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ray_zorse

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Very inspiring bro. I'd like to get to where you are. Also wanted to note that you seem to have a unique style about you, one that resonates with me (I use some of your goto's or try to, and thanks for sharing), so I bet that when you hit your goals you'll actually surpass a lot of the other seducers around, just by being yourself and incorporating what you've learned into who you are. Good stuff ;) Keep approaching ;)
cheers, Ray
 

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That's a good year Rob!

I think it would be cool to find a girl that would be down to pimp girls with me and have threesomes with. IDK how realistic that is with my skill set but I think if I could find the right girl it might be possible.

Having a harem of women could be cool too. I honestly lack the reference points to have an idea of how that shit actually works but I think its good to dream and think nonetheless.

I've been trying to take the girls I've been dating out and its pretty fun. They usually bring me to the events they would normally go to like college events, festivals, ect (all places w/o alcohol). I call it: approaching while on a date with your fwb! Only thing is it gets weird b/c your girl will stand next to you w/o saying a word while you pimp the other ones (the ones I go out with aren't bisexual). If they get too needy, I'll say I have to talk to some friends and approach a random group :p

I've only taken the girls places they have been (their social circles) so idk what would happen at a random spot like a bar. I've never had guys trying to pick fights with me or the girls straight-up calling me out for "cheating" while approaching.

If you moved to a new area, it could be fun!
 

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Well I just got back from my 2nd day 2 in the past 2 days which is definitely a decent kick off to the year.

This date was super lame on my part. I was in autopilot the whole time, played it semi safe, and stuck in my comfort zone too much mostly out of laziness.

I've been getting too comfortable at my current skill set level, which has led to me playing it safe and not pushing my comfort zone. However I'm resolving to change that as of now.

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Preface
So the approach it self was actually pretty fucking sweet and I'm actually quite proud of this one.

I met this girl at a club last Friday night with my roommate. She was dancing by herself and I pulled her into me, she about dismissed me but I dominantly persisted and she stuck around, and then became engaged.

I ended up getting her number and figured nothing would come out of it (some drunk girl partying and giving out her number like it's a dog treat to the umpteenth guy that night).

She texted back to my ice breaker the next day and proposed a date.

Good news: Good fundamentals to have a 5 minute conversation with a drunk girl in the club and have her text back.
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Day 2 Meet Up
We met at a bar downtown for a drink. I was already there and had my water. She came and was actually a lot hotter than I first thought, but not so hot to where you feel a little pang of insecurity.

She has pretty good fundamentals and actually had pretty good game and is socially savvy.

We start small talk and basic deep diving. She's very socialable but she isn't nervous or chasing much (bad first impression perhaps... she did the tap your shoulder trick where you tap the opposite side of someone's shoulder before you sit down to make them look the other way. I fell for it and probably looked like a tool lol).
Actually looking back to the shoulder tapping thing I should've used that to have some fun with her and set a more fun frame and break the ice better.

She gets me talking about myself a bit but I keep changing the subject back to her and she does the majority of the talking. She's very talkative and in an ADD type of way. She was talking in a way to keep the conversation going more so than in a qualifying herself type of way, which was bad.

I tried a couple ways to break out of this but never really succeeded. She kept talking about impersonal shit and I did a bad job of steering the conversation off of some of those topics.

After about 30 minutes of this I told her to finish her beer and we were going to go on a walk.
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Walk on the Lake
We went for a walk around the lake. My goal for this whole date was to focus the interaction to be more man-woman as opposed to platonic and friendly.

I didn't do a good job of being physical with her and kept my hands to myself for the most part. She was walking with her hands in her pockets and the vibe didn't feel "on" enough to try and hold her hand, which is stupid because I could've just kept persisting until I got what I wanted.

We walk around the lake. I was feeling very lazy and found it hard to break myself out of autopilot conversation and get into "the groove" so to speak.
I notice sometimes I can fall right into my own "groove" where I feel good in my body, I draw state from within, and talk about shit that interests me as well as find creative ways to get physical with the girls. However I couldn't find my way into feeling good and as a result I was
-reaction/validation seeking
-letting her control a lot of the interaction

We walk around the entire perimeter of the park and deep down I was thinking "I need to find a way to escalate or get her out of here" and was very out of the moment as a result. I kept focusing on where I wanted to go and couldn't mind map an emotional route out and to her/my place.

I decided to stick to the process anyway just to see what would happen and suggested we get desert somewhere (somewhere being my house) but she declined and I didn't persist.

Now we're walking around the loop again which to me feels like bad leadership (going in circles). We get another 1/4 of the way around the loop and I decide we need to sit down so we do on a bench. We're fairly close to one another and we start talking about rebellious stuff we've done in the past (drugs).
Then for maybe 20 seconds there was a time in which she was being a bit more submissive and looking at me while neither of us were saying much and I felt like I should kiss her soon (in retrospect it should've been like I felt like I should kiss her NOW). I felt like I should do something but hesitated figuring that there would be a better moment soon after. That 20 seconds ended and she immediately got up and said "I'm tired of sitting down" (translation "i'm tired of waiting for you to make a move").

She said she needed to go home and I made a last ditch effort to make something happen, persisted a bit but not enough and not dominantly and she left.
I talked her into giving me a ride to my car and we kissed twice on the cheek (you know the alternating kiss thing latin people do?) and tried to kiss her immediately after and she turned her cheek and said "I don't kiss on the first date"...

Lol choded myself out on that one.
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Things I did good:
-Good physical leading (aside from going in circles on the lake)
-Good approach and date set up (minimal info just logistics)
-Realized I missed the escalation window and went for a kiss to claim a bit of my masculinity back

Things I fucked up on:
-Not getting into a fun groove where I'm self amused, non-reaction seeking, and in MY reality as opposed to the imposing worlds reality.
-Missed the escalation window= If it feels like something needs to be down DO IT you can always back step if it's not the right move, but I need to NUKE this comfort rut I'm in.
-Conversation. I didn't deep dive to deep depths, had a lot of platonic impersonal conversation threads, and let her control a lot of the conversation of her blabbing on about stupid impersonal irrelevant shit (all my fault)

Things to work on:
-Persistence. Though not super crucial to this interaction in and of itself I noticed I'm giving up WAYYYYY TOOOO EASY and I need to press harder for the close/move/escalation window of whatever.
-Feeling the escalation window and capitalizing on it as soon as you feel it. Fuck the non existent repercussions that you mind makes up. If you lose the girl you never had her to begin with.

