Rob's Nightgame Gangsterism

[Mr.Rob]

Okay just watched a RSD video that totally reminded me of a mistake I made the other night at the bar.

When it comes to leading and moving girls around don't ask but instead TELL.

Assume they are going to say yes and just move them anyway.

Now when I was talking to Rachel the other night and we were getting into sex talk and I could see her pupils dilating I was thinking it'd be good to pull her then and there to go find a dark alley and fuck because I know she's down for adventure like that.

Now I did tell her but I didn't assume she agreed to come with me by taking her by the hand and leading her and saying "lets go I'm going to show you xyz we'll be right back".

I think I've been forgetting this recently by instead saying "hey come over to the bar with me" and then waiting for them to comply and agree before moving.

Instead I want to up the dominance by saying "hey come with me to the bar" then take her hand and pull her over with me.

Also on that same interaction I let some girl break circle with me and I remember what Chase posted about the importance of breaking circle and how it affects her attraction and thinking you have some thing "special" with one another.

So two things to work on:

1. When moving girls around assume they are going to comply, tell them what they're about to do, and grab their hand and take them to wherever you're taking them. Up the dominance.

2. Practice not breaking circle. If someone interrupts, even if they interrupt you, don't break circle first and be sure to keep eye contact with the girl

That is all for now!

 

[Mr.Rob]

Also more commanding in your investment requests with a more breaking rapport tonality yet warm at the same time.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Last night I was not really feeling like even having sex but I told myself I was going to go out so of course my discipline brought me out.

I told myself I couldn't go home until I approached at least 10 different girls and I did 11 so I'm happy.

At one point of the night I had approached 8 girls and I got stuck in my head for about 10 minutes and didn't want to approach on the dance floor but I looked at it then like finishing a work out and you have to do it.

I approached two girls on the dance floor who shooed me away immediately and another exotic chick who's supposed boyfriend came up but I didn't really care so much as I was ready to go home at that point anyway.

So I'm proud of myself for going out despite not wanting to go out or feelling even remotely sexually randy. Not many guys have the balls to go out by themselves sober and pimp it so I did good.

Going to jot down the main interaction from last night.

Katie

This was a cool opening in a social circle setting.

I approached two older girls in their 30's before going into the club and they were cool and I invited them to tag along with me to the club since they were going anyway.

One of the girls was a VIP member of the club that knew the head bouncer and got us all in for free so that was pretty baller.

On top of that the other friend was going to meet a big group of friends from Alabama yet the girl that got us in did not know (and obviously neither did I) so we were introduced to all these new people and they all thought I was really good friends with the girls I met about 5 minutes ago.

There was one pretty hot girl with them and we traded names and started chatting and she seemed very keen, warm, and open (social circle setting means I get easier buy in).

Then my girls leaves me to go take pictures with the group.

I don't know if the girls I approached told everyone that they didn't know me but I think they did because a few people in the group were rather cold towards me after a bit.

I could care less I just wanted to seduce the hot girl in the group and have some fun partying with the elderly girls.

After the girls took pictures they were standing in a group of 4 and didn't seem to be leaving. So I was standing there with my dick in my hand with the option of talking to one of the lame older dudes in the group of going into the group of girls.

I chose the latter and started flirting/playing with the elderly girls and they were having fun.

I then found a way to isolate the girl I wanted to seduce and luckily the girls in the group all went to dance while we chatted.

Basic deep diving and banter with a couple of hypothetical sex situations and some cold reading.

Nothing flashy or fancy but I was trying to feel her out a bit as to how sexual she is or could become and at a few points got onto sex talk but I was unable to move it to deep diving her sexual mind and get things on a more "sexual" vibe level.

She was decently attracted and I know if I could isolate her I could've pulled and made something happen.... Damn it!

Here is where I failed.

Mistakes Made:

1. Broke circle- I actually didn't realize this was even important until about a month ago when I read a field report and Chase commented on Breaking circle. We were talking at one point and she was telling me something revealing about herself and her friend started banging on the table to get her attention and I broke circle first! DAH!

Not once but twice (albeit the 2nd time wasn't as pronounced)!

Worst part about it was that as I was turning my head (unconsciously) I knew I just fucked up but also knew it was too late to do anything about it.

Interesting enough I know she was attracted before this because she held circle for a good while before I turned my head meaning she wasn't breaking circle because we had something cool going on.... UGH I can't believe I fucked that up!!!!

Good lesson learned though and at least now I'm conscious of this. Looking back I've probably messed this up sooo many times and then wondered why attracted retreated.

2. Failed to move her / Invite her home- This would of been easy and something I knew I needed to do but ignored out of laziness for the most part. I should've moved her or at least screened her logistics to see if her friends would let her move with me for 30 minutes.

There were probably 5 good highpoints I could've used to transition to another "quieter part of the bar".

Once isolated I could've taken her on a quick walk outside the club and to a dark alley and gotten busy there.... ARRRRGGGHHH!!!

I'm about 90% sure she would've moved with me as well. She lived in Alabama so inviting her home with me may have been a bit more difficult (as I wouldn't have wanted to drive her an hour home).

I should've moved her about 15 minutes in when the music was loud, ramped things more sexual, and pulled her out of the club for a walk to grab "something out of my car" and then throw her up against a wall in an alley.

3. Didn't touch her legs under the table- This would have been easy to spike the interaction more and create a highpoint for me to move her. This wasn't detrimental to the interaction but I definitely could've helped a bit.

#'s 1 and 2 were definitely the biggest mistakes I made and what led me to get the dreaded "nice to meet you" as the group was leaving the club. By then it was too late to recover so I didn't press things further and went instead to meet a girl I'd hit it off with better.

So there we have it

Fucked up breaking circle (when she clearly didn't break for a good couple seconds and I caved first).

and

Failed to move/isolate her when the friends went on the dance floor.

Checked and got it!

Keep it pimpin

-Rob

 

[ray_zorse]

I told myself I was going to go out so of course my discipline brought me out.

This. I pussied out on a Friday night some weeks ago by falling asleep on the couch around 10pm (I had been daygaming hard for months but idea of N-game was a little intimidating as I remembered it)... told myself this wouldn't do. I've been out for N-game a few times a week since then. Discipline is so important.

