Rob's Nightgame Gangsterism

[ray_zorse]

I reckon in setting up the pre-escalation vibe you probably don't need to do much, just talk a lot less and look into her eyes a lot more, the rest (slightly closed eyelids, sexual smile and so on) is probably just icing on the cake, but u should obviously read some articles about the sexual vibe... anyway it's something I often forget to do, but when I do it I'm always struck by how easy / simple it is. So just do it As to this bitch she probably didn't deserve your cock, so fuck it. But a problem you might have run into is not having established enough compliance to be able to escalate successfully.
Ray

 

[Mr.Rob]

just talk a lot less and look into her eyes a lot more,

Yeah I do that naturally as it is, I think I get hung up by keeping the conversation very non sexual on the surface level.

I think you're right I'm going to refresh myself on having a sexy vibe.

As to this bitch she probably didn't deserve your cock, so fuck it

Lol that's definitely one way of looking at it. I tend to take maximum responsibility but that works too I guess and definitely feels better on the ego. Haha

Thanks for the reply Ray

 

[Mr.Rob]

Okay so I managed to not save my draft I spent 2 hours writing up till 2 O'clock in the morning on running on 3 hours of sleep.

OUCH... funny because if I could describe the content of that nights report I would describe it as OUCH as well... I divulge.

I'm not going to rewrite this whole damn thing because I don't have enough time but for those reading I'll give the main run down and for myself capture where I need to improve on for next time.
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Summary of me being a Scrub

For those that may remember this is the girl from a couple reports ago in my journal in which I brought her back to my place in under 30 minutes, told her explicitly I wanted to FUCK her in a heated moment, escalated to the point she had my dick in her hand, started crying because she had a boyfriend, we go at it again until she has to go, and I expected not to see her again.

She chased me through text afterwards for a while and then we eventually had another "date" (she came over to my house).

This 2nd "date" happened last Sunday.

Because I've never been or read about how to take things forward with a failed escalation that is giving you a second chance I decided I had two options:
1. Escalate aggressively with more passion and sexuality and get her so wet she wouldn't have a choice (which is what I tried to do the first time)
2. Don't get physical with her at all and aim to make her chase and initiate everything with me (which I chose to do but didn't do it correctly)

So yeah I chose plan #2 as it seemed like the best option.

She came over dressed waaaayyyyy sexier than last time. She had black satin booty shorts with a complementary top on. A very classy yet sexy look.
Upon arrival at my house she asked "sooo what are we going to do?" in a sexual way. I read this as "How are you going to fuck me?"

I should've taken these two flags and changed plans to #1 but was very adamant about sticking to the plan. Hard headed.

We're on the couch having a non-sexual interaction. My roommate comes in and they start talking about a TV show in which I throw a bored look on my face and wait for her to re-engage me. She never does so I take this bamboo decoration from next to the wall and playfully hit her leg with it to get her attention back. It works and we banter about her dislike for the bamboo stick.

I then make the worst decision of the night.

Now before I talk about what this was let me explain my rationale behind it... My rationale was that I was going to borderline friend zone her in which would make her wonder as to what was going on and hopefully get her chasing me.

I decided to take her on a walk outside to this little park next to my house in my neighborhood. Here we had an extremely non sexual conversation (though it wasn't boring) however I think I communicated a very mixed signal that did the opposite of what I intended it to do and basically took things a step backwards instead of forwards.

I think it she started to view me as being less dominant, less sexual, and less going after what I want since she knows all I want to do is FUCK her at this stage in the game (since the last time she was over I explicitly told her that to her face).

*If I could do this all over again: When her and my roommate started talking I would have instead casually gotten up and walked to my bedroom. She'd be forced to either get up and leave (which she wouldn't have done) or go into my bedroom and find me (which would set up the start of the dynamic of her chasing me since she's having to "look" for me).
I never would've gone on the stupid walk outside. I want her for one thing (at this point in time) and I only offer her one thing (an amazing sexual experience she can't get anywhere else) going to the park communicated a whole range of non related shit (do I want to date her? marry her? etc bullshit of that nature)

After the walk in the park we came back to my room.

We continue to have a platonic-ish non sexual conversation while on my bed.

I'm trying to think of ways to get her to chase and I can't really come up with any. At the same time I start reconsidering my plan of action and think it might be wise to go for the kiss and see what happens.

She's in front of me on the bed and in a wave of action I go in to kiss her. She turns her cheek and I smoothly transition to smelling her neck and talking very sexily into her ear.

She digs this for a minute and bites my chest in an aggressive playful way, she was momentarily turned on. However I couldn't manage to keep this progressing itself (very frustrating) and the vibe died back down to non sexual nothingness.

Ideally here I would like to be able to write that I said thing xyz and touched her X body part which brought her over the edge of desire and then I pushed her away before pulling her into me, pushing her against my wall, peeling her shorts off, and then ramming my fingers into her wet pussy while I look deep into her soul as she bites her lip longingly.

On that note I really want to learn how to do that and get to that point where I can easily replicate the vibe, words to be said/how to say them, and how to touch a girl that sends her reelling over the edge in a way she only gets to experience when reading sexually explicit romance novels.

However in all actuality the way this played out was that I let the vibe drop back down and then we were back in this weak purgatory limbo of non sexualness.

She kept saying "time for me to go" then wouldn't leave (almost as if she wasn't digging the vibe but desperately wanted me to change the vibe to sexual fun.... only I don't know how exactly to do that).

I scrambled to try a few more thing here and there to get her to chase but in the end she walked out possibly never to be seen again. I'm sure her respect for me as a man diminished quite a bit since our last meeting as well.

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Lesson Learned

1. Have a more sturdy solidified plan.

2. Be open to being flexible to change plans on the fly if what you expected was different than what actually is. (in this case her being sexually dressed and somewhat enthusiastic about being at my house... time for sex not making her chase).

3. Keep non sexual conversation for getting to know girls not escalation

4. Don't take things backwards in seduction

I really want to learn how to lead girls (and myself) from a place of non sexualness to full on primal lust.

Over and out.

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

A note on a recent experience regarding assertiveness and being a hard closer

One of the classes I'm taking right now requires us to raise $1000 for a local charity.

We started doing basic fundraisers such as car washes and bake sales, typical amateur fundraisers.

We had minimal success to say the least raising less than $100 at events. However at that point in time we thought we were doing well.

An event we held 2 weeks ago we were short on people (3 people and need a minimum of 5 to hold the car wash) which caused me to doubt the success of the car wash.

On the way over to the venue from where we parked our cars we passed a church that was holding a "breakfast for the homeless", in which a group of homeless/vagrant men congregated.

I figured we could use the help and they could use a free meal after helping us so I approached this group of men. There was probably about 15 of them all together and about 5 of them looked as if they were fresh out of prison.

When I told them what we were doing I got 14 blank stares and one energetic yes from a short smiling black man in his early 30's. He was with his "patna" who also agreed to help us. (Patna is dressed in jeans, a dark black XXL hoodie, and mean mugging from underneath his hood that rests just above his eye brows. Looks like he just got out of prison and later I find out he really did just get out of prison)

They tell me that they'll be over in an hour and so we go on our way to set our supplies and car wash area up.

At this point in time the way we'd get people to come get their car washed was to stand out on the side of the road with a neon car wash sign and dance like monkeys in an effort to get cars to get washed. I don't know why we did that because we got maybe one car an hour that way but we just didn't know how else to go about it.

That is until the homeless men showed us the light.

I honestly probably wouldn't have allowed them to do what they did at first notion but I was dancing with the sign on the side of the street and my buddy gave them the thumbs up to start panhandling/soliciting everyone in the parking lot for donations and gave the offer to get their car washed.

My friend told me to come see since he was a bit freaked out at their aggression towards these customers and that they may make our charity look bad in the eyes of the community which would not be a good thing.

However despite their aggression and subtle lack of social acuity they managed to make $30 in about 20 minutes of being there in which we would typically make that amount in about 1-2 hours.

On top of that these people that were giving, most were doing so out of a genuine want to help out and not just because these guys were scary and dominant as shit (which was my original notion).

These guys were professionals at getting people that were originally not paying a dime of attention, nor showed any desire to, to stop and put all their attention on them while they explained our cause.

With a little time these homeless guys showed and coached us on how exactly to approach people and persist in a nice way for those that originally tried to shut us down.

The basic gist of it was that he would approach a person walking into the store and ask if they'd like their car washed. If they said no he would address them again and say "look mam/sir we're with organization xyz and we're trying to raise money to get the kids out of the foster home is their anyway you could help out, anything helps even spare change".