Homework:

1. read article/watch vids on persisting to move, close, kiss, LMR
2. Get 5 "Yes's!" that were originally "No's" for either a move, pull, kiss, LMR, or sex
3. Persist 5+ times for a hook, move, or pull on 20 girls. Half asssed persisting doesn't count it must be decisive and convicted. You don't have to get a yes but you must get used to not taking no at face value and giving up too easy. Obviously if it's a firm NO don't keep persisting but if even a sign of waxing back and forth continue to persist.

-Rob
 

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Last night was fucking epic as sheit!

My long term goal for seduction right now is reaching what I call REAL abundance with women by May. Real abundance being physical and mental abundance as opposed to just mental abundance (feeling like you have options and being able to relate to women as if you did have lots of options). Physical abundance being that I actually have the ability to go meet X amount of girls and bring one home in a relatively short period of time. Basically get sex consistently as opposed to sporadically.

After last night I know for SURE that I'm fucking close to reaching this. Once I get in the zone I can get girls to hook and be VERY open to me moving things forward fast with them I just need to iron out where I keep dropping the ball due to my action/inaction and iron out accordingly.

I will reach my goal by the end of April!

One thing I've found out about learning game is that it can be quite therapeutic at times in an odd way.

Times I've been quite anxious about shit and gone out and pimped it, I've come away feeling totally recharged and wondering why I was soo stressed to begin with.

I guess the lesson there is to be responsible for your own emotions, do the thing you know will elevate your state, thus drawing state from within and being emotionally self-reliant.

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I love the process of game when your not in a socialable mood to begin with, you feel like there's no way you'll get into that social charismatic state that you want and you just push each interaction a little further until the next thing your know you're yelling girls down, making out with them, and being completely spontaneous in your interactions.

Also had a couple of first for me last night: Had multiple girls open me due to my outfit (which to be honest wasn't overly spectacular but I had a burgundy blazer on and black chelsea boots similar to the first outfit of Darius's 6 sexy outfits article), got an erection in the club for first time in forever, and had a club makeout in under 5 minutes (not first club makeout but the 2nd one since I turned 21... had a few before I turned 21).

So as aforementioned in one of my last posts I'm doing a different system of breaking down my nights. Instead of listing out each specific interaction I'm just going to take the 3 most memorable interactions (probably the ones with the greatest lessons to takeaway), break them down and write down the lessons to take away from each along with a summary of the night.

1. First real hook
I had a lot of girls I talked to last night that hooked almost immediately that I probably could've moved forward to sex if I did everything right, but most had their friends take them away or I dropped the ball for two seconds and let things slide. Nonetheless I think I've definitely increased my consistency to hook girls, or at least upped my fundamentals to do so.

This girl was I think the 3rd or 4th girl I talked to. She was standing with her fat friend at a not soo packed bar and I opened her directly complementing her legs. I teased her mildly about how she must work out 7 times a weeks to achieve her body.

She didn't have enormous bamby eyes but they were their and she was attracted. She started having some flirtatious banter with some basic small talk mixed with deep diving.

My biggest mistake here was not capitalizing on the escalation window to move her. I never did move her I just kept talking to her and talking to her. My bullshit excuse in my head was that I couldn't move her because she was with her friend and I didn't want to leave her by herself (who gives a shit).

So I knew I should've moved her when I felt the escalation window arise but I didn't. She however still kept investing into the conversation.

About 12-15 minutes in the fat girls friend comes in and now she has a friend so I decide to try and move my girl.

I try and move her ("hey come over here to the other side of the bar real quick I want you to meet my [imaginary] friends") in which she declines, and tells me to bring my friends over to her. I keep persisting but I couldn't get her to budge (she keeps telling me that I'll come back to her and if I don't I'm missing out). I figure this is just a sign that she doesn't like me enough (I'm pretty damn positive I could've moved her at a high point of the conversation) anymore and has lost attraction, so I go off to find a new girl.

Lesson: Stick to the process and always hit the escalation window when it arises and hit it on a high note.

Lesson: Focus on baby stepping interactions that aren't giving large investments of compliance. Instead of asking to move her all the way from one side of the bar to another just ask to move her 6 inches to the right. Then trade places (make up role play or stupid excuse to get her where I'm standing). Then after having 2 positive pieces of compliance to move just take her hand and move her to wherever you wanted to go originally.

Also learn babystepping for conversation and pulling as we'll note down in #3.

2. IBar girl This girl I found in a more rundown club/bar with 3 run down bars with an awesome vibe to it. The basic gist of the vibe in this interaction was the girl was super into me, and hooked instantly. The vibe got ratcheted up quickly and dipped low down quickly as well, got stale and then I made a last ditch effort to save it and she left me accordingly haha.

I met her, stuck my hand up to give her a lingering high five. She left her hand on mine and applied pressure (I can tell a sign of interest). I interlace my hands in hers and she asks me to dance. We dance and I set a role play that we're on a island in the middle of the world together and we're the only ones within thousands of miles of anyone else. I ask her what she would do to me and she says "10 seconds is not a long time for sex" (she wants to tear my clothes off).

The sexual tension is a bit high at this point, a little too high being that I don't want to makeout with her and risk losing her due to emotional cresting, but I can't really pull her at the moment... or could I?

Anyway, I go to try and move her to what I remember being a darker corner of the 3 bars. We go but she says she has to tell her friend (I hate that dumb bullshit of having to "stick together" "buddy system"). I go with her, she tells her friend, and another friend comes (friend #2) and says the guy she found is going to bar #2. We were in bar #3 and I wanted to go to bar #1.

We go with her newfound friend to bar #2 and it's not where I want to be particularly so I move her again to bar #1 to the corner I wanted to go originally. At this point things have gotten very logical and the emotions have crashed from where they were originally when I first met her.

Also the dark secluded corner I was taking her too turned out to be a little bright lit hall where the bathrooms were located. This is where I start losing my intention a bit and have trouble keeping the conversation headed in the right direction.