1. Broke circle- I actually didn't realize this was even important until about a month ago

Me neither. A terrible sin that I've been committing a lot. I'm trying to do it less. Actually I wasn't bad tonight when I was gaming on the train and my kids interrupted. Although it does look a bit bad when it's your kid, hahaha. But I have been breaking circle anytime something happens in the environment, oops.

the dreaded "nice to meet you"

Don't you fucking hate that. hahahaha good call.

Ray

 

[Mr.Rob]

Just listened to Derek from RSD say this:

"if no one is ever offended with your communication its because there is no real content behind it... you haven't really conveyed any thought of any importance without offending a few people.

The people that are offended by what you have to say means that you just aren't a good fit for one another. You don't need to make friends with everybody on earth.

If you say some shit that someone doesn't like what do you lose? But if you don't convey your authentic personality around those that are not a good fit for you you never will find out if they are or not. You'll never uncover the good stuff or get high level relationships without alienating a few people on the way.

Unless you want to fit into the mass market narrative and have a low level identity, 9-5, mini van, 2.3 kids, mediocre wife on her way to obesity, be polarizing.

Every great person that had a biography written or autobiography read were polarizing people."

Checking back I think my communication has become a bit too "nice" and "agreeable" recently and I need to work on becoming more congruent and speaking what I'm thinking and feeling without hinder of offending anyone.

I'm not on earth to be friends with every fucking person that I cross paths with but create awesome authentic relationships with those that I do cross paths with that share the same interests and goals with.

Starting today I'm going to work on speaking my mind more and being more congruent to what I'm thinking despite what social consequences may arise. Think of it as a way to screen the best people in/out of my life.

By the end of July I want to have had controversy of interaction with at least 4 different times in either a small or large scale.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Quick IMPORTANT Note to self:

Just realized that I have begun to judge myself too much when out in field instead of sticking to the process and being non resistant to being blown out.

If it doesn't work out because I'm not feeling 100% yet WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT?? Get blown out, be non resistant to it, and pump your stat with each girl.

I usually do a good job of not letting this get to me but I realize I have started to judge myself and basically my own ego then will hold me back from taking action because I don't want to get judged... by myself.

The next night you plan to go out hard watch "The Truth About Success: Not being a lazy slug #2" @ 1:25:00

Keep it pimpin

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Daygame Gangsterism

Not much time here but just want to get down the lesson I learned (think it's the right lesson at least) today.

Long story short I met a girl by myself at the beach today sun tanning.

We hit it off alright but she is quite receptive and following my lead (standing up for me, allowing me to touch her, and complying).

I'm not really getting her to invest much to the conversation as I was talking and having fun keeping things light.

At what felt like an escalation window I invited her to eat dinner with me to which she declined. (perhaps too much investment to ask for?)

We are having a LOT of fun and I can tell she's enjoying herself quite fully but she will not come with me.

She talked about how she is supposed to meet some other guy out here later in which I ignore and persist for her to come.

I use a yes ladder to get her to start saying yes and then tell her were going to go hang out else where and take her hand in mine to which she clasps back and I can tell she's attracted by my dominance.

At this point I sort of start to think I might be able to make this happen.

So she starts gathering up her stuff (assumingly to leave with me) and I take a look at the book she's reading.

Now keep in mind up until this point I've used a few spikes to spike attraction (push-pull etc.) and she should be good to go. What needs to happen next is get her to invest more and build an emotional connection.

However I start reading her book and OVER fucking tease her on it and she gets a little taken aback. There is a subtle but noticeable shift in the vibe.

We start walking back and are talking about her biggest frustrations in dating. She starts telling me rather frankly and openly and then I dominant the conversation and start talking about what I think blah blah blah.... another subtle but noticeable drop in the vibe.

Get back to her car and she starts walking ahead of me which tells me she's not considering leaving with me anymore.

SHIT! Let's get this train back on track.

I engage her emotional mind and get her back in the present moment and start persisting and persuading her to come with me.

I'm fucking damn close.... mother fucking damn close to the point where she's starting to get a form of sexual frustration. I call her out on it and she agrees to it.

I cold read her and tell her she wants to come home with me but is too unsure of the circumstances and isn't used to meeting a man like me out of nowhere. She once again agrees but is firm as fuck in her decision not to leave with me.

I try and find out what her objection is but she will not give me a straight up answer (think because I othered her twice already).

I tell her I love her, and go in to makeout with her (hail mary) and she rejects me, shuts her car door and speeds off. ahaha well at least I pushed it till the bitter end.

Mistakes

1. Asking for too much investment too soon- When I asked her to come get dinner with me I think it was too big of a jump. I have got to remember to baby step the interaction and gain smaller and smaller pieces of investment before closing.

2. Over spiking the interaction (too much PUSH) when not needed- This was probably the biggest mistake. She was already attracted at this point thus spiking the interaction for attraction served no purpose and pushed her a bit into auto rejection.

This also "othered" her in building an emotional connection.

Totally unnecessary!!!! FUCK

3. Missed the deep dive window- On the walk back to her car I asked her what her biggest frustration with dating was and she gave two great opportunities to deep dive and I totally blew past them and started talking about my own shit.

ARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!

This sent her further into auto-rejection.

Sometimes I get so wrapped up in having fun and pumping my state that I forget to slow down and pay attention to the girl and where I am at in the seduction and thinking about what subtle but powerful thing needs to happen next.

Keep it pimpin

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Just got back from some day game action at the beach.

3 most significant interactions:

1. Girl with her mom suntanning on the beach. I approached her and told her I wanted to marry her in a super gamey fashion and she ate it up pretty well.

Problem I keep running into with the moms is frame control. I always get the mom asking me 20 fucking questions and I typically answer and then revert straight back to the girl but I notice that when I do this the girl sort of starts to lose attraction a bit.

One because I'm getting frame controlled by her mom and she knows I didn't come over to trade small talk with the mom. Two because it's somewhat impersonal.

I think a balance can be achieved and I've seen in the past if I can out frame the mom in a socially savvy way then I receive mega attraction from both parties and I get the girl. Interesting to play around with possibly.

Anyway I ask the mom if I can take her daughter on a walk and she tells me I can if her daughter is up for it and she complies.

We start walking and talking.