To my surprise a lot of people that initially said "no" or simply brushed him or us off, that to me didn't look like they would give money in a million years, he was able to turn them around and get them to go draw cash back on their gas station purchase to donate to us. Often times in 5's and 10's at a time.

It really was cool watching these guys persist in a dominant and assertive way without over offending anyone (he pushed a couple over the ledge and I'm surprised management never kicked us out but for the most part no one was too offended).

We ended up making $450 in one day with this car wash which was 3 times as much as our teacher said anyone would ever make a tabling or carwash event. We absolutely destroyed.

Lessons Learned

On this day I learned a lot from these guys about how to go after what you want and not take no for an answer (or at least not too quickly).

There's plenty of times I've asked for stuff in this life and got a quick no/maybe and taken that without further question and just accepted the shitty outcome.

I now know to be more assertive and aggressive with what I'm going after.

I also know the correct energy, vibe, and charisma that is necessary to pull this off as well. Most people when asking for something feel almost uncomfortable and uncertain about what it is they are asking for. What I learned is you must be engaged, certain, and almost forceful with the who you're trying to get your idea across to for them to even take the time to listen to you in the first place.

Once you have they're attention you can go from there and pitch as they listen.

I want to implement this type of aggression into going after what I want and take the lesson in persistence from it as well.

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Short on time so I'm only going to write down 2 interactions from last night.

Nightgame both on the street downtown.

1. Probably one of the hottest girls I've approached in a while, very sexy. She was walking by herself down the street with a borderline sad expression on her face and her arms crossed.

I approached her walking towards her and I think I just said "hey you are very sexy..."

She acknowledged me and kept walking so I walked backwards while looking at her and talking. I persisted by calling out her foul emotional state and told her to smile. She started to warm up a bit and we started exchanging conversation. I told her to let me in on her mood and she was about to divulge some "bad news" so before she even started I told her that "I'm not your emotional tampon but the general idea is fine to tell". She laughed and gave me a brief run down.

We walked with each other for a bit and then stopped on the street to talk.

I can't really recall the conversation much at all but we just had a really awesome vibe between us and I screened her logistics. She told me she was meeting some "other" friends since her night with other friends didn't go ideally.

I tell her we should go adventure together. She seemed somewhat keen to the idea as if she'd say yes if I pumped her emotions a bit (to get her mind off logical meeting her friends) and persisted in getting her to come with me I think I could've pulled her. The attraction was there I could see it in her eyes and emotions (she was nervous).

I called her out on being shy and how adorable it is. I also started touching her in different parts of her body including her face (in the middle of the street) and she allows me to do as I please.

I'm feeling pretty good that she'd be down to meet up for a day two soon so I decide to walk her down the street a bit and grab info and set up a date later on. I'm usually pretty proficient at being able to tell if a girl will be likely to meet up for a date later on by her body language and I could tell she was a definite candidate there so I rationalized my decision that way.

After getting her number I told her to hug me and while we embraced I whispered into her ear that I just wanted to feel her perky boobs on me (she had a nice rack though not overly large), she was neutral to this comment. I wanted it to be playfully sexual with a bit of asshole to it to be a bit challenging but I think it may have come off like I viewed her more as a piece of meat than an human being. Idk just my first guess.

She replied immediately to my ice breaker and I figured things would be all good.

I texted her today and no response... Probably try and call tomorrow and leave a voicemail if she doesn't answer if she doesn't then oh well.

*If I could do this over again: I would not have let her go. I would have pumped her emotions to get her off the logical (going to meet her friends) and instead get her totally in the moment and embrace the adventure. I then would've started moving her back to my car and escalate from there or try and go to my friends apartment down the street.

I wouldn't have let her go.

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2. This was an amazing approach.

My friends and I were posting up on the side of a building waiting for another buddy and these two cuties come walking our direction. I walk out into the street approach them and hold my hands out like Jesus and tell them I'm Jesus. It knocks them straight out of autopilot and they stop, but one of them (the leader girl) decides it's "limbo" time and does the limbo under one of my arms. The other girl does the same but cheats (she ducked down instead of bend backwards to get under my arm) so I call her out on it and I somehow pull her back into me.

I can tell she attracted and she comments on how she isn't highly religious and this that and the other. We're hitting it off pretty well.

Her friend is now being entertained by one of my wings but he's sort of fucking up and negging her too much and not being "normal" and she gets somewhat fed up with them. I go over to the friend to do some damage control and she seems to be somewhat into me as well but I soon leave her once she is back on track to go talk to my girl again.

We're chopping it up and then my other wing (who was in a pretty good social mood at this point) comes in purposely and tries to tool me to look bad in front of the girl (we do that from time to time just to keep each other in check and make sure we react to it properly). I handle it good in a cool way and pass my own friends test haha.

We're talking and by now the 5 minute mark is coming up so I propose we go grab some free drinks down the street (at my buddys house) in which she seems pretty open to. Only problem is getting the friend to agree when she's been hit on by both of my friends (one she didn't like and the other one she was open to but somewhat neutral too).

So my girl says it's cool and then her and the other girl talk for a second.

Here is where we make our mistake.

There was a period of about 1 minute when the "leader" girl (girl I wasn't talking to) was in an emotional state and had a weaker frame of where she was going to go (her frame was originally "We're going to bar XYZ to get cheap shots"). Meaning she could've easily been persuaded and caught up in the fun.

In this one minute my wing and I (the wing she wasn't totally opposed to) should've made the decision for them and just taken their hands and led them towards our place. I could've told my girl to tell her friend that it was a good idea and we could've bounced them quickly.

However after this one minute window closed (I think due to our indecisiveness or my wing may have said something) and the leader had her mind made up and now logical that they were going to go to bar XYZ.

We could've gone with them but it felt too chasey at that point and we opted out hoping to see them later and reapproach them.

*Lesson learned: Lead decisively, make the decision for them, we're where the party is at and they don't want to be discluded from the party so they should naturally follow if we're congruent to that mindset

Also get the friend that is the alpha to agree to whatever is the decision of best interest for the group. I've had much luck with that lately in my last two LR so I think I should keep tweaking around with that.

Keep it pimpin gents

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Daygame action son

Today I talked to 3 girls at my school.

All of them were relatively low risk approaches (by low risk I mean low amount of people around to witness). The reason I even mention that is because I used to be a lot more badass in the daytime and not really give a fuck. I think at one point I reached a certain level of success (comfort) and got a bit burned out from pushing my comfort zone to meet girls in scary situations and never really recovered from it.

I think at some point I'm going to have to push myself back out just for the challenge.

Out of these 3 girls I got minimum to high attraction from all 3 of the girls and got a pretty solid number from the last girl.

I'm only going to go over the 1st girl since it was my "fuck up" if you will

Hello I need directions
Walking back to my car I noticed a shorter but decently built girl walking down the campus way with booty shorts on and a black sleeveless shirt (a classier one not a homemade ghetto "I cut the arms of my T-shirt").

She was quite a bit aways ahead of me but I figured the detour wasn't soo far out of my way to where it wasn't worth it.

I catch up to her and have a wavier of self doubt as I'm walking up yet at the same time fully committed to meeting her one way or the other (since I went out of my way this far).

I'm come up on the left side of her very casually and say "excuse me, I need some directions, I'm new here and still trying to figure this campus out, do you know where parking garage C is?"

I said this very non in a hurry and with a somewhat direct undertone. In this manner I was trying to convey sexuality through my non verbals without having to resort to going full on direct.

She was vibrant enough and happy to give some directions and her body language said that she was keyed in to my sub communication and also appeared to be ready to talk for a minute or two.

I stay on this thread of asking for directions and small talk about how long she's attended the school before she faces her body language away to leave. I ask her if her car is where her body is faced and she says yes. My car was that way too so I say

Me: Here let's walk towards our cars
Her: Okay
(Here I realize that she's sort of on the fence about my intentions so I go direct Ricardus style)
Me: Are you single?
Her: Yes...
Me: Cool

Here I just made my intentions fully known to clear out any "hiding the Banana" tendencies that may be clogging up each others thoughts.

I immediately change the subject back to her and we trade names and I find out she's a horse girl and into equestrian sports. I tease her and delve into my past of dating a crazy horse girl, but I tell that she was crazy in a positive way. I attempt to get her to qualify herself as a crazy/wild girl but she is somewhat resistant to do so. However after qualifying the horse girl I dated in the past in a positive manner she seems content with my synopsis.

We continue to banter and deep dive.

She tries to guess my degree. She does so unsuccessfully and I sort of push her by not giving her the answer (or leading her to guess it correctly) which in reflection I believe sent her a bit towards auto rejection.

Keep in mind that when we first stopped to talk again after I asked if she was single she was asking me questions and I could tell she was moderately-to-decently attracted.