Now we're both logical and in a small talk/deep dive limbo awkwardly bumbling along even though we both could really give a shit. We were literally right next to the bathrooms and in the back of my mind I was thinking of pulling her into one just to see what her reaction might be but I didn't think her emotional state was correct to do so (logical, not much sexual tension).

Essentially I was lost for where to turn now and decided to throw my role play of 10 seconds to live kiss role play at her and see if she would comply.
I gave her my spiel and she peaced the fuck out immediately hahah. Oh well it's still fairly early?

Lesson: I guess the lesson here is to not let the sexual tension drop to such a low level and maintain it, via leadership.

If I could do this set over again I'd move her into the darker more secluded section of bar #3 on a couch or corner and escalate physically and risk not pulling her (maybe not the best idea but probably the most fun =) ) but release sexual tension. Then I'd try and seed the pull and take her home.

3. Failure to Lead :000!!!!!!
This one pisses me off to write up. I'm mad at myself for not being proactive and letting what happened here happen.

In this club I got really instate towards the end, super irreverent, and yelling girls down.

This girl passed by myself and this dude I met that was pretty cool. She yelled "NO DOn't!" as she passed by and assholishly yelled "YESSS!" at her as she passed. She noticed me and excitedly echoed back "YESS!!". I picked her up in the air and she got super excited and told me it was her birthday. We started dancing and she started grinding on me.
This girl wasn't super hot in the face in retrospect but my god she had a bumbly comfy ass.

I got tired of dancing on the dance floor and pick her up, and went to a shadier side of the club in a mostly unused walkway that connects the bathrooms to the dancefloor.

I make out with her, pull away, and expect her to leave but she sticks around and starts grinding on me. I get aroused and get an erection and become very horny.

Options are running through my mind as to how to pull her. She with one friend. I think they are staying at a hotel somewhat close by. Her friend found a guy to be with so I'm thinking we need to go "afterparty".

After some more grinding the club lights turn on and it is time to go. We go outside and I'm thinking it would be good to all go to a hotel or my house and afterparty it up. The guy with her friend seems bout it and my girl says she wants to keep the party going. I suggest afterparty at my house but it seems like too big of an investment from everyone and they decline. I try and suggest their hotel and the same thing. Now I'm at a loss for what to do, however I freeze up at this point while I try and think for options.

Freezing up was where I dropped the ball. Then the craziest thing happened and they were like lets go for food (A good valid option to remember if going to an afterparty is too big of an investment at the time.. babysteps remember?) and on the way over to food I dropped back behind the 3 of them for a second to say goodbye to my friend and then I caught back up to them and the guy that was originally with my girls friend was now holding my girls hand.

My girls friend comes up to me and tells me that the guy was really her boyfriend. I know she's lieing but what can I do at this point? I let them go into the restaurant and resolve to be more proactive for next time.

Lesson Be proactive and attentive to pulling girls home. Also lead more decisively, come up with backup go to options to throw out. I should've reslted control of this group and told them "hey we can either go to my friends awesome after party (my house lol) or go grab food". Or inquire as to if they'd come home, when they rejected the notion then babystep it by saying "lets go grab some food/drink somewhere else! The night must not end" and basically keep the party going in the group and lead to a better place.

If I could do this interaction over again I would have taken control of the group. Tried to push for the afterparty and if unsuccessful lead the group to continuing to have fun and grab a food/drink elsewhere, then try and get over to their place.

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Overall Summary

Overall I would say I pushed it fairly hard last night. I approached a good 15-20 girls, I was very physical with most the girls I met, and I pushed almost all the interactions in the last half of the night to the hilt.

The main thing that kept recurring this night was investment and having large jumps of investment that the girls were unwilling to compy with.

I need to focus on babystepping investment by breaking large pieces of compliance down into more manageable bit sized pieces that can be chewed and swallowed at the given moment of time.

This can be done easily and just requires some mental agility to not be so attached to the investment as being the only do or die action to take but something that can be broken down into smaller manageable pieces.

Examples:
-Girl won't move across the bar with you -----> Move her a few inches, get her to dance for you, change spots with you, etc.

-Girl won't commit to going home with you or to an afterparty ------> Move them down the street, change their mood, go get a drink/bite to eat elsewhere, etc

-Girl won't kiss you-----------------> Get her to hug you, touch your hand, get her to feel you up, get her to kiss your cheek, etc.

Keep it pimping gents ;)

-Rob
 

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Sup negroes!

So at this point in time I've gone out and met a minimum of 3 new girls per day/night every day since I've moved to Orlando on the 2nd.

What I've found is that my approach anxiety is very very low, and I have good momentum that I can keep up quite easily.

Tonight I went out to a local college bar with my roommate.

The night itself was really fun. I got into state MUCH MUCH easier with a wingman/friend to go out with than when I go out by myself simply because I had someone to keep me from getting stuck in my head (the typical "oh no I'm by myself and have no friends, everyone is looking at me bullshit" was a thing of the past).

So I don't drink when I go out and my roommate has no idea I'm even into pickup and that I've trained myself to go talk to groups of people. So he literally thinks I'm this massively social extrovert.

Some funny approaches for the night went down including:
-Horrible PU line of the night- "Hello.. Pursuant to Megans law I'm obliged to inform you I'm a registered sex offender. I'm Robert"- This actually went AMAZING and the girl was really attracted to me but it was early in the night and she didn't have a friend for my wing and I let things drift off. Perhaps shouldn't have let that happen but whatever Abundace.
-Approached a group of girls and told them to rate my roommate on the hotness scale. They denied compliance so I told them I'd rate them. I rate the ugly girl a 10.5 and the hot girl a 4. It turned out the hot girl wasn't actually hot (I didn't get a great look at her) and was actually close to a 4 in looks so I feel bad now lol.
-Took two girls away from some chode that was babbling on looking kind of lame. I literally picked these two girls up, one in each arm, and took them away from the lamo and through them on my roommate.

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Breakdown
1. 2 younger girls (19) that I approached and brought my wing into in the early part of the night. I opened good here, and got the ball rolling well and then sort of stalled out a little. Luckily my wing came in and brightened things up a bit and allowed me to regain course again and add value to the interaction leading the girls to want to stick around.

One thing to note here is that when in doubt of conversation SOMETHING is better than NOTHING. Standing around like an aloof chode hoping a good conversation topic will come to mind is LAME and POINTLESS. Say something, go off that, and don't get too logical or small talky with these young college girls! They want fun not deep diving, unless it's to qualify themselves.

