she eventually texted me stating she was scared to come over. this was an extremely common objection from her over the course of our whole interaction. she was worried i was a serial killer and said a guy violated her one time. i always handled this objection properly.

anyways she came over and immediately started making sexual comments. she was also very nervous and compliant. all good signs.

ill skip to the good part now.

she was ok with me fucking her on her period. i was surprised that this inexperienced girl would be open to stuff like this. girls blow my mind sometimes. this was my first time having period sex and i think it was her first time too. it wasnt bad except for the part where my bedsheets became stained with blood. also somehow blood ended up on her stomach and i accidentally licked it off lmfao

the sex in general was pretty good. but every time i would get her close to climaxing, she would start gyrating her hips in a weird way and I would slip out. this always ruined the moment, it got frustrating for us. she blamed it on her period.

she said she was thinking about us fucking for a while. the thought first came to her head when i suggested we meet. she also said she lost her virginity 7 months ago

 

[foggy]

LR-: "let me blow you, little bitch!"

she wanted someone to go to techno parties with and fuck. i flipped it around so that there would be no techno parties and only fucking.

her work schedule was awfully weird, leading to her messaging me randomly right after she got off a 12 hour shift at 1pm last saturday. she said she wanted to come over right away otherwise she was going to go home and sleep (she lives very far away too). well i was just about to go to the gym so i said no.

fast forward to yesterday, and shes texting me wanting to come over...just after i finished with the girl in my last LR. theres period blood still on my sheets but idc.

i meet her on the street and shes very receptive, we start making out right away.

in my room, i discover what ive gotten myself into. this girl is crazy wild. completely strange behavior.

shes getting aggressive with me and literally trying to bite my nose off. so i really had to wrestle around with her. there was a lot of growling from me.

and then at one point she says something lile this:

girl: let me blow you, little bitch!

huuuuuhhhh??

anyways i calm things down cuz its late and i want her out. i dont want to fuck her because her pussy stinks. she starts telling me how she just knows im good in bed because of the lingering touch i used.

she said she was also surprised by me, because im white yet didnt stand around demanding that she blow me.

 

[foggy]

Friday

I'm turning this girl into a fb.

Tried to get her over quickly after the first time we banged. But she said “we’ll see” so I backed off. then she started complaining about my texting frequency, so I told her (again) im not texting a lot because I dont want to get attached. We had a whole conversation about that.

A while ago I mentioned that I wanted to try quickly switching between sexual and romantic frames. I viewed my own stated resistance to getting attached as a romantic frame. So I quickly transitioned from that into sexual escalation. It drove her crazy. she started sending multiple re-engagement texts to me over the course of time whenever I didnt answer. she also became wild and started saying she was really horny for me and that im turning her into a dirty girl. Then she asked me to hang out.

So she came over, and I was ready to fuck her but then I went soft. Immediately, she becomes very testy and is asking me stuff like “why me?” …so I had to qualify her. She wanted to know she was special. But she wouldnt accept my qualifications of her for what felt like forever. I had to reframe and re-explain things to her from a different angle multiple times before she accepted it.

After all this, we went to the store to get a wine opener. I had bought wine for her but I didn’t have a wine opener at my place. It was a pleasant walk. The conversation was actually quite good.

Back at my place, she gets drunk and I get high, and we eventually become a sweaty mess of bodies. It was really, really good. The best sex I ever had.

She teased me for trying to fuck her without a condom. Then I communicated some commitment to seeing her again. Right after that she totally changed her mind on the matter and let me fuck her without one

Saturday

Made same day plans with another asian girl to come over to my place. i played the indirect game with this one. Then all of a sudden I thought.... hm ill try being polarizing. So I strongly implied to her that I was expecting to sleep with her. This caused her to bring up the possibility of sex between us directly in the form of an objection. She said that she could only kiss because she was on her period. I told her there were no expectations on my end.

She came over and we were vibing real nice. She really wasn’t lying about only kissing tho. Lots of LMR from her whenever I tried to move things past kissing. How rough I was got in the way too. One time I pinched her nipple super hard and she screamed at me

Girl: why would you do that!?

an angry girl in my bed. hilarious