We keep talking. During this talking I'm taking her hand and playing with it but she retracts it and won't let me hold it for very long.

I like her belt buckle and decide to comment on it and get a bit closer to her and tug on it a little. Though I could feel the tension building.

I tell ask her what she drives (my plan was to get us in one of our cars, adventure in the car to my house) playfully suggesting she drives some really nice expensive car.

She tells me it isn't any of the cars I spoke of and suggests at the end that it may be too messy for me. (Good sign here being that she suggests it's messy insinuating that I'm going to see the inside of her car and she wants to warn me ahead of time). However I get caught up in having fun and PUSH her again saying "ah I can't do messy cars I have too high a standards for that" all said with an obviously joking facial expression. I think though she either took my words at face value or I didn't sub communicate properly that it was a joke and sent her closer to auto rejection. She started to head off again after this.

I then told her to stay for a moment and show me her eyes. She complies and I still feel some sexual tension building but when I get close to her and look at her deep in the eyes her pupils are not very dilated and big like I was hoping they would be (when girls get attracted to you). I would have liked to have seen them right after I asked if she was single.

Here she keeps making moves to leave so I walk with her towards her car (my car is the same direction) but she's very defensive now and it's my fault for putting her on the defensive. I think I have made an improper habit of pushing girls a little too much at times without taking notes on exactly how far to go and reading her better.

*Quick note regarding Pushing girls: The main distinction I've made regarding whether or not a girl is going to enjoy a "PUSH" is if she is already really attracted to you and "sold" on you. I notice when I PUSH girls that are significantly attracted to me I get a laugh and if I'm really good they'll hit me back playfully (though sometimes hard) and attraction will SPIKE.

However when I give a big PUSH to a girl that isn't completely head over heels for me upon first meeting her I notice that they tend to go into auto rejection

Obviously another part of this equation is attainability being that you must also be quite attainable (though not too much) to give a big PUSH and have it go well.

She starts heading towards her car and I tell her to stop and inquire further about her day, in which I tell her to cancle her plans for coffee with some lamo she described and instead pencil it in for me. She says no and that she isn't that "mean".

I persist a bit but she's defensive at this point and in auto rejection.

Main mistake here was getting her on the defensive instead of the offensive. I think this was a result of pushing her too far into auto rejection and making myself to unattainable.

Keep it pimpin gents,

-Rob

 

[BlackBolt]

Hey man those high risk situations are what I just realized are my sticking point. I thought I had no approach anxiety but that was because I was doing all as you call it low risk approaches. Are you going to get back into high risk approaches soon?

 

[ray_zorse]

Interesting. I'm not strong on push/pull and I mean to try it. But it sounds like you're really getting up to speed and experimenting with it different ways, since I recall your talking about these kind of situations a lot in recent months.
Ray

 

[Mr.Rob]

Hey man those high risk situations are what I just realized are my sticking point. I thought I had no approach anxiety but that was because I was doing all as you call it low risk approaches. Are you going to get back into high risk approaches soon?

Yes I would like to just for the shear badassness factor that you get from it. You have to have the balls to stick your head out in a situation that only .01% of people on the earth are willing to be okay with your head getting chopped off and putting a bandaid on it to fix it and then go doing it again.

Haha. I have no desire to approach scary situations because I think I'm missing out on opportunity as much as I'm doing to build my inner gangster and my muscle of courage.

Probably one of the most badass approaches I've ever done was in a Panera Bread. There were quite a few people eating lunch inside and I noticed these 2 foreign latina girls at the booth next to where the door was open. I approach unashamedly and gave one of them a direct compliment telling her she looks sexy. She absolutely ate it up though nothing materialized with it. Everyone sitting down eating watched closely as I chatted up these girls with their mouths agape.

Yeah you start doing scary approaches on a regular basis and get used to it and eventually you're just a badass mother fucker that will tell a girl talking on the phone in a crowded area to get off the phone and introduce herself. When she complies and she's into you and everyone is watching... hahaha best feeling ever.

Interesting. I'm not strong on push/pull and I mean to try it. But it sounds like you're really getting up to speed and experimenting with it different ways, since I recall your talking about these kind of situations a lot in recent months.
Ray

Yeah I really like push/pull. It goes well with being challenging and being an asshole. I've said some pretty crazy shit to girls that I never would've dreamed of in a million years (quite frankly some derogative mean shit on the surface level) but because I say it in a playful way and they're not used to being talked to in such a manner they absolutely fucking LOVE it. Craziest shit I've witness in my life to date.
The thing is getting the perfect timing and vibe down and knowing when to spike the interactions at the perfect time. I've also had a couple of these go down the drain pretty hard haha. Oh well gotta crack a couple eggs to make an omelet right?

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Quick update from tonights outing.

Ladies night @ Library (a bar).

Not too packed out but there was definitely enough people to get some shit cracki-lackin.

Met about 5-6 girls tonight. 3-4 were actual non half assed approaches, the other 2 were more like building momentum just seeing her reaction. 1 girl actually hooked and I could've moved things along with.

For purposes of saving time I'm only going to go over the good interaction and where I fudged up at.

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This girl was standing and texting by herself. I called her out on it by asking her if she was checking her stocks. She laughs and plays along with things.

I then comment on her drink and I forget how exactly but I manage to get her to qualify herself as being a naughty girl (not in those exact words) but she challenges my "I think you might be a bad girl" with "I guess you'll just have to find out..."

I then ask her if she reads. She says yes. I start to tell her what I'm reading ("The Way of the Superior Man") and the chapter I read earlier regarding how a Superior Man should not ejaculate every time he has sex but only when HE decides he wants to and only before weighing the options.

I'm trying to learn a bit of sex talk and see if I can't spice my interactions up a bit and possibly help beat LMR before it starts.

She comments that it would really suck not to ejaculate after sex every time. *In retrospect I should've deep dove her on this with "I've had that happen before... some girls right? Have you ever been with a man that didn't let you cum?"
Perhaps even that may be a bit bold, but she was into me but not crazy into me.

This ends and she informs me that she needs to get a new drink. I say we should move on the patio where it is less noisy and we can get a drink there. She agrees and we go outside. She gets her drink and we start talking together.

Basic small talk stuff with a bit of deep diving. And then

Her: You're studying education?!
Me: Haha no what makes you think that (shes trying to guess what I'm going to school for)
Her: I don't know you seem like you have a vibe that you'd be a teacher
Me: Hmm do I? Well what would you like to learn
Her: Blah blah blah this and that and brings up the ejaculation thing I was talking about again earlier
Her: not ejaculation!
Me: How about female ejaculation? (Said somewhat as a joke but in retrospect perhaps a bit tentatively)
Her: Okay this is my que to leave goodbye

I didn't think she'd actually get offended to the point where she'd leave. I could tell she was somewhat attracted and if I could have molded that attraction higher than I think we'd be good to go. I misjudged my calibration a bit thinking she might be more receptive to it but she wasn't.

Lesson learned: If she verbally said she isn't into the conversation don't keep pushing it. Even better would be to reintroduce a new thread altogether that ties into sex that could bring things in a little more subtlely and warm her up better.

-Rob

 

[Lotus]

So I read this entry and thought to myself weird.

Ladies night @ Library (a bar).

I had a bar near my school called "the study hall"

The Way of the Superior

Every chapter in this book has been a gem so far( about 1/3 through). For me the chapters on polarity between the sexes has allowed me to really understand the importance of being masculine, as opposed to just hearing it enough times to believe it.

What do you think so far?

I'm trying to learn a bit of sex talk and see if I can't spice my interactions up a bit and possibly help beat LMR before it starts.

This is something I haven't fully been able to to, and it's hard to find article on it because it's so situational. What has helped you increase it?

If she verbally said she isn't into the conversation don't keep pushing it. Even better would be to reintroduce a new thread altogether that ties into sex that could bring things in a little more subtlely and warm her up better.

It's seems strange that she went back to that thread just to cut it, maybe she wanted to let you know she was uncomfortable with the subject. Anyway sounds like that was a pretty fun interaction!

 

[Mr.Rob]

Every chapter in this book has been a gem so far( about 1/3 through). For me the chapters on polarity between the sexes has allowed me to really understand the importance of being masculine, as opposed to just hearing it enough times to believe it.What do you think so far?

Totally agree with where I bolded.

I just finished the book last night. First 1/2 to 2/3 is absolutely great (first 1/3 is the best) but after that it got a little too new agey woo woo impractical for me to really grasp or begin to implement in my own life.

The part on "Your Dark SIde" made very little to no sense to me. Perhaps when I re read it later on down the road after some more life experience it will click but a lot of it was a bit too poetical and not enough "here's how to do xyz".