We chatted them up and had a bit of fun for about 5 minutes or more and I figured we might as well move them and get them following our lead so we went off to the bar. Here my wing ordered drinks and I was implicitly going to chat up the girls and keep them having fun in the meantime.

I failed at this!

I didn't do a good job of with improv on the conversation here and could've used some fast thinking. This would have been a good time to have a fun routine or plot line to spout out and get them having fun (think hypothetical scenarios or "marry, fuck, kill") and keep them engaged and then improv after that.

Because I failed to keep them engaged our value dropped and they soon left.

Lesson: Conversing/interacting is better than not! Have some prepared conversation starters or routines in your back pocket when you need to keep the fun level up and get into a rut in your conversation.


2. This girl was standing by herself next to where the bathrooms are. I approached her with the "I'm a sex offender" line and she absolutely ate it up. We bantered a bit more about my little scenario and she displayed good attraction for me. I then introduced her to my roommate and we were a group talking. This definitely distracted her from my awesomeness and her attraction for me but I wasn't going to leave my roommate hanging since we came out to hook up together and this girl didn't have any friends with her.

We continued to banter and have fun as a 3 person group and soon decided to go get more beer.

It was one of those interactions that started out solid but got more ambivalent as time progressed and dipped into the grey zone of "does he want to be my friend or fuck me?" type of deal.

I sort of gave up on her and decided to use her more as social proof and have fun for the remainder of our time together.

Lesson: Not really sure here... I was happy with my decision although I feel like I should've just said fuck my wing and escalate on her hard.


3. This was my ender for the night. I could tell she hadn't been in the club long. She was fairly hot and wasn't really talking to anyone (looked open to being open) so I approached her. She opened quite well and was into me. Upon exchanging names the conversation vibe died down a bit (I have that problem a lot when opening girls when you exchange names and then....... uh!).

I forged on for a bit and then got onto a better emotional tenor of the conversation vibe and we started hitting it off a bit more (got her investing a bit about what she studies and she qualified herself. Then got her to guess what I'm going to be etc etc.).

Then I see my roommate, who has to use the bathroom bad give me the "lets go" signal and so I go to close things out with this girl.

My plan was to get her and her friends back for an afterparty so I try and frame the club as being lame/immature and where we're going as being awesome. They basically just got there and it was still around just after 12 o'clock so I knew they probably weren't going to leave right now (large investment chunk for a 2 minute conversation and having 4 friends that don't even know us). But I figured hail Mary if we were about to head back home.

On a side note here one thing I did that was very powerful that spiked attraction was pulling the girl into me to talk to her in the loud club as opposed to leaning in to talk to her and not getting her to invest or be close to me.

I hear this a lot (pull the girl in instead of lean in to talk to her) and usually when you're talking to a girl the conversation in your head is telling you "she won't like it and leave", "you don't want her to think your a drunk creep", "it's too soon to pull her in and have your bodies pressed up against each other.. better play it safe and lean in to talk to her".

What I was doing at the beginning of the conversation with this girl as leaning in to talk to her but at some point I was like "fuck this" and just pulled her into me very casually like it was the most normal thing ever and she fell into that reality and also spiked attraction noticeably.

Lesson: The importance of pulling the girl into you to talk as opposed to leaning in. Chodes lean in and supplicate, bosses pull girls into them.

Keep it pimpin gents!

-Rob
 

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You've really got this night game thing going for you, dude. I think it's just your natural personality - it comes out well at the clubs and bars!

~Nick
 

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Hey Rob, I notice that you're really good at stimulating girl's emotions.
Would you mind sharing what your "role plays" and "routines" are to kick off interactions.
I'm finding myself stuck in a place where I keep being WAY too logical with girls and I just wanted something to practice with until I started finding my own style.
 

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Mr. Wes said:
Hey Rob, I notice that you're really good at stimulating girl's emotions.
Would you mind sharing what your "role plays" and "routines" are to kick off interactions.
I'm finding myself stuck in a place where I keep being WAY too logical with girls and I just wanted something to practice with until I started finding my own style.

Sup Wes!

I don't use such tactics to "kick off an interaction" as much as I use them to spike an interaction.

I'll spike an interaction when things start to get a bit stale or aren't picking up the pace well. Which can be at any time of an interaction with a girl.

There's probably a 1000 ways to spike an interaction emotionally but I personally use a handful of different go to type of things.

For one hypothetical situations are something I've always had a liking too and can be really fun to play around with. I took this idea from a good childhood friend I had growing up who would always ask ridiculous hypothetical scenarios like "would you drink a gallon of horse cum to have sex with Megan Fox?" or "what would you do if got shot in the stomach with a shotgun?".

I then revamped this idea via RSDJulien who uses hypothetical scenarios to sexualize his interactions with women. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ban1-umBhMI Hopefully it will load for you because it never works on my computer for some reason.

Basically Julien asks "lets say you meet a guy and he's your soul mate. You get married, go on your honey moon, and you're about to have sex for the first time and he pulls his dick out and it's a 1 inch long wet carrot stick. What would you do? Would you still have sex with him?".

You can make up any different scenario but just make it sexual and amusing to yourself.

Here's one from an old LR of mine:
Me: So lets say you meet this guy and fall in love with him and you realize you've found your soul mate (lol soul mate). You love everything about him and he's amazing and one day you decided to go home with him and have sex.
You get to his house and you just get undressed and ready and right before he fucks you he stops, gets on his knees, and starts praying
"Dear god in heaven thank you for giving me this wretched girl to dump my cum into". Would you still have sex with him or would you walk out?

Her: HAHAHAHAHA OMG!!! Your crazy! No! I think that would be hilarious I would totally have sex with him!

I also do this when I want a girl to initiate a makeout with me see: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8775

Aside from hypothetical situations I'll use negs and push/pull to spike a new emotional tenor and be more challenging. I'm still ironing out the kinks in push/pull and how to use it properly. I've found that the hotter the girl the harder you should neg because she's not used to getting negative social feedback. However there's a fine line you have to walk and she has to be invested to a certain degree in the interaction otherwise she's going to get offended and walk away.

