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These approaches remind me of mine when i was younger and in school. I noticed (as I did) you are missing "edge" with these girls/approaches

Thanks so much for pointing this out because I was very stuck on figuring out what was missing in my vibe.

Ditch the "are you single" opener, it's more for advanced guys with a bad boy vibe who are amused with women and truly not give a fuck much what happens. You are still learning, thus stick to indirect openers but also more pauses, more aloofness after she's investing in your conversation.

lol I've tried "are you single" opener a couple times and I agree u def need a bad boy vibe for this to work. Otherwise, the girl just look at u (or assessing u) and say no then walk away.

It's weird that I'm more comfortable with direct openers than indirect. With indirect, it felt very hard to move things forward lol. But I've yet to try indirect direct.

Your body language should be pointing away from her because she has your attention not the other way around.
I think I've got this one down pretty good. Talking to them over the shoulder just seems more natural.

Flip the script, your words/ statements to these girls betray hints of guy who is scare to move forward with a girl. If you read my "Tips and Tricks" thread you see links to Heartiste, another great seducer whose style is almost similar to mine, give or take a few things that are different. Read them, apply them and see if they work for you. It might be time to level up and his style might just work for you. Like I like to say blend styles together to improve your own.

Will definitely check it out and incorporate it =) Thanks

As my oneitis once told me when she turned me down, "You have to be more blunt, more direct. I didn't know you liked me until it started to become apparent and then I finally figured it out" Her words still haunt me till this day...

lol mine probably still doesn't know I had a thing for her, but that was a long time ago. ;)
 

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Wasn't planning to go out today, but the weather is just so nice I had to leave the house.
I also decided to consciously make the sexy smile my default facial expression, and now I believe that your body language does influence your state because I was feeling happy for no reason.
Went to the same mall as yesterday. I thought I should change the venue but I was busing so the other mall, which is bigger, is too far and tbh I don't know which bus to take to get there lol.
I rarely take public transport, but maybe I should start doing it. It allows me to get into the zone, and I was less nervous by the time I got to the mall. Maybe it's because once u get on the bus, there's no turning back (unless u get off the bus and take the return bus of course, but that's just too much work lol stay on the bus would be the path of least resistance).
I can't remember the order in which I met these girls.
#1 blonde
she had a very interesting mix of hair colour - blonde, blue red
She walked past me and was walking at a pretty fast pace. She was looking the other way at the shop window. Tap her on the shoulder. No response.
Then tap her again and said "excuse me"
she turned around but still walking fast. Delivered my opener.
Turned out she was going to the bank and need to catch a bus later.
Troubleshoot
- she was in a rush
- voice could've been better.

#2
This time the girl was walking slower, so that's good. No more speed walking.
did the preopening - tap her on the shoulder, smile, then make eye contact.
Still a bit nervous for this one.
Turned out she's already married, but she said thanks.
Troubleshoot
- opener was a little too fast

#3
Saw this girl going up the escalator. Caught up to her.
and opened direct.
Opener was delivered too fast and too nervous.
Started chatting with her, she was studying forensic science.
lol my natural instinct to that reply was - "so you don't like dealing with people?"
But I felt like that was probably not good for building rapport because I'm just making assumptions.
Instead I asked her "why?" with a curious look. She just give me some kind of non-answer that I can't remember.
We quickly ran out of things to say. Partly because I was too nervous. and concentrated more on my voice than the conversation. My voice did become sexier in the end, but it's already too late.
Trouble shoot
- slow down on your opener even if you're nervous.
- Need to do a little bit of banter before deep diving.

Bumped into this chick later on in the mall again lol I think it's pretty obvious why I'm at the mall now. I caught her looking at me before I even noticed her. she was looking pretty awkward (and gave me a really awkward vibe...hmm so people do really sense your vibe. Your body language shows them that) so I gave her a slight smile then she smiled back awkwardly as well.

#4 emo chick
I decided to go outside because I feel better on the street. Saw this chick crossing the street.
Did my opener really slow and with a cheeky smile. Hmm it worked great. She was smiling before I even said she has an interesting sense of style.
But during one point of the conversation, she told me she was only 17 and in high school. I said "you're probably too young for me then" jokingly, but she took it somehow seriously.
Her: "hmm yea maybe"
Can't believe I fking disqualified her without adding a compliment before that. Or why did I even do that so early in the interaction.
After that, she becomes aloof and cold lol

#5 blonde
Saw this girl walking out of the mall and sit on a bench. I chickened out because there were a girl walking behind me and a couple guys sitting around, who might notice I'm picking up girls. As I walked away for a few seconds, I remembered something Liam Mcrae said. Smart people can make up the smartest excuse about not picking up girls. So I stopped walking, and use my peripherals to check where she is now. It seemed like she's getting up and walking towards me. I didn't turn to look at her, but as she walked past, I used the "are you single" opener with a playful smile.
lol she looked at me for a second and said "nnnnno".