I wanted to take her hand but I felt awkward doing it in front of the mom so I decided not to do so. <--------------- THIS
*Do what YOU want to do and FUCK the mom
She was fat and couldn't have caught us anyway. Plus it would've been polarizing and would've ramped up attraction from my girl.

So we walk and talk about platonic impersonal shit for the most part.

At one point I had her hand and I was playing with it and talking to her. I could see a spark of attraction building possibly but I didn't keep the momentum going.

I should have pulled her into me and physically escalated with her and tried to be playfully sexual.

If she doesn't like it oh well she can walk back by herself no harm, no foul.

This ended with her not contributing much (I failed to get her qualifying herself and having fun with me) so I didn't push things too much. Dropped the ball in the beginning and better to find a girl more into me than beat a dead horse.

Our conversation ended with her bringing up Jesus and religion so I knew at that point I was fucked and best to get out while the gettings good. I knew she was sexual and down for the cause so when she brought up religion I knew I was in friend/provider land.

Lesson Learned: Better to polarize and risk rejection than play it safe and get dick.
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2. This was a pretty badass approach.

I'm walking down the beach and notice a sexy Asian ass walking the opposite way further away from the water where I was walking.

I cruise over to her and she's talking to this guy and girl sitting under an umbrella.

I go up to her and "You!". Get her full attention. "I love you.."

High risk, high reward here because it's in front of her friends and there's a lot of people around.

She's receptive and is cool with it all. Her friends are impressed.

We start chatting playfully. She mentions she's from Chicago and I break circle and look at the friends underneath the umbrella and engage them. She drifts off a bit.

Boom lost it. She's not contributing as much and is more flighty. The friend soon comes to take her to the bathroom and I let her go.

Lesson learned: If you go in decisive and after what you want why would you take your eyes off what you're going after? It's almost incongruent and shows a misplacement of intent.

Don't break circle first!
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3. Cute black girl on the beach with her mom, her friend, and her friends mom.

Opened her by complimenting her sun hat. Something nice and chill to see where the vibe is at and what her by in temperature.

Turns out it's not to bad so I'm going to roll with this.

We banter a bit back and forth and the mom compliments me and tells me I'm cute. I respond with "i know but thank you"

A bit arrogant but these black women eat it up.

One of these black moms has solid frame control and trying to find out all about me and gets me off track for a second but then a break hits. I start slowly ignoring the mom and reverting my conversation and eye contact to the girl I'm interested in.

At one point some dude nearby with a huge sombrero says some shit and I don't break circle and keep eye contact with me girl. This works and she asks why I'm not looking at the person that is talking to me. I tell her because I came over here to talk to her.

I get a silent applaud from all the black women and I then have a conversation with the girl I'm interested in.

*(quick note on the guy that interjected: When he said his shit to me I instinctively wanted to answer him and be cool with him but that would've TOTALLY derailed this shit. Like I don't want him to feel like a chode and feel bad for cutting him off but I know it's going to fuck me up.

This is something I'm going to have to embrace more. Can't be afraid to cut a mother fucker down if they are getting in the way of what I want. It's the spirit of competition. There is a winner and a loser. Communism doesn't work.

I like to liken it to a NAVY aircraft carrier going full speed ahead to proceed towards their mission goal. If a dinky little fishing boat gets in the way of the aircraft carrier barreling through the little fishing boat has two options
1. Get the fuck out of the way
2. Get run over
There is zero chance that the aircraft carrier is going to slow the boat down, change direction, and derail their progress to save the little fishing boat that should be out of the way to begin with. It's not that the aircraft carrier doesn't like fishing boats but the fishing boat shouldn't have gotten in its way and the aircraft carrier has boundaries in place to not let anything compromise progress to completing the mission.

Perhaps that is an intense metaphor and I do not want to link seduction to "completing the mission" but in relation to guys getting in the way one must not be scared to cut them down if necessary.)

Anyway I take this girl on a walk and she gladly accompanies me.

Here I made a few mistakes:

1. Talked too much

2. Failed to get her investing and qualifying herself in conversation

3. Did not show enough sexual intent (got onto more provider grounds than lover... well closer to provider for me at least. I don't think I typically exude the provider vibe)

4. Let the mom control the frame on the way back: This woman was asking me all sorts of personal question about me and treating me in a sort of childish manner. I failed her shit test and lost the deal.

This woman was going deep into frame control and had no reason to ask so many question. She wasn't the girls mom and was being rather nosy and derailing me from my shit.

It's ridiculous now that I think about it that moms or other related people try to do this and it always feels like a test now that I think about it.

I think controlling the frame in a positive socially suave way without bowing to the moms frame control would really ramp attraction at best and at worst keep me on track with my goal.

 

[Mr.Rob]

This is my first report back since I took a break from women for a while.

Tonight I went out by myself to the local college bar (I'm back at university) since all my friends had limp dicks (one was too afraid to ask permission from his girlfriend to come out... Shaking my head).

Had a decent night mingling it up out there.

I think I approached about 6 or 7 girls. Out of that I think only 2 hooked but one of them got dragged away and the other was drunk and wouldn't continue to comply to my lead.

Same format as previous reports: 3 Most significant interactions breaking down what exactly happened, where I lost the girl/what I should have done to prevent it (otherwise I'd be writing a lay report), note on anything I did well to replicate in the future, and the main lesson I took from it.

Here we go!
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1. 50 Shades Girl: Standing at bar I see a cute brunette/dirty blonde hair dancing with some friends looking around a bit. She pulls her cell phone out and looks at it.

One thing I really liked that I did in this situation was I immediately approached when I saw A) what I liked and B) a potential approach invitation.

Another thing I liked that I did in this situation was that I got really physical within the first 30 seconds of meeting her and pulled her into me. She invested in this as well.

She has two friends around her and I move her to the bar without them interfering at all. She jokes and tells me her name is Maple and reveals it actually her stripper name.

I joke around with this for a second and then tell her my name.

I still have her pulled into me and I'm looking her deep in the eyes sexually and dominantly. I inquire on her age and she tests me by telling me that I'm probably 18 and a freshman.

I tell her that I am under age and that she probably just likes taking the virginities of young boys.

She laughs and agrees jokingly. I inquire further on how many dudes virginities she's taken and she goes on to talk for a second about it but (Mistake #1) I either didn't expand on her thread or the music was too loud.