With push/pull's you don't use them in a way to social ladder climb the girl (which it seems is how they were intended to be used in the PUA community originally) and make yourself of higher value (though if used right you will have higher value, but for a different reason). Instead you use push/pulls for FUN as a way to be challenging and break up boring small talk/deep diving.

Ideally when you push/pull the reaction you're aiming to get is her hitting you mildly hard in the chest or arm with an attracted/shocked look on her face. You want to be a playful asshole. If done correctly this can really amp up attraction and get things off boring logical bullshit.

I'll even mock some girls I meet in an Eric Cartman (from southpark) voice to show them how ridiculous they sound when they say dumb shit (exp. girl is complaining about some trivial bullshit and ruining the vibe. I'll imitate how dumb she sounds in my Cartman voice).

Basically the core tenet of this shit isn't a routine to make her attracted to you, as much as it is a frame of mind to come from to have FUN and get off the stupid logical platonic lamo land that most people operate from.

Another thing I'll do is give ridiculously sarcastic answers to girls or even make up flat out lies to questions that aren't going to matter what the answer is anyway.
Exp-
Girl: So what do you do for a living
Me: I'm a pipe layer... I lay pipes in wet holes in the ground. It pays quite well surprisingly
or
Me: I raise and sell cats out of my moms basement...

These frame you as a lover hardcore by the way, which is always fun. You can answer whatever question with some weird or sexual answer. Just make sure your focus is on answering in a way that will make you laugh, that YOU find funny.

Just remember though that all this is just to keep the interaction going and spike an new emotional tenor to the interaction. This stuff will not produce results other than a spike in attraction. It's easy to get focused on reactions here, but you keep your eye on the ball and see emotional spikes for what they are and not as the end all way to get laid. You still have to pull and escalate at the end of the day.

Questions?

Great to talk to you bud, hear from you soon.

-Rob
 

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Thanks Rob!
That was really helpful.
 

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Hey Rob!

Thanks so much for the insights on how to turn the convo sexual. What have been girls' responses when you've asked them about the hypothetical scenario with the small dick? Do some of them ask "Do you have a small dick?", or "Why do you ask?" or something else? How do you respond if she doesn't reply immediately but questions you instead... ?
 

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Hey whats up Snipefield, great question because that does happen from time to time.

snipefield said:
What have been girls' responses when you've asked them about the hypothetical scenario with the small dick?
Usually if delivered correctly I get a response of girl rolling her eyes and laughing and initiating touch on me. Usually they'll say "haha omg! I would still totally fuck him I couldn't just tell him no!" or "Omg how embarrassing! I would walk straight out on him!".

If delivered incorrectly you get a pretty bad awkward response of "that's weird as fuck I can't believe you just said that". However if you deliver it correctly, correctly being a place of self amusement and being curious as to how she'll react if you say such a crazy thing to talk to a stranger about. Incorrect delivery being saying it in hopes of making her like you more or have a good reaction to it.

snipefield said:
Do some of them ask "Do you have a small dick?",
Haha yes that will happen from time to time. No biggie here you just rock it by pulling her into you, giving good eye contact, and then saying something along the lines of "yeah it's so small I can't even find it half the time".

All it is is a shit test. Very easy to pass just play into it in a cocky way like small penises are the SHIT! lol

Also I only use this on girls that I know are already attracted to me. This stuff will amplify existing attraction, not create attraction that isn't there.

Keep it pimpin ;)

-Rob
 

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Thanks for replying, Rob! I have a good idea of how this can go down now.

Now, if she does reply like you mentioned:
Omg how embarrassing! I would walk straight out on him!

or answers in another way, how much longer do you stay on the topic? Do you basically milk it for all it's worth? With the small dick example, you make her explain why she would walk out on the guy, why it would be a dealbreaker, etc?

Or maybe you switch it up right after the question and talk about something else entirely?

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snipefield said:
Or maybe you switch it up right after the question and talk about something else entirely?
Correct don't stay on the topic for too long.

Just tease her for whatever her answer is and then switch topics. However you can always bring it back up later down the road very momentarily and remind her of her answer when she says something that would make sense.

Exp.
Her: Yeah and then I dumped him cause he was a scrub
Me: Just like carrot dick huh? I knew you're trouble...

You seem to be pretty eager to try this out. Go use it 10 times and come back and tell me how things went!

-Rob
 
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This is actually not a nightgame outing, but a daygame scenario I ran into today that I made a few mistakes on that I need to pinpoint exactly where I fudged.

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First a mindset/observation I've noticed regarding emotional state

Upon first arriving to Orlando I was killing it pretty hard with girls, going on dates, having lots of girls text me (and a few chase me), and getting a lot of hooks from girls I was meeting.

Then over the past week I had a few downs and not the greatest outings in the world where I failed to act from the masculine frame I try and hold myself to and I got a bit down (weak). I got dependent on validation for feeling confident and convicted of my reality and instead I started having self doubt creep in.

I wasn't drawing my emotional state from my self and was instead basing it on external factors.

It's the craziest thing ever to think one week I'm amazing with women and the next week to doubt myself in being able to hold a conversation all the way with a girl.

Worst part is I almost start believing my self doubt.

What I'm trying to get down here is to KNOW that your going to have the ebb and flow of life, with women, and in the world in general. KNOW, TRUST, and have FAITH that it's a temporary emotional state that isn't going to last forever, and don't believe or fall into the "lower" self that is talking in that manner.

With that said on to the main event!
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Bohemian Rhapsody

I believe that song was by the queen and was a fairly hippish song.

I'm not really much into hippie girls (or people in general for that matter) but I see this girl with these interesting pants design on with a nice cute butt fit skin tight (like yoga pants).

The situation is that I'm in Walmart, this girls in the cat food isle and I head down the isle. Once I turn down the isle she starts heading the opposite way so I call out to her that I like her pants, in a sexual way.

She stops to talk and seems flattered but doesn't really know how to process a stranger talking to her in Walmart, however she seems interested.

I inquire on her pants, and she tells me they're "Bohemian" (whatever that means) and a little chit chat and then she's about to head off (still unable to process how to handle the situation).

Right before she heads off I shoot out another question asking if she goes to college in the area. She says "no" and a little info about what she's about to do with her life. She then heads off.

I stand in the isle I'm at and wonder whether or not I should go back after her...

Then after a minute or two she comes back in front of the isle to look at something else.