Fantastic book though on the dynamics of polarity in the sexual realm and I have to say I highlighted over 30 different important quotes and chapters that really clicked with me.

He has a whole part on having sex but not reaching orgasm which I guess the metaphor he uses is interesting but in reality how likely or practical is it? And does it really make a difference in the sexual dynamic that he talks about. I'll have to try it out myself once the time comes I guess.

What has helped you increase it? (sexual talk)

I talked to a mentor recently that is very very good at sexual talk and he says he basically just brings it up as a fun piece of conversation to talk about and introduces it in a very casual way. He says a lot of girls dig it and a lot of girls think he's a misogynistic asshole. Haha

Read any of Drexel Scotts and especially Alek Rolstad's reports/articles to get an idea of how to go about introducing sex talk.

The biggest thing I got from talking to this guy was that I had the vibe a bit backwards. When you first introduce it you don't have to be in primal "time to fuck mode" and neither does she. It's basically just said in a fun conversation type of way all said with a sexy vibe that you would have the same as if you were in conversation normally.

If that makes sense?

But yeah Alek Rolstad and Drexel have the best articles on that stuff and I highly recommend you check them out if that's something you want to get into.

Alek Rolstads only LR that he posted has a phenomenal example.

Good luck

 

[Mr.Rob]

3 interactions from last night

I had a decently solid night last night. My main approach was to try a new aggressive screening style of game I watched on GLL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqoAtzTIgGA
A pretty bad ass video in my opinion. I love the lack of shits given when interacting and moving things forward. I decided to give it a go last night.

I case you're curious GLL in the video's basic screening process is to approach a girl and take her hand in a basic hand test. If she allows you to hold her hand then move her immediately. If she moves immediately keep holding her hand and then go for the kiss whenever you feel like it. If you make it that far then pull her home if logistics line up.

I had trouble taking every girls hand I met. I can take the hand of the girl if I know she's into it but I have trouble doing so when the girl is a bit tentative and reluctant to contribute which I don't necessarily think of as a horrible thing.

I also didn't move girls as aggressively as I would've liked as well.

I plan on trying this style out again today or tomorrow the next time I go out and focusing more on those two areas.

As far as the kissing goes I'm not super worried about that but the key take away I get from GLL is his complete irreverence of going for the kiss. He doesn't preframe it or wait for the perfect moment. Even if it's a bit awkward he just goes for it and cares less about the outcome.

Moving on next I will detail the 3 approaches of last night that were most notable.

1. Most notable last night was a girl sitting down smoking a cigarette at a outside bar table. There was a gate around the bar so as I was walking past I couldn't go up and approach her at the table.

I yelled out something about a cigarette to get her attention and then immediately called her over in an authoritative way to which she complied. She was immediately hooked by my sheer dominance, expectation of her coming over, and obedience to the law of least effort.

We just started bantering with a little deep diving thrown in for good measure.

She soon invited me in to have a drink with her and her friend. It was still somewhat early and I didn't want to lock in to a super long interaction and have it go nowhere. Her friend didn't have a guy with her and I didn't want to play that game so I got her number and we agreed to meet up later.

Not a very take away interaction however I'm writing this because of what I'd do differently if I could do it over again.

Clearly this girl was into me. CLEARLY.

If I could do this over again I would've had a drink with her and her friend. I'd try and find a guy for her friend to hang with so I could isolate my girl. Then I would screen logistics to see the likelihood of her coming over for an nightcap or her and her friend coming over for a nightcap (if they seemed adventurous enough).

If this didn't seem likely and things were still popping I would ask the friend to "borrow" her for a moment, take her on a walk to my car, and fuck her in my car plain as day.

Best way to prevent flakes is to sleep with her the day you meet her. I would've aimed to have done that here. As a result I got her phone number hoping to wait until closer to closing time to meet up with her then. However by the time I hit her up she was already on her way home.

Hopefully can set up a date with her. If not I learned my lesson here.

2. A girl that I met in the club last night. I wasn't super keen on approaching her at first because I guess I was too cool when she came up to order a drink where I was standing at the bar.

My friend looked at me and started mockingly making faces at me to say hi to her to which I submitted to his mockery and opened her situationally.

I didn't think I'd get much reception out of her but she was quite receptive in the way she held my hand and with her expressions toward me.

She was very shy and didn't speak good English (Puerto Rican) which I found attractive. She also had Double D breasts which I think may have been fake but they were eminently awesome as fuck.

We chatted it up for a second and I found that she was here with her brother and they came together (ooohh bad logistics already). I look over to her brother who is shyly standing in the corner of the club. I felt bad for him, the guy was in his late 20's.

We exchange names and then I let her go back to her brother knowing I could easily reopen her in a moment.

I chat it up with some friends again for a second before going back over to reopen this girl.

I introduce myself to her brother (who didn't appear to be a threat but looked like he aired on the white knight side of things so I decided to give him a handshake and a smile). I then resume talking to her. I compliment her here and there and tell her to compliment me to which she does.

I wanted to move her and I don't think she would've moved far but I think I could've moved her a foot or two to the right/left just to build compliance. She then told me about how she lives with her baby daddy and has a kid. I feel like I'm imposing my asking her to move with me and then her brother is going to be left there like a stick by himself.

I guess that isn't my problem though. If I could do this one over again I would have tried to move her and escalate sexually in conversation. If this went well I'd do my best to get her to want to come see me in some form or fashion.

Exp: "Look I'm really enjoying our vibe right now and it would be great to spend some time together alone to have drinks and talk and hang out more... but it's too bad you have obligations to be with your brother"

and see if I can't get her chasing and finding solutions to be with me.

3. This approach was a kind of cute petite rocker chick (idk what to call her. she had piercings all over her face but not too much). I approach her by extending my hand and motioning for her to take it (non verbal opener) to which she does.

I start bantering with her and allow my hand to stay in hers which she holds readily. I then soon try and move her in the bar (we were in the bar doorway) but she declines. I can see her friend who is talking to the bouncer right outside the door looking over in a very protective way which I make a mental note of.

I start chopping it up with this girl and amusing myself almost a bit too much. She thinks I'm hilarious and I'm just having fun.

She tells me her friend is very protective this that and the other.

I try to move her about 2 more times but she doesn't move with me because her friend is watching.

I let her go and tell her to come find me when the come inside the bar.

If I could do this over again:
I would not have let her go and instead gotten her to introduce me to her protective friend and then partied it up with them. Very basic shit here.

Keep it pimping gents

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

I've gone out the two past nights and day.

I don't have time to write up every single interaction but there are a couple I want to get down from the past two days that I gained something out of.

Sat. Night
Didn't have many interactions go anywhere of substance.

Only interaction that really went anywhere was two sisters my wing and I met at the entrance to Wall st. (Wall st. is a small street with about 6 bars located within close proximity. The street itself gets filled with people and the bars typically get packed as well.) Thus I essentially met these two on the street.

The girl I liked was initially very cold and rather bitchy and being generally dismissive.

I was able to knock her off her bullshit by being non resistant to it and saying some funny lines back to her in which she softened up and became quite attracted to me.

From here I moved her a bit to the side and we just talked and bantered. I could tell she was attracted and it was around 12:30 AM at this point in time.

I was thinking it would be best to get her number and hit her up at the end of the night, as to not spend the next hour and a half + talking to her.

I took her number and hit her up at the end of the night. We ended up texting briefly but my wing met up with them and said she had already found another guy at that point.

If I could do over again: I would stay with her, move her around, and attempt to pull her 30min to an hour later for a nightcap. 1:30 AM should be ample time to leave the club (30 min before closing) without them putting up TONS of resistance.

Lesson Learned for 2nd time this week:Best way to prevent flakes and her finding a better guy to go home with is to not leave the girl to begin with.

Yester DAY

1. HB Blondie at the farmers market- This girl was receptive upon first opening her while her and her 2 friends were checking out a booth at the farmers market. She immediately gave her name (good initial investment). Things were going decent and at one point the vibe dropped off a little bit and she went to turn to her friends for a second in which she became more locked into their group then ours (mine and hers).

I tried 2-3 times to get her reengaged into the conversation but to no avail did it really work other than to engage her in polite conversation. I even met all the friends and tried to do a little small scale social proofing.

I think my main mistake here was that I wasn't proactive in getting her to stay in conversation with me to begin with (if she would've been fully engaged in the conversation she never would've turned to talk to her friends).

I was trying to weasel my way into their party rather than draw them into mine

I think my main mistake here was lack of leadership in the conversation. It was one of those conversations that start off well and there is a gap in the conversation where I lack knowing where to take the conversation and I think the lack of leadership/decisiveness is just plain not attractive. Also the vibe of needing to get into their party to improve my day

2. HB Indie girl- This was a badass approach. 2 girls walking down the sidewalk while I was getting into my car on the other side of the sidewalk. I made a split second decision to get out the car and walk dominantly over to them to stop them.