#6 girl walking a dog
I saw this girl walking a dog when I was on a bus, so I decided to get off one stop early and walked towards her. (another benefit of taking a bus, don't need to worry about parking lol)
This one I opened quite well, because I honestly stop giving a fuck to how girls react now lol. I think I've seen pretty much all kinds of reactions.
Opened really slow and with pauses
"excuse me....I saw you walking here" then I start to smile "thought you're really cute....so I had to come and say hi"
She responded well.
We started talking. Turned out she was still at high school. Man where are all the uni girls at? What are some good topics high school girls talk about? Seems like all they do is just hanging out with friends. Need to remind myself most people live an ordinary life. It's up to you to get them to open up.
Didn't really connect with her. and her dogs were licking my jeans, which was a bit distracting lol. Still need to work on better deep diving and incorporating some banter early on, and to do that I need to be relaxed.
What I did screw up was that I said "Let's hang out sometime if that's alright with you". lol please stop doing that man.
She told me she had a lot of school work to do so she can't. But what's interesting was she stayed after that and didn't eject herself.
There was an awkward silence shortly after that and I don't know if I should keep talking to her or get her number after she rejected me lol
So we part ways.

So the last interaction was interesting. and now I can fully understand that it does take a bit of time to warm up. And it's important to get yourself in a social mood.

Note: I thought I saw this cute blonde I opened yesterday (with "are you single) at the bus stop today. I saw her walking towards the bus stop. I was planning to stop her but as she walked closer I began to realize who she was. I started to smile and thought "what a small world...I need a new venue". I glanced away and smile. As she walked past me, I could see her face clearly and saw a ghost of a smile but she did not make eye contact. lol She's even sexier than I remembered (of course with more make up than yesterday).
 

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Objectives
1. fundamentals - sexy smile, voice
2. conversation - light banter first then deep dive and need to relate more. Clear negative thoughts.
3. incorporate cold reads.
 

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Check out my latest post on my thread. Might give you examples of what and how to better your approaches next time...
 

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Check out my latest post on my thread. Might give you examples of what and how to better your approaches next time...

yea I've seen good looking losers. I think he's nervous guy game works for him because he's fundamentals are pretty tight and he's vibe is dominant and relaxed, so it's a nice contrast for him. I don't know if he always talks a lot or just at the early stage to warm up the girl, but it worked so well at girl #3 in the video lol didn't know hot girls are shy!
and I still can't believe the first girl ran away lol. Otherwise a pretty awesome video.

But I would like to see a really nervous newbie doing that shit lol cuz u can't fake the confidence that comes from experience.
 

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I don't think a newbie could pull it off, shit I don't think i could pull all those off like he did. The girls would ignore him till he went away and he would sound awkward and actually nervous, which would kill his chance the second he opened his mouth. Girls say to be "yourself", but we know what happens when do and these girls are merciless if we are.
One can really tell who has experience vs who doesn't. Thus, why it's good to get tight fundamentals and experience under our belt.
 

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I don't think a newbie could pull it off, shit I don't think i could pull all those off like he did. The girls would ignore him till he went away and he would sound awkward and actually nervous, which would kill his chance the second he opened his mouth.
One can really tell who has experience vs who doesn't. Thus, why it's good to get tight fundamentals and experience under our belt.

lol yup painful memories, but once u've been through it. It's easier next time and the time after and so on.
 

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Just reporting in on what happened today. Went to the mall again in the morning cuz my mum wanted to do grocery shopping. So I thought why not, even though I'm really sick of that place now.

Can't remember how many girls I opened, but I think it was around 5 or 6. Not bad for a weekday morning.
Things I've done well
- voice - practiced the voice exercise last night and it def improved my voice, and also deliberately slopes down the end of my words( so thanks StoicMind and Richard)
- "approach anxiety"? what's that?
- Now I just need to stop trying to do 'the perfect approach', which made me hesitated a couple of times and missed out on the opportunities.
- Preopen gives u a lot warmer reception. Less intimidating for both me and her.

Things to improve
- Banter - did alright but could do better now that I'm reflecting on it.
- Deep dive - need to remind myself the concepts. Sometimes my mind just goes on autopilot (more like too occupied with my fundamentals) and not listening to what she's saying. Need to relate.
- get compliance from the start
- get used to asking for numbers and dates.

an important thing that I suddenly remembered when I was gyming. "don't let the previous interaction affect you. Every new interaction is a new start"
Can't remember where I heard it from, but it was a good insight.
 