I congruently tell her that I never had any intention of buying cat food and am now lost in this isle and don't know what to do (indirectly telling her I came to meet her). She somewhat excited and flattered but still a bit edgy about the whole situation.

I ask her name, spell her name, and then she inquires on mine and does the same (good investment).

I chat a bit more and then tell her to put her goods in my cart and we'll go shopping together. She complies nervously yet excited and we head off.

We grocery shop, have fun while doing it, get to know one another a bit and then go to check out.

I'm obnoxious in Walmart with everyone around me (my reality), and self amuse accordingly. She keeps telling me "You're sooo interesting!" which I don't really believe to be true but she's attracted and investing in me.

We go to check out the groceries and I make my first mistake.

She tells me I should go to a festival. You know like the modern day Woodstock where people collaborate to watch live music with you and 10,000 of your closest friends all doing hallucinogens and getting wasted. I've personally never been to one but I have a lot of old friends that used to go get down and party hard at those things, however the way they described them it never seemed like my cup of tea.

I fuck up here by dissing her idea, which I initially intended as a playful neg, but came out as an assholish bashing of her idea. Also I find out immediately after that she loves going to festivals and has a lot of fun there.

By bashing her idea ("oh yeah do hardcore drugs and watch music fun".. which to be honest I'm not totally opposed to. though I'd probably not go too hard on the drugs these days), I othered myself as Chase would say. And I pushed her away in a bad way that was hard to recover from.

I could tell immediately by her body language and demeanor that she was on the verge of auto-rejection and I had to try and salavage it.

I went into how my friends go to festivals and this that and the other, which helped but never got us on the same field as we were before.

She paid for her groceries and was gave the "nice to meet you" but I told her to stay for a couple more seconds while I finished my paying the cashier.

I knew she still liked me, and wanted to like me but didn't feel the same connection to me as we were having before.

We walk out Walmart and I get her to ride the shopping buggy like a child together (which was quite a bit of fun btw... we almost hit a car pulling out of a row of parked cars which was fun (my reality once again).

We got to her car and I announced that she was going to take me to my car.

We talk in her car and she's somewhat cooled off and I thought I might have a chance to salvage this after all.

Yet she's starting to question my motives and if I'm a serial killer etc. etc. type of shit. I tell her I'm taking a chance by being with her too.

I tell her to come make dinner with me and we'll keep hanging out. She tells me she can't because we just met etc etc.

I try my best to handle her objections but am not successful. She then drives me to my car.

She's about to get me out of my car but I start deep diving her and try and get an emotional connection going again. She opens up about a couple things (her grandmother being her inspiration in life, reason behind her tattoos, etc) and is quite content to talk with me still but is wary to go anywhere with me and tells me she has to go to work (which I don't believe).

I try and use a yes ladder (which I totally utterly suck shit at... I get confused as to what two easy compliance yesses I should say before getting to the meat and potatoes one), which fails. I try and deep dive her on why she's wary to go with me, etc.

No dice. I try and kiss her. No dice.

I propose we hang out at a future time, get phone #, send ice breaker, and once again no dice.

In conclusion I'm sure there's something I could've done here to turn things around (perhaps escalate and push to sex in her car... would've been gangsta), but my main mistake was fucking up the emotional connection by othering myself. Main mistake.

Act, fail, learn, repeat, succeed!

-Rob
 

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Rob,

I love the frame you set and maintain with this interaction, and your congruence looks like it made a nice impact.


"I'm obnoxious in Walmart with everyone around me (my reality), and self amuse accordingly"
The dickish/IDGAF vibe is something i am trying to involve more. I have pulled it off twice with great results but how do you go about maintaining the frame(when you started)? how long did it take to adapt?

-Thanks, Brum
 

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Dang Rob, should've passed that hippie girl my way lol. I love hippy chicks. One of my "girlfriend quality" girls are the ones who would smoke weed, make music and artwork with me and we go on random adventures. (Kinda like the married couple that introduced me to weed)
Anywaaayyy,
I agree that you othered yourself but I don't think it was too big of a deal. You seemed like you salvaged it well.
I think it may have been a combination of that and something else...
At the point where she may have been thinking: is this guy a serial killer or a rapist?
How did you handle her objections?

Maybe at this part you just voice how absurd that idea is like: psh! Why would a serial killer go through all THIS?
Or sarcasm: yeaaa, I'm trying to take you back to my rape dungeon (rolls eyes)
Then get really genuine and qualify her, telling her why you want to spend time with her:
You seem like a really cool girl, I just feel like living in the moment with you. If we part ways, life happens and we may never see each other again.

Ya feel me?
Idk...I want to try that out a bit before I go around giving it as advice...
Anyway, good job. I think she didn't reply because the persistence creeped her out. (Not saying persistence is bad...it depends on the girl)

Peace. I'm gonna go google what this "bohemian" pants is all about lol
 

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Mr. Wes said:
Dang Rob, should've passed that hippie girl my way lol. I love hippy chicks.
Haha she's all your Wes ;)

I remember you talking about your experience of smoking with hippie girls and your positive disposition to the experience! You probably would've hit it off good. She had one of those hippie nose piercings where you have the ring coming out of the bottom of the nose. You like that shit? Tattoos of Giraffes on her arm in a artsy manner. Whole 9 yards lol.
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Mr. Wes said:
How did you handle her objections?
Exactly!

Mr. Wes said:
Ya feel me?
I feel ya nigga, note taken.

Turned out she gave me a fake number so apparently I didn't handle her objections right or make her feel like she could trust me which explains a lot. Didn't do a good job of making her feel comfortable and at ease with me, which usually I'm fairly adept at.

brum said:
The dickish/IDGAF vibe is something i am trying to involve more. I have pulled it off twice with great results but how do you go about maintaining the frame(when you started)? how long did it take to adapt? -Thanks, Brum

Hey Brum was checking out your journal earlier and it looks like you don't have much issues getting dates or even sex but you're just trying to tighten the nuts and bolts down on everything, am I correct? I like your attitude as well great to have like minded spirits on the boards here!

So I definitely didn't start out with the IDGAF vibe as you call it, but I cultivated it over time.

The way I learn is through watching how others act and emulating accordingly. I can get a certain degree down pat from reading on paper but I can really emulate vibes from seeing them in action and replicating them.