This would have been a great way to transition into sex talk and attempt to get her horny.

Instead she turned the subject back on the story of me "being a virgin freshman" (which by my nonverbals I clearly was not) and (Mistake #2) I played into the joke because I thought it was sort of funny. However in retrospect I would have liked to have kept that thread moving and seek to deep dive her about sexual topics.

There were a few points where she would stop hanging onto me physically and turn. Somewhat losing interest. I played things cool but I think this means I didn't keep her investing and chasing enough.

She kept telling me I was 50 Shades of Grey (quite a compliment, at least for a drunk 19 year old college girl). I remember she said that and I asked into her ear "and does that sexually frustrate you or annoy you".... WTF???

I don't know what I said that but that was a small mistake in itself as I didn't frame either option in a positive manner. Plus the options weren't optimal.

If I could say it over again I would say "and does that arouse you or make you wish I was a millionaire?"

Next she kept demanding I buy her a drink and I told her that I knew a place around the corner that serves the cheapest drinks and has way better music and if she behaves her self I'll take her there.

This flipflopped for a bit. I tried to move her again and she kept declining. I kept perisisting and she kept declining and then went back to her friends (who she refused to introduce me to).

Main Lesson: I think the main issue here is that I didn't get her investing into the conversation enough. Ideally if I could do it over again I would have deep dived her on sexual fantasies since she was more than baited to go down that path. Ideally getting her aroused. Next I would have moved her outside to get to know her better or if it was really on just take her back to my car and shag her there.

2. Booty Shorts Blonde: This girl was walking past me when she sort of stopped for a second right next to me and I commented "It looks like your friends are leaving you". She didn't politely leave after I said this dumb line.

*Note: It was a bad opener because it was more of a "push" than a "welcome!"

I immediately take her hand and ask her "Are you single?"

She hesitates for a moment, looks down, and says "No I'm not, really... kinda seeing someone but it's a casual blah blah" <--- Actually a good reply here since she went to the effort to qualify why.

I cut her thread with "cool what's your name?"

We trade names I think there was a spark of attraction but social pressure from her friends expecting her to come made her want to go towards them.

I ran after her but by the time I got past a few people she was with her friend and the dude had his arm protectively around her.

I sort of choded out a bit and didn't go in.

Lesson: Not really a lesson but I would have liked to talk to her while the dude had her arm around her just to see what I could get away with and push it.


3. Cute Jeans Girl: She was the only girl in the club with jeans on. Very nice positive fun vibe and cute body.

I walk up on her and she was sort of with a guy but he wasn't talking to her and was off to the side a bit.

I give solid eye contact and give up my hand for a high five/hand hold. She goes for it immediately and says "I'm Heather! Nice to meet you!" in an energetic way without me saying anything.

We exchange names and I say "Your actually cool!" (just met a hot but socially dumb girl who wouldn't accept my hand to shake and had the "too cool" vibe) and I think I give her a hug (possible mistake since I think I prompted the dude with her to get protective).

She says "Yeah haha I'm not like all the sorority girls I'm nice!"

I tell her that some of the girls here lack social acuity and not as much fun. <--- Slight mistake here since I didn't relate it back to her with "always a pleasure to meet someone that has a bit of social grace" to show her I get the social matrix.

I can't tell if she's attracted or if she was just very social but I'm pretty sure she was attracted.

At this point the guy starts to drag her away (shouldn't have gotten physical) but she keeps eye contact with me and not him.

I grab her by the arm in which she slows down, still maintaining eye contact with me, thus slowing the guys progress away from me down. I tell her jokingly to kiss me. She looks around and says she can't (didn't get the joke all the way/not funny lol).

If I could do over again: For one I would have refrained from being physical. When opening girls in mixed groups like that it's always wise to not go in too hard to not alarm wanna be suitors to white knight.

Also I actually liked this girl and would have been more than happy to talk and get to know her a bit and was not happy with the would be suitor dragging her away.

I wonder what would have happened if I told her "I want to get to know you" then immediately address the want to be suitor with "AYE! What are you doing? I came over to brighten her day and have some fun and you get jealous and go to protect her. Your lame! Get out of here this is my girl."

Or something along those lines.

Got done listening to a Derek Mastermind podcast in which he talked about going into different extreme situations and really being obnoxious and highly polarizing. I want to start honing those behaviors and attitudes into my character more since that is something that I really desire as being a man fully expressing himself. I think it will be congruent to my personality when I put my own twist on it.

A few Generalalities

By myself downtown is easier than by myself at the college bars. Girls have smaller attention spans and more stimulus from friends and people by the seems of things.
I would like to have been interacting a bit more than I was since a lot of my interactions were short tonight.

It seems a lot of college bar game has to do with status and social proof (everyone is worried about that bullshit) which makes it harder to be the interesting, rogue, loning it at the bar. It's a lot more social circle from what I can tell.

Which means if I'm not in set I have no social proof, which means I have access to a lot smaller pool of women to pull from if they see me.

However a few are attracted by my nature intrigue I think it would be a lot easier if I had more social proof/circle.

Will have to create one as the year goes on and play around with this.

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Just approached a very adorable girl on campus.

I opened indirectly but with solid fundamentals and a "direct" intent through my body language.

As we walked/talked I moved things more "romantic", if you will, and more flirtatious.

She bought in and played along which gave me the green light.

I broke the touch barrier by touching her upper arm while saying something.

I asked about her and she told me "I'm from Rhode Island" however I heard it as "I grew up in violence".

I told her I misinterpreted and said "Well I was about say you poor thing" and touched her face with the back of my hand. <---------- Attraction spiked WELL when I did this. Try to replicate.

I kept walking with her, got her number, and set up a date.

Sent ice breaker which she responded to. Lets see what happens.

One thing I'd do different next time: If I could do this over again I wouldn't have walked with her as it was a bit chasing the way I did it since I knew I didn't want to go the way she was going, thus wasting my time. It would have been more fun to pull her into an air conditioned shop nearby where we left (get her following my lead) and then close there.

Keep it pimpin

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Just got back out from a little night game action.

I approached 3 girls, first two blew me off, and the last one was a hooking keeper.

Everything went pretty amazing and straight forward so I decided to go for the pull.

She gave some token resistance but I didn't think much of it so I kept persisting.

