Me: "Wow that was great! I wish I could do that"
You come in with a big energy, clapping and what not
"haha yeah" (okay who is this guy approaching us and where is going to go with this)
Me: So where are you guys from?
and then you immediately switch gears into this very rote question.
It is a down turn from the big energy. We were just in handstands and beach sands. and suddenly we are now are talking hometowns with a stranger...
So the conversation stalls.
It's not that it is a bad topic, given that you have the same native tongue. It's just that you jump right into it.
Me: (thinking) umm that's close to Y, right?
Girls: Yeah. Where are you from?
Me: Well I live here, but I'm from Z city originally
Girls: OK
and now you're are squarely in that territory.
They were less impressed that I live here than I had hoped. Also should have phrased that the other way around: I'm from Z city, but I live here now - might have gotten a better reaction. Usually the tourist are like "wow you're so lucky" or something like that.
It wasn't that they weren't impressed with whatever city you were from. It was that they were underwhelmed with your approach.
Me: So are you here on holiday?
Girls: Yes
Me: Been here for long?
HB2: I just arrived yesterday
HB1: And I've been here for a month already
Me: Wow, you like it here?
HB1: Yeah it's much warmer than in X (our native country)!
Me: Yeah but it just got warm today, the last days it was a bit chill (lame, instead of talking about that should have talked about how awesome it is to be here in the warm south)
HB1: ???
Could have maybe saved the whole thing here. You definitely drove it into the ground with yesterday's weather report.
Man. Congrats on taking the leap. That's awesome you are going in for two sets!
Makes me realize how little I've been opening two sets these days. I used to do it way more than I have been recently. Inspiring me to get that going again.
Approaching two sets is fundamentally similar to opening one girl, there is just a bit of a different social frame you have to work with. The underlying mechanisms are the same though.
It also requires a bit of conversational juggling. Managing the input from two different women and steering the dynamic in the right direction.
Opening a two set happens one of two ways. Either you open one, or you open both of them. Not getting into openers now. But that's how it goes. You open one, or your open both.
If you open one, you stay with her a few conversational beats. Then, when it feels natural, you loop the other gal into the convo. Once you have some real momentum going with both of them you slowly direct the focus of the conversation towards the gal you more interested. Still keeping the friend in the convo as much as necessary, mind you. You will find that the more you hit it off with the gal you like, the other will kind of give you two some conversational space. That's great, lean into it, but also don't neglect her. She is a crucial member of this shared moment. Gotta make her an ally. Or at least neutral.
If you open both it is pretty much the same thing, you just have to be sure to be sure to direct your attention on one or the other of them at some point.
You are kind of bouncing between the two of them. Occasionally addressing one, occasionally address both, occasionally addressing the other. Eventually focussing on the one you like
It should be somewhat clear who you are connecting with more, from the get go. Can run into trouble if it is too ambiguous who you are connecting with, for too long. You just ease into what is already somewhat established, until there is more and more momentum between you two.
A number close on the girl you like will often suffice.
If you are feeling cheeky you could always try to get them on an insta date. That would of course mean you have to manage the dynamic for the majority of the seduction. And you run the risk of playing tour guide with tourist gals. I have made out with two friends during day game before though. So you never know what could be on the table
Maybe I'll make another post sometime on more specific two set tactics. But this response is already hefty.
For now recognize how you came into this two set and missed a lot of opportunities.
Here is another direction this conversation could have gone. Just as food for thought
You notice girl doing handstand
Gameboy: Hey that's pretty good. Looks like fun too (light reality pacing)
Girl 1: Haha totally
Gameboy: I bet the beach looks incredible from that perspective (still pacing the conversation. Setting the basic tone of the conversation. Staying away from to ho hum, factual conversation and steering things to more open ended, dynamic terrain)
Both girls laugh
Girl 1: yeah it's beautiful!
Game boy: Isn't it though? These beaches are the best (arms wide, taking in the moment) . You two are obviously not from here (looping the second girl into the conversation with a reasonable cold read). Let me guess. Looking for new horizons. Traveling the world.
Girl 2: Yeah we're visiting from X city. We're on vacation
Gameboy: Wait, are we all speaking (native tongue), that's wild! (using humor to highlight similarity, by pretending like you just realized)
All three of you laugh together
Gameboy: Three (nationality) in an exotic foreign land. Imagine that! Gameboy (hand shakes or the like there of)
Girl 1: Claudia
Girl 2: Lauren
Okay there are a tons of directions this could head but Imma leave it here in the example when the girls are both clearly hooked.
Also, notice in this example how you don't just give everything away right away like "I'm going to approach you and ask you a bunch of questions cause I'm trying to get to know you and then I am just going to straight up tell you where I am from because I want to get to know you".
Instead, let the moment inform the way your connection unfolds. Pace things. Let little personal details come out naturally. Keep conversational fodder stored away, so you can have plenty of topics to move towards. Such as the fact you are from the same country. It is obviously there the whole time (because you have the same native tongue), but you don't over eagerly jump to it thus turning the conversation into a rote Q&A about "what city are you from". Instead it comes out progressively. Naturally. Based on the mood and tone of the connection that is being made. Hope that makes sense.
Thanks for sharing your journey with us
@gameboy