I engaged the one I liked the most with a somewhat direct compliment if I'm not mistaken.

I then went on to amuse myself a bit, banter with the two, tell my thoughts on sweaty girls and how I think it's sexy, and deep dive ever so slightly. The girl was into me a bit but I was talking to fast and too high energy which I think led her to see me more as an entertainer than a sexy strong grounded man.

I lacked a bit of decisiveness and leadership when I invited them both to come back and hang out by the pool for bit and they weren't too keen on it because I hadn't seduced them both enough. Here I stumbled a bit to get the next best course of action to get her number and follow up for a day 2.

If I could do this interaction over again I would be more slow/lower energy and allow space between my thoughts and not appear overly excited. I would also have chosen to analyze the situation (the chances of these two girls saying yes to come with me when I knew they weren't completely bought into me or my idea of fun for them which would have been a BIG lump of investment for them) and recognize that it would've been better to take a phone number and follow up.

I would've taken the phone number on a high point. The high point I would've chosen would've been right when I picked her up and set her down when we were having fun.

HOB last night

Btw HOB=House of Blues

I was ON pretty damn good last night. I was determined to PUSH things a little harder last night. I always feel as if I could've pushed things a bit harder, MORE. I don't know if it's because I actually could have pushed things harder or if it's this neurotic thought pattern I have developed over the years of wanting to get the max.

However I'm fairly satisfied with last nights amount of PUSH.

I met this girl in the main area of the club. We got into some banter and she mentions she is a princess. I tell her I'm going to knock her off her pedestal but not to worry as I will catch her when I knock her off. She tells me that she doesn't see that happening in the near future. I tell her "behave yourself or you're going to recieve a spanking girl". She lights up and I have successfully knocked her off her pedestal

She is also highly attracted after delivering that spike in the interaction. Only problem I have in my mind is that her friend who appears to be the only friend she is with doesn't have anyone to hangout with or talk to. My wing doesn't find her attractive and tells me he is moving on to better tides. I however don't want to leave up this opportunity with my girl so I stay and try and figure logistics.

I inquire about her friend and how she has no one to be with. She tells me that not to worry and that they came with other people so she has others to go back to. Perfect!

I then tell her to move with me to find a seat to sit down.

She complies.

I move her to a table and we sit down and start chatting. I have the intention to run some sex talk on her in which I've already primed her on by talking about this "drone porn" video I saw the other day.

As a side note throughout the sitting down portion of this conversation I have my hand on her leg or am holding her hand in mine while talking into her eyes.

Quote of the sex talk

relating back to the aforementioned "drone porn" I ask
Me: what is your favorite type of porn?
Her: what? Uh I don't really have one. I mean I've watched porn before briefly but I haven't really gotten that into it. (She is a bit unsure of where this is going and doesn't want to give a slutty answer as she doesn't know if she can trust me)
Me: Oh I see well what are you more into books or something?
Her: Yeah I love reading! I read xyz list of books but their all mainstream and probably not something you'd be interested in
Me: Like 50 Shades of Grey?
Her: Yeah! hahaha I loved that book!
Me: I've read that book (just enjoy seeing girls reactions here)
Her: What LOL?
Me: Yeah I thought it was a bit over rated quite honestly. The whole promotion made the book seem as if it were going to be very sexual with lots of crazy bondage and dominance. However upon actually reading it all it was is the girl getting her hands behind her back and spanked a little bit. (Here I simply gave my thoughts on the sexual side of the book showing that it is okay/comfortable to talk about this subject while simultaneously painting myself as a very hardcore sex type of person since I said that the bondage/dominance in the book didn't impress me)
Her: HAHAHA yeah I guesss I could see that!
Me: Do you like getting tied up and spanked?
Her: Oh yeah I love that stuff! I think it's super hot!
Me: I do too
Can't remember the rest of the conversation thread after this point but I remember that this was about as far as I pushed the conversation sexually before getting onto a different subject.

In retrospect I would've liked to push this conversation further sexual and deep dive exactly what she likes in bed and how I would fuck her right now if we were alone.
However for some beginning sex talk I feel fairly accomplished.

Next into the interaction we talked about how typical guys treat girls in relationships compared to secret society members. She thought this was absolutely hilarious and agreed completely showing that I empathize and understand women and her's struggle to fit in the the utopian non sexual female society that is instilled into us.

At this point in the interaction I could feel that it was time to move things a step further. Thus I prompted her to move with me again to a location unknown but telling her "lets go for a walk! Adventure time!"

She agreed to this and I took her hand and led her out the club.

Now logistics for this place are all sorts of fucked up. This is downtown Disney so their is security over the place, the bathrooms have bathroom attendents in them, and where you park your car there are cop cars on constant patrol in the parking area (that latter makes it hard to escalate in the car comfortable to sex without having tinted windows in which case I do not have).

Despite my plan was to either find an overgrown place to lead her to to have public sex or lead her to my car and see if I could escalate once there.

From past experience I learned that if you don't have a specific place in mind outdoors to lead her to and you have to go find it and you can't find a suitable place you'll start to lack leadership and she'll lose attraction (you're just bumbling around with no clear place in mind to go to).

So since I knew nothing about Downtown Disney's cracks and crevices I decided to take her back to my car in the brightly lit parkinglot with multiple police cars patrolling the premises with the intention to try and escalte in the back seat or better yet get her to agree to drive her somewhere more secluded.

Long story short I lead her all the way back to my car. I was a bit tentative on the transition from walking to getting in my car and I hesitated for a split second and failed to get her in the car the first time around. I sat in my car and told her to get in on the other side to listen to music.

Here I could've done a multitude of different creative ways to get her to comply to my wishes.

I could've said "Mam you're going to have to behave yourself now give me your hands" and proceed to role play a cop and "handcuff her" and try and put her in the backseat of my car.

Or I could've tried to baby step her getting into my car and see if that worked.

So after persisting a few more times to get her into the car which didn't work I walked her back to the club.

On the way back to the club we passed a patch of bushes against a wall that looked like it could easily be traversed to have sex in. I attempted to lead her into it in which she declined as well. I persisted one more time in which she denied before moving on back to the club entirely.

This was a very difficult transistion and I'm proud I was able to lead her that far away from the club (10 minute walk) given the circumstances.

Keep it pimpin gents!

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Tuesday date night...

Made a couple mistakes on tonights date that I think cost me the interaction for the long run.

Met this chick at a Starbucks near my house. I was late to the date in which I didn't think much of since girls are always a little late but she was already there and patiently waiting.

It was an awkward greeting. She stuck her arm out half expectingly for a hug but a bit unsure and I gave her a one arm lame hug. We sat down where she was originally sitting and I sort of jumped into deep diving her about her past schooling. That feels awkward writing that Lol. After a second I said we should go get drinks.

I have literally no money right now and didn't even have enough money to buy myself anything. I let her order first hoping she would pay in which she did not.

The guy at the counter asked "will that be all?" in which everyone waited for me to say no. I let the silence build until she said "yes that will be all" and proceeded to pay out of her starbucks gift cards (because she didn't bring any money in expectation that I would pay) haha.

Anyway I told to come sit outside instead of inside and so we did so.

Conversation started out very surface level and sort of bland and boring in which I interrupted by talking about a story about how I came about to have enough money to purchase vitamins I bought recently.

I really wasn't feeling this girl to hard and wondered if this was going to get much better or more enticing.

The vibe during this part of the date felt as if I was screening her hard to see how she would answer to my questions. I did a good job of putting pressure on her but rewarding her answers so she didn't feel like I judged her a boring or not good enough.

I made a couple pattern interrupts that were funny and broke up the triteness of some of the conversation. I deep dove decently but not super deep as I really didn't care enough to. However though I think perhaps I should focus on this a little more to build a deeper connection.

After close to an hour of conversation sitting down I decided it was time to move her around since it was starting to get dull being in the same place for me. This escalation window I hit perfectly.

I told her lets walk around etc etc.

*Side note: Before I move on entirely there were a couple minor conversational blunders I made but easily recovered from. A couple of these mistakes include:

• Not deep diving to full extent
  Letting her control the conversation at times too much to my liking

Anyway we start walking around which she was a bit uncomfortable with for a second but got over it soon.

We're walking she asks "where are we going" in a curious/cautious way but not in a sexually adventurous way if you will. I tell her there is nothing too see anywhere close by and that we're walking to walk.