Her objections were as follows:

1. I have to wake up early
2. You might be a crazy stranger
3. I'm not going to hook up with you
4. I don't know but I just can't

I was able to handle all of these objections except for #4. She resisted me taking her out of the venue forever, but I managed to do that. Then lead her to my car where she agreed to come with me but then objected and said she wasn't.

I compromised and told her I would just drop her off at her house to which she was happy with, so she went to go tell her friend she was going to do that which I think was mistake #1.

Mistake #1: Don't let her go back to her friend... especially not alone. There was no reason for it. Her friend was already cool with her going home with me and she did it because she internally was torn between going home with me and whatever her real objection was so she bought herself some time to reconcile it with herself and make her mind up that she wasn't going to go home with me.

She came back and told me she had changed her mind for the 10th fucking time and wasn't going to come with me anymore.

What I Would Do Different

1. I would have addressed her Slut Defense as that is what I would bet was eating at her. I failed to address my views on female sexuality at all during the interaction.

2. If nothing then I would have started escalating in my car, turned her on to the point where she logically had no choice but to let me fulfil her lust and then we go home (or stay in car) and shag and both have an amazing night.

Some things I did well however included:

1. Not letting dumbass dudes trying to derail my shit throw me off. Handled a guy try to cockblock pretty hard very well by being no reactionary and commanding him dominantly to let go of my hand. (I gave him my hand to shake and he wouldn't let go of it so I didn't look at him and commanded him to let go of my hand in which he complied)

2. Persisting and being a HARD closer to the very end. There were 3 points in time where she had her arms crossed and gave me a solid NO that she wasn't going to come home with me and I was able to turn her around each time.

3. Being very comfortable to the point of getting her to feel like she had known me for years and reveal to me some things that she never talks about with people.

Keep it pimpin,

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Just to add too my most recent FR+ aforementioned.

I never moved my girl prior to seeding the pull which I think might have had a lot to do with all the resistance she put up initially.

I think if I would have got her to follow my lead and invest more it would have reduced the amount of resistance I was getting since it would just be another step for her to follow my lead more.

The more Yes's you get the more you will likely receive right? Maybe not all the time but I think it would've been a big help in getting this interaction blooming better.

MOVE

LEAD

Keep it pimpin

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Tonight pretty much sucked as far as execution is concerned.

I'm quite sleep deprived but I made the decision to go out anyway.

The core reason I sucked tonight is because I did not try.

I half assed just about every approach. I had a very non edgy vibe. Super average conversation and did not feel as boss as I have the past 4 days.

I still went out and talked to 10 girls or more with my wing but it was just majorly lack of trying.

That's cool everyone is entitled to a bad night, thus I'm not going to break down what went wrong with 3 most significant interactions but instead I am going to take a step back to look at why this happened, and why I failed to execute.
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Approach anxiety was not an issue.

Energy was. My energy was super lagging and it was hard to focus. My attitude in going out was not to have fun but really just go out because I'm committed.

I really didn't want to get laid tonight. I would have if it would have been easy but I really wasn't too interested in getting a girl to hook.

My energy/willpower/motivation was down for two reasons:
1. Ate a carbed up ridiculously bullshit diet today for lunch (2 hours of sleep last night so willpower was low + tempting bullshit in the fridge to eat).
2. Not enough sleep (all I wanted was to go home and sleep... here I am still up writing this shit)
3. Lack of motivation idk perhaps my sex drive wasn't up to par for the aforementioned reasons.

I'm not going to focus too much on it. I'm going to get a full night sleep. Eat clean tomorrow and go out tomorrow night in which we will see what happens on that end of things.

If this happens again tomorrow then we have a problem.

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Just got done getting my nightgame on.

Tonight went much better than last night as far as taking action is concerned.

The only thing I suffered from was being a bit apathetic and not really WANTING it enough. I feel like if my sex drive were higher this issue wouldn't occur as much. Nonetheless I pushed this shit and didn't make excuses.

It was raining and bad weather for the most part tonight and idk if it was coincidence or bad luck but girls were really mean/bitchy tonight. I had one girl try and push me rather hard out of the way from her friend haha. Whatever girls are silly

1. Red Aloof Asian- This girl had a red dress on, tan nice legs, and a sort of enigmatic swagger to her. She was walking with her friend and I went and told her I find her quite attractive with strong eye contact. She pretty much dismissed me and kept moving along. I tussled back in front of her and told her I really love her dress and ask her name. She gave me her name and I gave her mine. She was very unreceptive. This all happened so fast I can hardly remember what I said but I persisted in some form and fashion and she got attracted for a second and said "okay we'll go".

Here she start heading off towards a bar (mistake). Here I should've told her the game plan for where we're going and had her come follow me. Basically she was leading...

Long story short she ends up going to the bar across the street and knows the bartender who immediately ask her if she wants to sit in his seat and asks if he needs to fend of the creepers (me haha).

So yeah failed to be proactive and take the lead.

2. "Strangers in the Night" girl- This girl was walking with her friend towards my wingman and I down the street. I stop her and open her. She sort of blows me off a bit but I persist and make a funny self deprecating joke that breaks her out of autopilot. She isn't stopping so I walk with her down the street here is our conversation:

Me: Yeah I really want to propose to you
Her: Okay your all talk lets see some action
Me: It's a little too wet out here but I tell you what how about we dance instead.
Her: I think your full of shit
Me: (Take her by the hand and lead her into me pretending to dance for a second to which she starts giggling).

Then we start walking again for them to meet up with more friends.

She's mildly invested and not really attracted much.

They meet up with the friends and it got into that territory when you've just met a girl and they meet up with friends and it's like super easy for them to ignore you and then leave your ass without saying a word (which in all fairness is just a lack to lead).

She talks with the friends and they agree to meet back up at xyz bar in 5 minutes.

So it's back to my girl and her friend who my wings talking to.

We start bantering about dancing again and I think I inquire on her dancing abilities.

She says she would love to dance as long as I have good music. I pull her into me close, interlock my hand into hers, and start humming "Strangers in the Night" by Frank Sinatra.

She's loving it, but her not so attractive friend interrupted shit and informs us that that's enough and that they need to go meet their friends at the other bar.

I come along with her and tell her to take me with her to which her response is "Okay cool!"