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Today was just a day of self-reflection (or laziness). But will go out again tomorrow, hence why I've to write it here to give my ego some accountability.
some interesting things I've noticed based on other's journal and my own experience.

I used to get numbers and thought it's not that hard, but for some reasons the amount of number close I've got has decreased. Maybe it's cause I'm better at telling who's actually interested and less likely to waste my time, but I could also be letting chances go past. (Heck I got a date before from a girl I thought wasn't interested, and had great fun with her.)

Goals for tomorrow
1. ask their number anyway even if I didn't feel the connection. I'm not that experience enough to tell who isn't interested.
2. a few tweaks on my opener - add a pause and a slow smile and squint before the most important part of the opener. I've done it before without realizing it and it def worked great. Now I need to be consistent.
3. Banter/Deep dive - work on my banter early on in the interaction (Sometimes I deep dive too quick or too much) and just say things that I thought was funny, not because I want to please the girl (but also not insult her of course). Need to relate more when deep diving.
4. Fundamentals baby! - especially voice. Deliberately slow it down also makes u less nervous.

I got this!
 

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did mall game today (different mall).
Started off a bit nervous not gonna lie. Opened I think 5 girls.
Mall game is kind harder than street game I think. Hot girls almost never shop alone. Guess I've to start practicing opening two girls. (can barely handle one already)
#1 an asian lady. turned out her face isn't that pretty up close. A bit old. Almost my aunt's age. Had to repeat myself for the opener. Thought my voice was good.

#2 I thought I opened well, but I think my voice was too monotone lol I opened her just for practice.

#3 bookstore
Lessons from this one
- never start with "excuse me" when the girl is stationary. She would think she's blocking you or something. A simple "hi" with a smile is enough.
- Opened direct then turned into an awkward conversation because ran out of things to say. Let's analyze this.
Me: "So what kinda books are you looking for?"
Her: "just elves, dwarfs..that kinda stuff"
Me: "

#4 the bitch (okay, I know we aren't suppose to be bitter but let me explain this)
 

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[Gonna re-post since my computer fked up]
did mall game today (different mall).
Started off a bit nervous not gonna lie, but that's just part of the game.
Mall game is kind harder than street game I think. Hot girls almost never shop alone. Guess I've to start practicing opening two girls. (can barely handle one already)
#1 an asian lady. turned out her face isn't that pretty up close. looked a bit old. Almost my aunt's age. Had to repeat myself for the opener, but more like she didn't understand the words I used. Thought my voice was good.

#2 I thought I opened well, but I think my voice was too monotone lol I opened her to warm up.
She said "Hi" twice after my opener, like she's freaking out about what to do, then said she needed to meet her friend. lol too much pressure for her?

#3 bookstore
Lessons from this one
- never start with "excuse me" when the girl is stationary. She would think she's blocking you or something. A simple "hi" with a smile is enough.
- Opened direct then turned into an awkward conversation because ran out of things to say. Let's analyze this.
Me: "So what kinda books are you looking for?"
Her: "the elves. U?"
Me: "yea just looking for something to read...so u like that kinda stuff?"
Her: "Yea I've actually finish that series...the magician. I like elves, dwarfs and that kinda stuff"
Me: "I bet u've read the Lord of the Ring" [could've done a better cold read like "I get the feeling you like to go on adventures", but I was just saying what's on my mind]
Her: "Actually I've never read the Lord of the Ring"
Me: "But U live in NZ!" said it incredulously. (Bad tease I think) [should have thread direct from here on. "Really? but u live in NZ...So what do you do for fun when you're not immersing yourself with elves and dwarfs?" ]
Her: "Well yea.."
Me: "So is that book any good?" points to the book the musician" [sigh..started getting into impersonal stuff]
Her: "Yea"
Me: "Not a girly book?"
Her: "lol no I don't read girly books"
I started to get nervous because I'm afraid we're gonna running out of things to say. My body language and voice got stiff.
Me: "U know how I can tell u like that sorta stuff"
Her: "?" looks intrigued
Me: "cause of your nail polish. It has a very unique colour, kinda medieval =)"
Her: "haha blah blah blah secretly ?" Didn't hear what she said, so I didn't know how to respond.
Me: "haha yea"
awkward silence
Her: "So I gotta get back...very nice to meet you =)"
Me: "See ya"
Later on saw her at the checkout counter with two guys lol It's a small bookstore by the way


#4 She's not in the right mood
Saw her texting and walking.
Walked up next to her and opened her.
She looked at me at first then kept her head down looking at her phone, not stopping and I continued to walk next to her and deliver my compliment slowly with lots of pauses to see if she'll stop or even make eye contact, but no.
Her: "thank you" in a monotone and still looking at her phone completely ignoring me.
I was like "wow..." then walked away. She wasn't even that cute.