In my case I replicated my IDGAF vibe off Anatman/NJ off the boards here and RSD along with my own creativity.

Here's some infield footage I like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKSV1kvE9GU

Chases article on "how to be an asshole" is also something I've embodied to the T.

Basically I replicated myself off a couple core guys I like from their attitude, behavior, and vibe. Over time you get bolder and bolder and you LOVE the feeling when you're in that state so your mind sort of gets positive feedback to act that way. I definitely don't act that way 100% of the time but I seek to get myself in that state as often as possible and find the emotional triggers that get me there.

I haven't explored the concept of "being in your own reality" too much put it's interesting to think. If I were to speculate I think it could be explained that you're basically freely and fully expressing your personality in the way YOU most desire to express it. Even if no one were present to witness your reality you'd still do it anyway. You do it for your own amusement and satisfaction, everyone else can come for the ride or deal with it. When you speak not to get any sort of reaction but simply because YOU like what you're saying.

Russell Brand does this 100% spot on and is probably the best example I can find of being in your own reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u51pLdohMzU

Hopefully I didn't ramble too much and that all made sense!

Keep it pimpin gents ;)

-Rob
 

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Daygame gangsterism ;)

I have a wing to go out with now. He's just getting into game, and though not a mega pimp by any means he takes action and has a good attitude which is all I really want anyway.

We went out to a small college a couple miles away from where we live and did we ever hit a gold mine????!!!!

This little college has an extremely small population but literally every 3rd girl that we saw was fucking hot! The draw back is that the school is soo small it will be easy to exhaust our resources and get a reputation but "hey I'll never see these people again?". Time to create a good story.

I feel like I've VERY recently hit a mental block where I'm not doing something correct internally and it's leading to a lack of results.

For example I went out today, I approached probably 10 girls, I got 7 numbers and only one of them texted back.

I will say a couple of those numbers I got seemed like they were not going to go anywhere, and these days I usually don't take numbers unless I feel like they will go somewhere.

However a couple approaches I did I felt as if the number was going to go somewhere but they never texted back. One girl I like I'm going to call back tomorrow and persist.

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What I learned in this outing.

1. The first girl I talked to I made up fake reasons for why I was at the campus and she caught me in my own bullshit (I mixed the names of the people I told her I was about to meet "Doug" and "Dan" lol). I opted to come clean and tell her I was at her campus to pick up girls and she actually didn't flee in horror but instead was somewhat put at ease. There were a few other times that I wasn't honest with my "piddling" reason for being where I was and the girls could sense a bit of dishonesty.
There were also a few other times I was blatantly honest and it earned respect and admired attraction

Lesson: Girls can unconsciously smell the dishonesty from a mile away. You don't have to blatantly tell girls you're there to pick up but be honest with your answer.

2. The best approach of the day I approached a group of girls and 2 were fucking HOT. My vibe was on point, I didn't honestly think the approach was going to go down well but the girl was totally into it and appeared quite attracted to me.
I think the reason it went so well was because I didn't think it was going to go great and I rocked up not seeking the girl to like me.

Another approach I made immediately after was two fatties that I approached literally only to share my good state and to ask how to spell the name of the girls # I just got. My opener was "how do you spell Charlotte?". Which to most girls would come off clearly as an "excuse" to chat them up, but because my REAL intention was literally to share my good emotion and get the proper spelling for a name and nothing more these girls were immediately attracted to my vibe and started asking me questions immediately.

Same as vibe with Mallory, in that because I know I'm not going to fuck them I'm not seeking anything and that in and of itself is highly attractive. If I could find a way to replicate that with girls that I do want to fuck it would be amazing... just a bit troubling.

Looking back a lot of my lays came with this vibe of not needing the outcome. It's such a paradox because on one hand you need to display your full intent but on the other hand you need to be free from outcome, balancing the two is quite the challenge.

3. That little spot is a gold mine and an extremely BEAUTIFUL part of the city. Absolutely fell in love with the area.

Over and out

-Rob
 

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Hey Brum was checking out your journal earlier and it looks like you don't have much issues getting dates or even sex but you're just trying to tighten the nuts and bolts down on everything, am I correct? I like your attitude as well great to have like minded spirits on the boards here!

Yea, thats pretty much it. I have begun getting my reference points and now I want to improve on quality. Thank man, I appreciated it I love reading your posts as well.

The way I learn is through watching how others act and emulating accordingly. I can get a certain degree down pat from reading on paper but I can really emulate vibes from seeing them in action and replicating them.

In my case I replicated my IDGAF vibe off Anatman/NJ off the boards here and RSD along with my own creativity.

Here's some infield footage I like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKSV1kvE9GU

I have spent more of my time reading. I think its about time to watch some videos I will definilty check those out.

Tho to be fair Anatman's writing is descripitive enough that footage isnt neccesary haha.


Basically I replicated myself off a couple core guys I like from their attitude, behavior, and vibe. Over time you get bolder and bolder and you LOVE the feeling when you're in that state so your mind sort of gets positive feedback to act that way. I definitely don't act that way 100% of the time but I seek to get myself in that state as often as possible and find the emotional triggers that get me there.

Hell yea, getting in the state of mind where nothing any one does or says affects you is its own high. I have only obtained it twice and the results were phenomenal. Returning to that state now is more challenging because I am not sure what exactly triggers the response in my head. Both times though were nights i got some fantasic momentum going. I don't know if that helps you get to that state?

I
haven't explored the concept of "being in your own reality" too much put it's interesting to think. If I were to speculate I think it could be explained that you're basically freely and fully expressing your personality in the way YOU most desire to express it. Even if no one were present to witness your reality you'd still do it anyway. You do it for your own amusement and satisfaction, everyone else can come for the ride or deal with it. When you speak not to get any sort of reaction but simply because YOU like what you're saying.

Me driving home from work every day. I didn't realize it until just now. But i turn on whatever music will put me in the vibe i want at the time and then go into my own reality as you say. I never liked driving until recently because I drive and my mind goes where ever whenever and i think what you are refering to is what is happened. I tend to think most about the mental aspects of pick up here. Hmmmm this is very interesting....

Russell Brand does this 100% spot on and is probably the best example I can find of being in your own reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u51pLdohMzU

addded to the list.