So I give me arm for her to interlace with hers but she declines it (bad form on her part). We get to the bar and there are two lines to get in. One with one person in it and another with no one in it (in which I don't realize is an entry) so I stand behind the guy in line with her. Here she spots the opening, ditches me completely, and goes inside. I shout at her to wait a second for me to get my band but she kicks rocks and goes inside eager to meet her friends.

In retrospect this girl wasn't massively into me at all, I was just offering fun/value in the meantime while she was really waiting to go to the country bar and hang out with her friends which I could tell was where her focus was.

If I could do it over again: I would definitely have led her by the small of her back to the door of the bar and been more observant to the opening spot at the door. There I would've gone first (so she couldn't run away) and then gotten her to introduce me to her friends as if I'd known her forever.

****NOTE: Good idea I just come up with about going into the venue first with a girl you just met that may run off quickly to buy time with a girl that's not uber on you yet.

3. Creepy Touch Girl- This girl I saw was sort of stifled and in her head a bit on the dance floor. I really liked her look and immediately went up to go talk to her. My initial gameplan was to be super sexy and preopen her to get her to look at my eyes and then slowly look up with a sexy smile to greet her attention.

Well the plan did not get executed as desired lol...

I went up to her without making eye contact somewhat looking down towards her dress she had on. I then take my fingers and sort of gently trace her forearm. I see her look up and I'm looking at my hand touching her arm (MISTAKE = Looking at where I'm touching her) to which she is sort of interested for a second and then creeped out and blows me out without a second thought.

For preopening it seems like I have trouble knowing where to look before making eye contact with her. I think for next time I'm going to try and look at her face but not her eyes and then once I see her lock on I'll make eye contact and smile.

As option 2 I would look off into space adjacent to where her face is, thus not looking at her body directly at all and then making easier less creepy eye contact with her.

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As a wrap one thing I've noticed I've gotten much better at is seeing what I want, not deliberating, and going straight after what I want "shooting from the hip".

I want to keep this up.

Also I want to start looking into ways to up my sex drive up some more and see if I can't get a little more drive to push this shit more.

I'm tired as shit and need sleep I'm out!

Keep it pimpin

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

After last week I was so grounded, in my own awesome reality, and irreverent that I was a walking god. Or at least I felt as if.

Last night however I felt a little less grounded and more stifled... in other words back to normal state of life.
This isn't a big deal and I know it should just be part of the natural yin and yang of life but damn I would love to feel the other way perpetually.

Only had one interaction from last night that went somewhere, and it was with a girl that I wasn't uber attracted to or cared for all too much.

More or less a good option available if I decided I wanted for the taking.

Last night was kind of a "Meh" night. Meh in that I didn't really go to hard or over try to make some shit happen more or less going with the flow. There is nothing wrong with these types of nights and can actually be good as long as you dominantly move things along when opportunities present themselves.

No real report to write about except for two small interactions.

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1. Princessy bitchy girl- I'm not typically one to complain about these types of girls but I couldn't find a way to throw her off her pedestal she put herself on and it frustrated me that I got tooled by this silly little girl. Haha

So it was my first interaction of the night and I wasn't feeling particularly on yet.

These 3 girls came and sat down near my wing and I. He approached the one on the far side and I observed for a second before approaching the girl closer to me.

I opened up regular conversation and they start whispering to themselves and laughing clearly at me like they are far far superior.

This girl literally starts laughing to the point where a tear drops down her eye. I'm at a loss for words for a bit.

Their frame is "God we get approached by sooooo many guys and they're all lame and supplicative. We're the prize and obviously better than them all!"

And my frame is "Just want to be social and meet a few people to see if they're cool. Maybe I'll find someone I like and if they act right I will bring them into my world."

My frame should always be the stronger frame and by these girls acting like I wasn't there and joking about me in front of my face that was a really socially awkward thing to do.

Here's a guy pretty chill just making conversation and being friendly AT A SOCIAL VENUE... and then you're going to automatically think he's chasing you and will say/do anything to get with you, then make fun of him like he's not there.

Pretty socially unsuave and weird if you ask me. They assessed my value incorrectly and didn't realize I'm not going to take their ultimate test.

Here is my response: "You know I just came over to see if yall are cool. I'm not trying to go fuck you. You don't have to like me that's cool but your being socially awkward just makes me wonder if you were homeschooled or mentally handicapped or something."

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Lastly the BIGGEST thing I fucked up on last night was missing a SOLID SOLID SOLID approach invitation. Did I mention how SOLID it was.

This girl, who in my opinion was probably one of the sexiest girls I saw tonight walked past on her way to the bathroom and eyed me hard ONCE and then double took again back at me where our eyes locked for second.

I figured I'd approach her on the way out.

When she came out I was too slow to go approach (no excuse) and they ventured back into the crowd where I figured I'd go approach her later in the night. Well later in the night never came.

Lesson: In that case go approach her as soon as you see her, ideally before she has time to get past you so you can put in the least amount of effort.

-Rob

 

[Lotus]

1. Princessy bitchy girl- I'm not typically one to complain about these types of girls but I couldn't find a way to throw her off her pedestal she put herself on and it frustrated me that I got tooled by this silly little girl. Haha

So it was my first interaction of the night and I wasn't feeling particularly on yet.

These 3 girls came and sat down near my wing and I. He approached the one on the far side and I observed for a second before approaching the girl closer to me.

I opened up regular conversation and they start whispering to themselves and laughing clearly at me like they are far far superior.

This girl literally starts laughing to the point where a tear drops down her eye. I'm at a loss for words for a bit.

Their frame is "God we get approached by sooooo many guys and they're all lame and supplicative. We're the prize and obviously better than them all!"

And my frame is "Just want to be social and meet a few people to see if they're cool. Maybe I'll find someone I like and if they act right I will bring them into my world."

My frame should always be the stronger frame and by these girls acting like I wasn't there and joking about me in front of my face that was a really socially awkward thing to do.

Here's a guy pretty chill just making conversation and being friendly AT A SOCIAL VENUE... and then you're going to automatically think he's chasing you and will say/do anything to get with you, then make fun of him like he's not there.

Pretty socially unsuave and weird if you ask me. They assessed my value incorrectly and didn't realize I'm not going to take their ultimate test.