We're passing a gas station with a drive through automated car wash. I ask her if she's adventurous and challenge her a bit by telling her she's probably not and is conservative and safe. She disagrees and I take her hand and we walk through the car wash.

This is cool we're holding hands now so things are cool.

In the back of my mind I'm trying to decide between pulling her or getting a kiss and calling it a night early and go for the pull on the 2nd date.

Mistake #1 Not deciding what to do and sticking with it. In my mind I was on the fence about pulling and ending things short and sweet. On one hand I didn't really feel like she was ready/comfortable enough to agree to go home with me and on the other hand I wanted to see if an opportune moment would present itself to pull her.

As a result I waited to long and the escalation window closed for that to even be an option without me having to heavy duty influence her emotional state to be ready again.

At one point while walking back to Starbucks we were at a high point and had started holding hands all the way instead of half assed in which would've been an opportune time to seed the pull. Instead I waited till we got back to Starbucks to seed the pull in which felt awkward and not "right".

If I could do this over again I would've seeded the pull at the high point of the walk and see what she said. If she seemed like she would've been persuaded I would've pushed for the pull and if she didn't then I would've kissed her then and there and dropped her off at her car.

Mistake #2 Missing the escalation window for the kiss. This one was pretty synonymous with the last point since I should've gone for it when the moment felt right (when I felt like it) instead of waiting too long because I didn't know if I wanted to end things then or take her home (in which case I wouldn't have wanted to go for the kiss).

This comes to thinking ahead and being proactive. I felt the little feeling in my stomach that occurs when it feels time to make a move and my lack of clarity in my plan caused me to be indecisive. I should've been able to look into the future and see that once we got back to Starbucks the vibe would change a bit and it would be time to say good bye or pull. However I should've been able to see that the best time to seed the pull was before the awkward moment of getting back to the venue and her looking at me for what's next.

I did ask her to come home with me once back but it didn't feel right. So I then went desperately to find a place to kiss her. I brought her back to my car and started conversation but before I got a chance to kiss her she abruptly got up and said she was leaving to walk back to her car.

Another minor blunder I wish I would've done differently When we were walking back to the Starbucks I led her on the far side of the little starbucks road (if you will) and she pushed ever so slightly towards the closer side of the road in which I didn't want to walk on for wanting to be in the dark and not the street light. I nudged her back towards my direction to which she submitted and figured wouldn't be an issue anymore. Then about 5 seconds later she nudged me back towards the direction she wanted to go in which I took as her being uncomfortable walking on that side of the road because she couldn't see the cars coming. Upon inquiring she said she just likes taking the lead in which I knew I failed a shit test. I wish I would've nudged her back and said "behave or you'll get spanked missy!"

To Work On
I'm actually kind of excited about the mistakes I made on this date and I'm sort of excited to go on another date soon and focus on hitting those escalation windows perfectly which is something I struggle with on Day 2's.

Here is what I want to work on for my next date.

1. Look proactively into the future as to when/how exactly I'm going to pull and when I need to seed/ask for the pull.

2. Know what the game plan is for if you want to pull or end things short an sweet. I think ideally, unless you know it's ON, it best to run the date set up to be short and sweet (drink + walk + kiss goodbye) that way you can decide to end things easy if the pull isn't happening and burning it to the ground isn't the best idea. However this template can easily allow for transition to pull so no worries there.

Make the decision to pull about 45min - 1 hour based on how things are going and the vibe. At a high point ask for the pull and see what she says and make your decision based on her answer/demeanor as to if you should pull or go for the kiss and end things short and sweet.

With this decision made you will know how to hit the escalation window properly and go for the kiss or not.

3. Hitting things on the high note. I have a bad habit of asking for investment or going for the kiss on a low note. This is easy to fix with a little bit of attention.

4. Hitting escalation windows properly as they present themselves. I think being decisive had a lot to do with this one and was the reason I failed to hit the latter escalation window in time. Being able to look into the future and seeing that the window is about to close soon could help out as well.

I want to get another date going so I can work on these points. I'm excited about this and determined to get this right next time.

One of the reasons I haven't been getting this right is because I show up to the date with a little blur in my head and not a clear enough cut gameplan. I've gotten used to a basic process and relying on what "feels" right but I don't have all the details covered in which I think these 4 points may well enough work for.

Need to hit up the daygame scene and get some dates lined up.

Keep it pimpin gents!

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Odd night out.

So something is really really bugging me about last night but I can't really put a finger on exactly what it is.

Last night wasn't a great night results wise, which doesn't bother me, however I think it's my overall execution of last night that is bugging me. Perhaps I feel like I didn't push things hard enough.

To be honest I feel like this a lot more than I should. The actual result doesn't bother me if I get it one way or the other. What bothers me is if I did or did not push things to the hilt to get what I want, what I've put 2 years + investment into.

First and foremost one thing I do TOO much of is jumping around a venue too much. I hit up one girl on one side of the venue and then go all the way to the other side and then all the way to the other side again and I need to focus on working with whats around me better and obey the law of least effort.

The core issue with last night was that I would approach, I would open good and get a decent amount to a lot of attraction, then the vibe would just die down completely, I'd run out of things to say, and just couldn't get in that nice flow.

These nights happen I realize but frustrating nonetheless.

I've been racking my brain for what the possible reason that this kept occurring and I think it may have something to do with my energy levels.

I felt sleepy (lethargic) when I first went out and it sort of maintained stasis throughout my night. I had spurts of energy where I'd be having fun and then it would just die off. I couldn't sustain it.

Perhaps my diet (ALOT of white potatoes due to lack of money the past two days) and over eating multiple meals a day.

A lot of half hearted open and not committing to the full interaction last night as well.

If there were two main things I'd focus on from last night it would be

1. Not jumping all around the entire venue

2. Open full heartedly and with full commitment

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Interactions:

1. Out of town girl I opened with her black friend who had perfect perfect breasts. The open went fucking great she was almost hooked. We had a great first minute or two of interaction with a little sexual suggestiveness. She asked me where I lived and made comment on how cool it is we live close to each other. I sort of lollygagged not really fully "awake" if you will. She asked a boring question which I answered in a boring way and instantly the vibe just died down completely.

This pretty much happened like 5-7 times last night as a full repeat of this.

2. Observation Bullet: This was interesting. I met up with my wing later that night and he hit up these two girls. I watched as they started laughing and having fun with him so I went over and introduced myself to the one he wasn't talking to. She didn't give me a lot to work with. I put a bored look on and she somewhat engaged me soon and started chatting with me a bit.

I overhear them both look at my wing and chime "we have boyfriends! blah blah blah". I knew it was bullshit but I could care less about these girls at this point but I had a little social momentum from talking with this girl and a hotter girl was walking by where we were seated at the bar. I call over the hotter girl walking by and she is attracted to the dominance.

I tell her to come meet my sister and point towards one of the girls from the last interaction that I never really left. She instantly complies to my command and doesn't really know what to do but reaches over me to introduce herself to the girl I don't even know I was just talking with.

I sit back and smile amused as I watch my influence unfold on this girl. She gets done meeting this random girl and I just start chatting with her. Shes attracted and the other two girls that I now just dropped the interaction with come over pat me on the knee and walk away (I can tell the preselection I just got in front of their faces really made them attracted to me despite not liking me an ounce before that).

However this doesn't last long as the vibe drops off 5 minutes later just like the rest of the interactions from tonight.

3. Approached probably the hottest girl in the club IMO at this little country bar. She had on a low cut sun dress reavealing her amazingly perfect and big boobs. OMG I want to bust nuts all over her tits! FUCK THEY WERE AMAZAING!!!!!!!!

Phew! Okay so I approach this girl and I really don't expect her to open up that well as I was in this whack ass chodey vibe. Whatever she lights up and is glad to meet me and then the vibe drops off and I run out of shit to say and my energy level depletes and she leaves.

Story of my life LOL.

The main thing I'm pointing out here despite not having a great night is just to keep hammering it out and keep meeting people because I know my vibe can flip on a dime and I meet some girl that just instantly adores me and goes great.

4. This was probably the best interaction I had the whole night.... and it lasted all but 30 seconds. HAAHA

I told myself before seeing this girl that I was going to approach one more girl and then go home.

Well I saw her walking towards me and I was leaning on a lamp post observing my friend chatting up a girl.

I simply step in front of her and hold my hand out for her to take. I think I told her that she looks amazing.

She took my hand and didn't let go. I could tell she was instantly attracted. I keep her hand in mine and start playing with it while not taking my eye contact directly off of hers and maintaining sexy eye contact.