Hopefully I didn't ramble too much and that all made sense!

Nope i appreciate the response... Now i have some homework to do :)
 

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Last night I went out with my roommate and a group of his friends (mostly guys). All cool people but not really anyone I hit it off with (mostly older attorney's) but a group to go out with nonetheless.

Last night was a bit weird as I started off getting into the zone alright but then went down in mood, slogged it out a bit, told myself 3 more approaches, hit up a girl who instantly liked me and pulled her to an afterparty... sort of??

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Started off with the group at this dive bar with live band playing and maybe 15 people at the whole bar. 4 girls were lezzed out and the rest were old and saggy with the exception of 2 married girls (approached both of them so thats why I know they were married) and 1 fucking hot girl who was a cousin of one of the married girls.

This was probably my best interaction of the night and I wish I would've been more proactive on it.

This girl bumped into me while I was talking to her cousin (the married girl) and she somewhat stepped on my shoe and I said some sarcastic asshole comment that threw her off for a second before I told her "just kidding come here" and hugged her. This spiked her attraction for me and she was now interested and qualifying herself rather hard.

She also tells me I'm mysterious, which is quite the compliment but I don't really think that's a great adjective to describe me at this point in time.

We talk for a bit, I tell her to stand up, we get physical fast and she hugging me sexually and investing more than me. We talk more and when I look at her I can tell she has "bambi" eyes for me.

Then she goes to talk to her cousin for a second and they are about to leave, but I thought for some reason she wasn't going to leave with them... I assumed wrong motherfucker.

I'm now making small talk with the people around me and she's talking with her cousin still. I should've just grabbed her off and moved her and screened logistics but I passively let her talk with her friends and shit waiting for her to come back to me (thinking I'm soooo cool).

She leaves with her group and I never see her again.... I suck.

If I could do this over again I wouldn't have let her go and if she did I would've reapproached her and pulled her aside.

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This girl I saw walking by herself and knew I needed to approach. I approached her and she was fairly fun. Nothing too crazy in the interaction other than she wasn't really investing in me super hard.

I find out she's walking to her apartment and she tells me I can't come. I keep walking with her anyway. I get her laughing at one point and she starts investing more into the interaction.

I tried to hold her hand twice and get some physicality established but she kept withdrawing compliance.

Ultimately I walk with her until she gets serious about me not being able to go into her apartment because she has a fiancé. Which I think was total bullshit but nonetheless she wasn't really having me and I didn't want to freak her out and keep walking with her.

If I could do it over again I would have gotten her to stop and then proceeded to get physical with her. I wasted time by walking for 1/4 of a mile out of my way with her, which was stupid in retrospect.

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Next I went to a club nearby where I just wandered around to and got really stuck in my head, wandering around like a chode.

I made a few bullshit half ass approaches which got me nowhere and got blown out once. I then went to find a space at the bar to gather my wits about myself and regroup.

Soon enough the club lights came on and it was time to go. There were two hot girls sitting on this sofa looking very prestigious (seemingly) and superior so I made it a must to go approach them in my not-so-glorious emotional state. I went and approached the less attractive girl on the couch (the other girl was getting hit on) and she was modestly uniterested.

They both got up and left soon after.

I could've ran back after her and persisted but she wasn't that hot and I didn't feel I had it in me so I let her go.

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This was interesting and I learned a lesson on the importance of decisiveness on this one.

I approached this girl with an interesting dress on (she looked like an escaped classy gypsy) and she immediately liked me and me her.

Her friend soon came up and about cock blocked me but I she was close enough to me that I put my arm around the friend and told her I'm a "nice sober man" and got the friend on my side immediately so much so that the friend gained attraction for me as well.

We're all talking but my arms around the friend (non gypsy girl that I like) and this chode dude they know comes up to hang out as well. He's a mega chode and apprarently their friend for reasons unknown.

We all agree we should go hit up an afterparty at the girls place. I tell them I can drive so we leave towards my car.

At this point I'm more interacting with the friend and not the girl I originally approached. They're both fuckable and about equally as hot, I believe they both like me, however the friend is fucking annoying and talks too much about shit I don't care about (her dog that ate shrrooms and has been tripping for the last 5 years straight).

This is where I wish I would've pushed the friend off and taken back my gypsy girl and stuck with her. However my plan at the time was to just go with the group and when we get back to afterparty we'll just pair off then. If I can walk the line of auto rejection and get the preselection from the friend it will up the attraction of the girl I actually want to fuck.

We drive off in my car, I actually pick up my roommate who's drunk as can be, and we all head off to the after party.

It's the two girls, my roommate and I, and the mega chode.

I'm thinking we're going to get back to the place, the 5 of us party it up and then my roommate and I will go ballsdeep in these hoes and then we'll peace out everyone happy... well except the chode but not everyone can win anyways can they?

I'm driving to this hoes house and out of nowhere she pulls out a bag of coke, dips her car key in it, and snorts a fat bump of cocaine off her shit while I'm driving down the interstate.

I'm like "WTF ho?! you can't just be snorting cocaine lines in my car without even asking first!"

She apologizes and then gives me more directions to her house. She also calls me baby doll and I tell her to cut bullshit. She's like "I call everyone baby doll". I tell her everyone but me.

We get to her house, things are cool they get their shit situated (start doing drugs of all nature). And I sit back with my roommate while he gets a beer.

I'm thinking we'll get some music going start having fun and then isolate these girls and fuck.

Right as I'm getting this plan organized 3 dudes walk into the apartment and introduce themselves. The girls freak out and greet them enthusiastically.

FUCK.... that's lame.

Now theirs 5 dudes and 2 girls. My roommate and I decide to stick around for another minute or two just out of sheer amusement. At this point I'm throwing in the towel to turn this seduction around and out compete the two new guys that just came into the equation with cocaine and drugs to offer (value).

The girl I initially approached goes into the bathroom with the dude that just walked in with cocaine and presumably went to go snort lines off his dick... which I actually am a bit jealous of.

Then the other guy comes over, asks who the fuck we are, how we got here, and then asks us to leave. We take our time in readying ourselves and don't take this dude too seriously. (apparently the more annoying girl is his girlfriend and he feels threatened that we came home with her randomly)

We leave the chode fest and my roommate and I chalk the experience up as a story to tell.

-Rob
 
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