Here is my response: "You know I just came over to see if yall are cool. I'm not trying to go fuck you. You don't have to like me that's cool but your being socially awkward just makes me wonder if you were homeschooled or mentally handicapped or something."

How did she take it? or did you just eject and move on without looking back?

Normally, I just ignore stuff like this but I'm curious because being able to out frame anyone when this happens would be REALLY helpful to have in the toolbox.

Do you think there would have been a way to reframe it looking back at the situation?

 

[Mr.Rob]

How did she take it? or did you just eject and move on without looking back?

Normally, I just ignore stuff like this but I'm curious because being able to out frame anyone when this happens would be REALLY helpful to have in the toolbox. Do you think there would have been a way to reframe it looking back at the situation?

Oh I must clarify that I did not actually say that but that's what I would have said in retrospect.

What really happened was that I just gave solid eye contact and an expression of "what are you doing". I ended up blowing myself out in the end and sort of going cold on them (auto reject haha).

Idk why I cared so much about some petty shit like that but I do get enjoyment out of being able to outframe girls out of that dumb mindset and come out on top even if I don't get the girl but just get her to be like "Oh shit this guys actually cool, wow I'm sorry" because then my ego feels cool.

That's why I wrote what I "would have" said.

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Quick Daygame report from on campus today.

Got stuck in my head a bit when I first rolled up on campus.

Saw one girl I would have approached but didn't and built excuse making momentum until it started to eat at me and cause inner turmoil for not taking action until I finally approached a pretty cute one.

I write my thought process because for one I think it could be slightly unhealthy but at the same time quite preventable via taking action and living in truth with myself.

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Report:

Okay so this girl was initially unsettled upon first approaching her and looked as if she was about to reject me out of fear of the unknown.

I kept a solid frame and her unsettledness slowly ceased as my grounded and ease of vibe slowly bathed her.

We had a good vibe and she was digging it just having easygoing chode and vanilla conversation for the most part.

She told me she had a boyfriend and I told her that's cool and switched the subject.

I liked our vibe so at a point in the conversation I tell her we should grab a cup of coffee sometime soon. She says "A cup of coffee??" and proceeds to look down and bite her lip in thought of my proposal.

"Or we could study, in fact you can help me learn my marketing and I'll give you the answers to all the classes I've already taken that you're in"

Basically start having fun with it. She starts enjoying the good vibe for a second and just about says yes and decides to meet up until...

I say "We make a good team" or something along the lines as framing each other being together in a longer term sense (not long term relationship but longer term than saying "hi" and "bye").

This makes her plunge over into the "NO" side of things because she wanted to stay loyal to her boyfriend for reasons of not looking slutty or what have you.

I know I'm a better option.

I give her a hug and tell her "I love you" which she finds awesome and funny.

In the end I didn't push for it since she shut down more when I framed us both together too overtly.

If I could do over again
If I could do this over again I would keep from framing us as being with one another for anything other than "We are going to do xyz".

Also I would turn up the FUN factor and seek to get into a more joking around, but sexy/edgy, vibe going since she appeared to be digging it.

Remember that women go where the high value emotions go. Thus having fun with the girl to the point where it's not something she frequently gets to feel will get her emotional brain ON and logical brain OFF to the point where she will allow herself to go with me, choose the better option, and not be logical and judge herself for doing what she wants to do in the first place.

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Another quick note on an interaction I had with a girl today in Publix.

This girl I talked to indirect. I was definitely hiding the banana and she knew it. She was receptive with her reactions but not her actions (she didn't ask any questions or try to qualify herself).

The note I want to get down here is that if a girl's not into you, that's cool. You don't have to have every girl like you, and you're better served going around the corner and approaching another girl that's going to LOVE you.

Also note not to hide the banana... be polarizing. Find a way.

Keep it pimpin

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

#1. "I'm a Virgin" Girl- This girl I met and was instantly into me. (She was by herself and looking for friends when I saw her). I moved her very early into meeting her and she complied.

We talk at the bar, dance, do some spins and whatnot. Then we quite down for a second and the conversation was really not fun the whole time. The vibe was good/fun but the conversation was just chode/plain/boring. Talking about school, where were from, and trifle shit of that nature.

After a moment she just jets off out of nowhere and I figure she's just flighty but she turns around motions for me to come over to her. She's in a very dancing mood.

I then lead her slightly onto the dance floor, I'm holding hands with her but I get lost for a second all the people in the way and then she starts leading me to the dance floor. I would've rather this have gone smoother and me lead strongly the whole time.

We dance for a bit and have some fun. Then a song comes on that you're supposed to move "to the right, to the right, to the right, to the right, to the left" and I'm not down for following the rules so I just dance to the beat with her and grind her. We're the only people in the whole club not dancing to the right, to the right, to the left, to the left, and I think she doesn't like being "that girl" hahah.

So she dips out to a quiter room nearby and I follow her (which I don't like again).

Here I sort of fuck up the conversation by not really leading the conversation that well. Talked about some random shit that I find funny but it was a bit sacreligious and weird and pushed her away a bit. She then told me she is a "virgin" which I knew was a lie.

Things sort of dropped off from here.

If I could do this over again: I would have taken her to sit down in the quieter area of the bar and refrained from obnoxious weird conversation. Not so much that the content was bad but my vibe was like "scratching for some shit to say" and I had a bit of trouble keeping things flowing.

Conversationally I would've done things different by setting light sexual frames and maybe playing "fuck, marry, kill" or something like that.

She was into me but I lost her PUSHing her away with bad conversation and poor leading of conversation (throwing shit at the wall hoping it will stick).

2. Tassle Shirt Girl- Met this girl as she and her friends were walking out of a street with bars on it. She was cool and receptive enough but her friends were going to a different bar. She invited me to come with but I had to get my buddy so I told her to stay with me and I'd bring her to Aero as soon as we get my friend. She is on the fence but doesn't want to leave her friends because she's never been to Orlando before and doesn't know much about the city.

I persist and she ultimately decides to go with her friends but tells me to meet her there.

Eventually we end up going to the same place they were at and I see her again and reopen her.

Me: There she is!
Her: hey you made it!
Me: Yeah my buddy and I came over this way anyway and thought it would be a good idea to see if you were still here (Whoops dropped the beans)
Her: Haha cool, We were just dancing it up in the corner here.
Me: Oh that's awesome (some bullshit of that nature)

Then we smell weed and she remarks on it. Then some dude standing nearby says some lame weed comment and she tells him some shit back and is indifferent.