She tries to take a hold of the frame and says "alright I'll give you my number but you have to take me out and spend lots of money on me". This catches me off guard and almost fumble for a second to collect my thoughts and then I tell her that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and that she's some rich spoiled brat that deserves a spanking. I say this in a dominant sexy way. She tells me I can spank her all I want to if I buy her shit. I'm still thinking "WTF I'm not your fucking little provider within the first 30 seconds of meeting you".

I figure this is just a shit test and I tell her that I'm not a provider and merely a lover.

She finds this extremely unalluring and leaves immediately...

She was very direct about shit and I would have been curious to be more sexually direct with her frame. Such as cutting the thread with "you have a mad sexy vibe and you're turning me on in the middle of the street. Your cute demanding bitchiness is making me imagine tying you up and making you behave like a nice girl"
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So all and all I'm not going to put too much weight on this not so hot night. I've had them and they come and go.

I think the main thing I'm upset about is not pushing things further but I felt very unergized and unengaged last night to do so. I think I'll attribute my lack of energy to over eating and eating white potatoes (which make me slow/sleepy). Sounds crazy but its amazing how something as small as that can affect your overall performance.

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Just got back from hanging out with a friend for little bit.

My buddy highlighted an interesting thing about myself in which I find as a weak point in myself.

Example:

He was talking about my business idea I have that I may involve him in lightly. I want to head up almost the entirety of the business project but he had in mind it would be 50/50. When he asked me my thoughts on his ideas (about my idea) I sort of stumbled for words to put things in a nice way as to not hurt his feelings. I'll do this occasionally with him and he'll call me out on it and tell me to speak my mind.

I then just blab out exactly what I'm thinking "I want to head this project up myself because I have experience in area xyz and you don't" instead of "well uh, you know... I think it would be best if since I have a bit more experience to do thing xyz that perhaps it would be best not to delegate so much of it to you. You're great at ABC and I think it"

Like dude cut the fucking shit and say what's on your mind.

I need to start training myself up on this as I don't find it attractive to be indirect and sugar coat everything. I don't always do this but I've found myself doing it more and more lately. Maybe my overly nice guy roommate is rubbing off on me ... ughhh.

I think the core problem is that I'm not being congruent to what I'm thinking when I talking about this. I need to work on aligning my words to my thoughts instead of aligning my words to not hurt the other persons feelings.

Damn I fell off the asshole train!

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

I believe I have pinpointed my weak areas to know what the biggest things I need to focus on are!

RSD Jeffy had a recent vlog in which he described how one of the biggest factors of staying in "intermediate purgatory" is failing to screen properly for logistics and wasting too much time on girls that aren't compliant or have good logistics to be pulled.

In Chases recent advanced forum topic post he talked about polarization and how it is typically one of the main issues keeping guys from getting the consistency that they desire in their endeavors to become a seducer.

These two factors is what I believe to be my main issues keeping me from pulling and fucking the amount of girls I desire. I want to focus on these areas specifically for a month straight and see if I can't increase my results.

I will hash out exactly what/how I will work on and deliberately practice in each of these areas tomorrow but I will now move on to my night evaluation for tonight.

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Back In Pcola Baby

Yup back in my home town. All lonesome and by myself (no friends to go out with)... I kind of like a good soul session.

Okay so looking back as to how well I stuck with my process (which I don't have outlined so I guess its more of an idea about having a process) tonight I would say that I did not stay as focused on polarizing as I would have liked. This is the first outing in which this has been a real focus so I will note where I can improve tomorrow when I write up my execution plan/process/goals for polarization and screening girls out.
However I did stick pretty well with minimizing time in between interactions and being decisive in making the initial approach.
I need to get a game plan for screening for logistics.

Keely
Tonight was dead... I've never seen my city this dead on a Friday night in my entire life but it was deadsville.

Keely was the hottest girl by far that I saw out tonight, just a side note.

The approach: I'm at Seville (6 bar rooms in one building) and she's in the bar room with pretty much no one in it but her sitting alone at the bar by herself. I know I need to approach. I go to the bar and the bar tender approaches me and I tell him to top off my water. I then look over (she's noticed me by now) and ask how her night is going. She responds favorably and asks about mine.

We get to talking about how I've approached her before in the same bar but it isn't awkward, dismissive, or a shit test (though I wish it would've been a shit test).

I keep staring down at her legs and keep remembering that I need to be more polarizing and so far I haven't been very polarizing. She talking about how she works out and is super healthy and shit. I tell her to stand up (I do this for two reasons 1. I want to move her and get her following my lead ASAP 2. I want her to stand up so I can check her out and comment on her sexy in shape body and hopefully transition to some light sex talk) in which she complies. I can't think of a smooth way to talk about her legs (which was what I liked) in which will easily transition to sex talk so I just tell her she is sexy (may have come off a bit too chasey).

We are talking about health and shit and I make the mistake of asking about her diet (because I was genuinely interested) however this derails the conversation to be conducive to seduction and I know it while I'm doing this. In the back of my mind I'm thinking that I can easily get off this topic when it finishes and I will be able to get things back on track.

However it is also about 2 in the morning and there really isn't a lot of time to dilly dally.

I do screen her logistics and find that she is with 3 friends (her female roommate and 2 "buddies" which she refers to her guy friends as which tells me that she refers to them as so because she wants me to know that they are not competition).

While talking about her diet I take her hand and start playing with it. She takes it back. She holds her hand as if to high five (it should be noted that we are very close to one another in body distance but not up on each other) in which I put my hand on hers and slowly wiggle my fingers to see if she will interlace her hand in mine. She won't do it and takes her hand away. I keep conversation going but it becomes increasingly platonic.

I don't move her further and for a split second between conversation threads she talks to the bartender and then her friends come... FUCK!

I dropped the ball! She then excuses herself to go to the bathroom in which I talk to her cute roommate. This girl is in to me so I decide to play around and see what will happen if when my girl comes back and sees me chatting up her roommate and her roommate is into it. I'm hoping she will be jealous and try and play back or approach us but she plays it cool and says that they are about to go eat at place XYZ and that it was good seeing me again.
Hail mary plan failed... in retrospect her roommate was into me and looking back I should've taken her number and tried to set up a day 2.

So my main failure here was the following:

1. Failing to keep conversation exciting and conducive to seduction (no platonic tangents or threads that no one cares about... no cares about that's trying to get fucked or do the fucking)

2. Failed to cut the thread via breaking rapport when things got off topic

3. Failed to polarize as hard (could've moved her to a different section of the bar we were in after getting her to comply to standing up)

Will come back tomorrow to write up my game plan for deliberately practicing the aforementioned points in my game and set some short term goals in each of these areas.

Until next time keep it pimpin

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Biggest Areas To Target To Achieve My Goals

First off this post is primarily targeted to

1. List my overall goals for the year

2. Pinpoint exactly where I want to improve over the next couple months and track the results of said deliberate practice

3. How I'm going to implement #2 and exactly what that will entail

Lets crack into this!

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First here are a couple choice quotes I took from rereading a bit of "Talent is Overrated" by Geoff Colvin to set the tone here:

The differences between expert performers and normal adults reflect a life-long period of deliberate effort to improve performance in a specific domain

Deliberate Practice Elements:
-Designed specifically to improve performance (Requires that one identify certain sharply defined elements of performance that need to be improved, and the work intently on them)

-It can be repeated a lot

-Feedback on results is continuously available

-It is highly demanding mentally

-It is not fun

Deliberate practice is above all an effort of focus and concentration. That is what makes it "deliberate" as distinct from the mindless playing of scales or hitting of tennis balls that most people engage in.

Practice is something that is designed and thus can be designed well or badly.

(Paraphrased) Practicing is not enough but the amount of effort/engagement when practicing will determine results vs. no results. A study of singers found that when amateurs took a voice lesson, they experienced it as an enjoyable release of tension, but when professionals took a lesson, they experienced it as an intense difficult effort. Practice to master a skill requires a HIGH LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT.

Practice to flounder around and be average in a skillset requires only to flounder around.

Great performers never allow themselves to reach the automatic, arrested-development stage in their chosen field. That is the effect of continual deliberate practice- avoiding automaticity.

The essence of practice, which is constantly trying to do the things one cannot do comfortably, makes automatic behavior impossible!

I want to be far above average in my skills to seduce the most gorgeous women in the world and bring the ones I desire into my life.

I will be far above average in my skills to seduce the most gorgeous women in the world and bring the ones I desire into my life. I am ambitious and able to do this.

1. My Overarching Goals for the Year

By the end of 2015 I will have bedded 12 new girl. This will be double the amount I laid in 2014 and triple that of 2013.

As of May 17th 2015 I have bedded 5 new girls.

I want to have a rotation of at least 2 different girls I am seeing in a casual relationship by the end of 2015.