At this point I've lost everything and it's almost too late to reingage her.

My mistake was the second sentence of conversation.

My 2nd mistake was letting her not be focused on me. ME!

To avoid this in the future it's best to avoid dumbass small talk and just get straight into nonsensical FUN/SEXY talk.

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There were a few more interactions but I'm getting sicker by the second and I need to drive home haha.

Overall my execution was not terrible. I would've liked to have had a few longer interactions. I would have liked to have persisted a bit more in a few cases and tried to push past some interaction barriers.

But I did a good job approaching girls I wanted to approach. I did a good job persisting in a few other areas as well.

I just realized how tired/sick I feel and I'm over and out.

Keep it pimpin

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Failed Date Escalation Report from 10/7/15

I think I need a new strategy for escalating once I get home.

In this report I will mainly detail what happened once I pulled her home since everything was mostly smooth until then. However I will recap and point out a few small mistakes that I made on the way pulling her to my house.
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Pre-Pull

This was a different type of date than I would normally have. It was designed to kill two birds with one stone and be more of an adventure than the typical "get coffee" date. I met this girl and went to pitch a health/fitness event to different health companies in my city (something I had to do anyway). I made my date my sidekick and we would rock up into these places together her carrying the material and me hadling the social aspect and pitching. We ended up only pitching one business but it was successful.

This girl was noticably nervous when I met her and made it obvious she liked me. There were a few points in conversation that I said some stupid purposeless things about myself and quickly changed the subject and moved on. I deep dove her on generalities but not going too deep on anything. We had a bit of fun in the car ranting about different things.

At one point she said she is a feminist (I don't particularly agree with most feminist views) and I made a comment like "uh oh we're going to have a love hate relationship now" and borderlined "othered" her but I saved it by saying "but that makes things more exciting".
In retrospect I would liked to have handled that differently by not placing any weight on what she said and instead just ignoring that fact (don't reward bad behavior) and changing the subject.

We ultimately end up going to a little ice cream place where she buys an ice cream for us. I did not reward her properly. I should have rewarded her by thanking her and physically touching her back and pulling her into me.

We talk about random shit while eating ice cream and I start feeling an escalation window to kiss her. Of course I want to wait for the perfect moment (ugh) and it almost passes for a minute but I course correct and then say
"your so cute" and just go in to kiss her. She says "Thank you".

I'm thinking I'm golden right now. I soon get her to come with me and we head to my house with the excuse of "I'm going to drop some stuff off real quick and it's on the way".

Two Things that Need Be Pointed Out From Ice Cream Shop Interaction

1. I showed too much vulnerability in a way I deem lame for a first encounter. What happened was I asked her the last time she cried in an sly attempt to tell her that I haven't cried for over 10 years and sort of qualify myself and show emotion by telling her how I wish I could cry. This might have been okay if she brought the subject up naturally and it was relevant but in retrospect that was lame conversation piece for me to bring up and it had a lame ulterior motive to broach in the first place.

I want to be an ICY Pimp / Edgy and Playful Asshole vibe not some emotional man that wishes he could cry.... what the fuck? I can't believe I talked about that.

2. There was a golden opportunity to introduce sex talk and my views on sexuality and I let it pass by. Here we got to talking about relationships and that the last relationship I was in was open and I had one main girl and saw other women on the side. She inquired on it a bit but she was definitely open minded to going down that route I just didn't take it there out of FEAR of losing the girl.... Must be willing to lose the girl.

The Pull

Here's what happened. We got to my house and I still had the frame of "we're just dropping some shit off real quick". We went inside, put up my one tiny thing I brought, and decided to make tea. The whole time their is this unspoken vibe of "okay is a move going to be made?". She didn't appear to be anticipating anything or hoping I would.

We get tea made on go back into my room to listen to music while we drink our tea.

I tell her about my room and a few odd things and she shows me the music she listens to.

We listen and talk. The vibe is rather unexciting and conversation borderline platonic although she is still into it. I notice that she still has her shoes on, is close to the door, and will not sit in my lap. She does not feel totally comfortable.

I wait too long to go for the kiss (once again I was waiting for the opportune moment which we know never comes). She goes to the bathroom and comes back. I proactively get her to get physical by asking her how my stuble feels and put my face up against hers. She is neutral towards this move.

I tell her to tell me what she likes about me most. She tells me my eyes and give a impersonal reason for liking them.

I tell her she's adorable and go for the kiss albeit rather weakly (hard to kiss a closed off girl). She shies away and I can feel that the vibe has come to a total and utter fall out. Platonic city...

What I would do Differently
Okay this is starting to piss me off. I have lost so many girls from this it seems like and I often have these issues of escalation when I get back to my place. It seems like I go through the same routine everytime as well.

Bring girl home --> make drink of sort --> bring girl to room and put on music --> listen to music and talk about non sexual shit and wait for an opportune moment to kiss --> Opportune moment does not come and then I realize it and try to make something happen but by then the escalation window is gone

Perhaps a rule of thumb if I pull but their is a lack of sexual tension is to make a move soon even if it's awkward as soon as possible rather than waiting to

New rule of thumb for pulling back to my place = Make a move soon rather than trying to create a better moment in the future or hoping it will magically change.

One big thing I noticed from last night is that I allow conversation to be unsexual after pulling back.

Two Things I want to Work on when I pull and escalate

1. Steer conversation more sexual and personal- This means instead of talking about music or some platonic shit make more personal comments such as "you smell so amazing", "I really like your eye contact, why are you looking at me like that?", "I love how enticing your eyes are, what is your favorite thing about me?".

Something to get off the ground with at least.

2. Get physical and be a tad bit more aggressive- Watch Liam McRae's Rapid Escalation Speech as a refresher the next time you go on a date https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Z4Nq0OrrM.

As a few side points don't forget to...

-Take your and her shoes off at the door (make it a rule).

-Try interrupting your escalation routine pattern by bouncing the girl to the couch and escalating there rather than going back to your room so fast. If she's not totally fucking horny don't be scared to hit the couch and get cozy first. Interrupt your pattern by doing something different and being more aggressive in your escalation there.