I also want to find out my numbers for the # of women I need to approach to get laid. I want to do this 2-3 times to figure out how much I need to approach (assuming they are quality approaches and not spam approaches) in order to get laid and get an idea of how much I need to be meeting women to achieve these goals.

What Exactly I'm going to Improve on to bump up my current results

This year so far has been the best I have ever done with women in my life. Just in the past two months I have pulled and had sex with more girls than I ever have before (not a huge epic amount but comparing against myself the best I have ever done). However despite this I feel as if I should be getting more consistent results in ideally being able to pull and have sex with 2 or more new girls a months (assuming I'm going out regularly).

Lately I haven't been targeting many areas of seduction that I need to improve on but mostly just going out and hitting the field.

Now I want to go back to the beginning days and go out with specific areas I plan to target.

1. Not polarizing enough or in the right places- Chases latest post on the advanced boards about "how much to polarize" opened my eyes up a bit. He stated that if you are not getting the consistency that you are seeking it is probably because you are not polarizing enough in your interactions. I am going to field test this and note the results.

I am quite polarizing in my interactions already with women. I know how effective it can be and it won't be hard to push this a bit further. However in retrospect I'm not always consistently polarizing in my interactions. Meaning that in some areas that really need polarizing I fail to do so. Some interactions I fail to polarize at all.

I think ideally I should be getting HARD blowouts and HARD attraction if I amp this up a bit more.

2. Not screening for logistics properly. Not screening girls out instead of in. When night gaming I think sometimes I'll spend too much time with girls that have shitty logistics when it would be easier to just find another girl that is into me with better logistics.

3. Engaging fully in the process when I go out and meet women. Not being fully engaged when I interact with a girl.

There are some nights I go out and I feel like I'm just on autopilot and spitting shit at the wall in hopes that something will stick. I'm not turned on. I'm not ENGAGED!

I want to start practicing being more engaged.

One small tip I noticed the other night was that when I ate a small light meal before going out (a bowl of fruit instead of a full course heavy dinner) it was much easier to engage fully.

How I am going to implement this

1. Polarizing MORE and in the right places- Right now I polarize when I'm in state and I feel good and it comes naturally. I'll pull girls into me and talk about sexual shit when I know they will for sure respond to it. I need to push this farther and do these things even when I don't know if the girl will respond to it.

In other words I need to aggressively screen girls out that are not responding to my advances.

Sure I may lose some girls that may have been down to go with me but I hypothesize I will also win a lot more girls than I would have gotten if I didn't "redline" it and instead played it safer.

How I'm going to polarize more:
-Move girls as soon as they hook or at least contribute to the interaction
-Pull girls in even when I don't know if they will respond
-Aggressive touch even if I don't think she's completely ready
-Learning how to bait and get into explicitly personal sex talk FAST
-Be willing to walk away as soon as the girl stops contributing/complying
-Invite girls home with me MUCH earlier than I typically would

If the girl rejects these advances and blows me out then that is GOOD. That means she wasn't interested.

If the girl rejects my advances but sticks around then I will back off, and rebuild the emotional state of fun/sex/gangsterness and try again. If she keeps resisting then I'll NEXT.

This is aggressive screening at it's finest and my mindset in learning this is to have a lot of girls blow me out and take the emotional momentum I built in the interaction to carry it over to the next approach.

Here I want to emulate Chris from Good Looking Loser.

GLL does not wait for the perfect moment to escalate and make it smooth. He escalates when he wants to and sees if the girl bites. If she doesn't NEXT. If she does PULL.

Escalate when YOU want to escalate.

2. Not screening logistics- On a regular good night out I can get attraction from quite a few girls and some girls I stick around with but I think I need to properly screen their logistics and make a decision on whether or not it is wise to stay in the interaction or find a different girl that may have a more able situation.

To fix this I am going to

A. For every girl that hooks screen for logistics as soon as possible

B. Make a split decision based on how attracted she is and what her situation is like as to if I should stick with this girl or move on to greener pastures

C. If I make the decision to stay, and attraction maintains, commit fully, move fast, and be decisive.

3. Engaging fully and turning off autopilot behavior- I want to be fully engaged and have my brain fully activated when I'm meeting women or in interactions. I want to be able to get things down to the tiny detail of when to make a move or lead a conversation

I want to make a habit out of aiming to engage as soon as I get into conversation with someone.

Instead of drifting through an interaction on the first approach (which can lead to not building the engaged level of momentum and leading to doing the same thing on the next approach) seek to engage fully on the first approach. If I can't get there completely then do it again on the next one until I'm fully engaged.

4. Not trying to be smooth on the approach- Good looking loser pointed this out to me recently. I have a bad habit of wanting everything to go smooth especially the initial approach.

This keeps me from approaching sometimes because I'll be stuck in my head thinking of how the best way to go in so everything is smooth.

Bullshit! It's not possible to make every single opener smooth as a baby's bottom nor should I want it to.

Embrace and expect approaches not to be completely fucking smooth and become okay with that. Both parties can recalibrate once shit settles down a bit.

This is my gameplan for the next couple of months day or night game.

I'm going to stick to this and see if my results don't change.

Through the fire I go!

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Great Example on Handling Objections and Persisting

One of the areas I think I struggle with (and probably a lot of us struggle with) is being persistent upon first meeting a girl and handling her objections to getting in conversation with you.

For example the busy girl, the girl with friends, the girl that makes a first impression of you out to be "under her league", girl just trying to brush you off, and more.

We've all been there and it can be a bit frustrating to deal with because you're thinking the whole time "damn if she'd just give me a second she would probably like me".

I have noticed that the times I plough through and blow past petty objections the girl will hook immediately from the shear dominance of frame control and her having to reevaluate you as a higher value hero rather than a low value shmuck as she did originally.

Of course a lot of times the girl is just genuinely busy and not in the mood to meet anyone new in which case nothing you do will really get you anywhere and that's okay too.

However we're probably missing a few opportunities that we could've had by giving up too soon or not handling objections/persisting in the right way.

Here is a conversation thread taken from the book "The Psychology of Sales" by Brian Tracy regarding and example on the exact subject:

Brian Tracy: Mr. Brown, my name is Brian Tracy. I'm with the institute for Executive Development. I was wondering if you would be interested in a proven method that could increase your sales by 20 to 30 percent over the next twelve months? (Strong opening line here to get prospects attention and break them out of autopilot)

Prospect: Of course. What is it?

BT: Mr. Brown we've developed a method to increase your sales by 20 percent, 30 percent, and even 50 percent over the next few months.

Prospect: Really? How do you do that?

BT: That is exactly why I am calling you. I just need ten minutes of your time to show you this system, and you can decide for yourself if it applies to your company and your salespeople.

Prospect: Thanks for calling but we're not really in the market right now

BT: (roll with the punches) That's alright. Most people in the financial services industry felt the same way when I first called on them. But now they've become our best customers, and they recommend us to their friends.

Prospect: Oh really? What is it then?

BT: That's exactly what I would like to talk to you about, and I just need about ten minutes of your time. You can decide for yourself if it's right for you.

Prospect: Well can you tell me a bit about it on the phone?

BT: (don't sell the product on the phone instead get the investment to meet up at a later time) Mr. Prospect, I'd love to tell you about it on the phone, but I have something I have to show you. You need to see it personally.

Prospect: hmmm

BT: (taking responsibility and leading) Would Tuesday morning be convenient for you? Or would sometime on Wednesday afternoon be better?

Prospect: Could you send me something in the mail? (putting up resistance)

BT: I would love to mail it to you, but you know how undependable the mail can be today. Why don't I drop it off to you personally on Tuesday afternoon when I'm in the area? Will you be available at that time?

Prospect: All right why don't you call me Monday and we can set up a specific time to get together next week? (trying to control the frame in his favor so he doesn't have to deal with a sales man)

BT: Mr. Prospect, I've got my calendar here in front of me. Do you have your schedule handy? (Completely derail the guys last frame and reframed things)

Prospect: Yeah give me a second

BT: Lets set up a specific time right now. If something comes up and this time doesn't work for you, you can give us a call and we can reschedule. Would Tuesday afternoon at around 3 oclock be convenient for you?"

Prospect: Yes that works I can do that. I'll have Sarah pencil you in

BT: Great my # is 999-9999. Thank you Mr. Prospect you are really going to like what I have to show you

Don't have time to further break this down and obviously some parts of this example are a little unrealistic but you get the gist of things.

Basically you dominante the frame and break past the key resistance points.

Obviously this is probably easier in seduction where you can make a witty comment and more light hearted in conversation while still dominating the frame.

Comment below any additional thoughts on this and any tips off the top of your head that you use to break past initial resistance to interact with you off the initial approach.

-Rob