#5
After that previous interaction. I got caught in my head wondering what the hell I did wrong. That kinda ruin my state.
Opened this girl walking out of the mall.
Turned out she worked here. Not surprised. I bet 80% of the cute girls in the mall work here.
Opened alright, but she was in a rush to a friend's birthday party.
I was a bit hesitant during the conversation since I don't want to set a bad example with the staff.
After I complimented her
Her: "Oh thank you but this is my work clothes lol"
Me: "oh really? U work here?" I think a better response would be "aww so normally u look gorgeous"
Her: "yea I work at blah blah blah"
Me: "Sounds like a fashion store"
Her: "yea..I actually have to rush to a friend's birthday party"
Me: "oh have u bought a present for her?" (my voice sped up here...damn)
Her: "no I haven't. That's why I'm in a rush haha "
Me: "haha okay. I'll let u go then"
Her: "Thank you =) it was really nice meeting u"

Then opened the next two girls in quick succession.
#6 probably the smoothest open I've done, but I didn't push myself after the opener. She was intrigued and wanted to stay to talk but I sent her away. (seriously if you were there watching, you would be like "wtf is he doing? Don't let her go!")
She was walking slow (finally someone who's not in a rush)
Opened her really slowly. (a lot slower than my usual slow)
Walk up to her. "excuse me" not making eye contact yet. She looked my way.
Me: "Hi"
Her: "Hi"
locked eye contact and paused for a second.
Delivered my opener a lot slower than my usual "slow". Just pronounce every word like it's delicious, and pretend you're telling her a dirty secret.
Me: "I just saw u walking here.....u have...the most...lovely sense of style...I've seen all day"
Her face brightens up and fully face me. I think the tension was so strong I couldn't handle it lol don't even remember her name.

#7 Opened the next girl the same way. same effects but she told me she had to go.

Things I did right (at least some of the time)
- pay a girl a compliment like you mean it.
- voice (but needs to be consistent)

Things to improve
- Deep diving - Need to make deep dive more personal and emotional, which means thread directing when talking about impersonal stuff. Also need to relate.
- Fundamentals - work on relaxing myself first, then the rest just follows.
and also need a haircut.
 

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went to the gym in the afternoon.
On my way home, thought I HAD to opened at least one girl, so quickly drive to the mall and was still wearing my gym clothes.
As I walked in, saw this grumpy looking asian out of the corner of my eye walking pass me. Thought to myself "She looks pretty angry and not so cute with her grumpy face"
But turned around, followed her for a few seconds until there's a window. She has a pretty curvy body that's hidden under her clothes. (ever since I read Chase's article on "you're passing up the hottest, coolest girl", I've been checking out girl's body differently)

Opened her pretty relaxed. (maybe it's the testosterone boost I just got from gyming)
Turned out her face wasn't so bad when she's smiling. Proud of myself for the opener. Pretty smooth.
But I unexpectedly cut off her when she was about to say something, which lead to the awkward "what?" from both sides. lol
Still made her day.

Then walked around for 5 minutes. Not many people there. Everyone's heading home, so I left.
 

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Was very reluctant to go to the mall today, and I kept making smart excuses for not going, but I pushed myself out of the house.
Once I got there, I have to say I was feeling out of the zone with the environment because there were a lot of people and I have no idea what to do.
Feeling nervous, then decided to screw it, the first girl doesn't even count anyway.
Hesitated but still opened this sexy chick (her body was sexy but her face was just ok) , I felt like a stalker waiting for her to walk out of the store lol I think I caught her staring at me when she was looking out of the store.
Once she walked out, I opened her. Forgot to preopen, so it was just ok.

After that, I felt much better.
Saw this asian chick walking towards me. Let her walk past then turn around and catch up to her.
I think I preopened her (?). Can't remember now. Sometimes I just do it automatically, almost like a routine.
Turned out she didn't speak much english. And this was good because it forced me to speak even slower and sexier so she could understand.
Tried to take her number, but she doesn't have a local number, so she suggested Line, which I have deleted on my phone because I barely use it.
I took down her Line ID anyway. I asked her when she's free the next few days because I'm gonna go oversea soon, and she said she's busy.
So the only way it was gonna work was to go on an insta-date.
The date was fun, but I think I had too much fun teasing her (in a good way of course). I couldn't deep dive her much because she doesn't understand my questions.
I touched on a few sexual topics and she responded well. I managed to feel her arm and stomach when she said she likes to run.
Near the end of the date, she asked me if I live near the mall. (Now I think about it, I realized I probably missed an escalation window.)
But damn...I live quite far anyway. The only place I could pull her was to my car, but I didn't seed it before that. ooops!
I knew I should've ended the date first, but I hesitated, then she said she has to go and told me to add her on Line.
Before we said goodbye, I said Gimme a hug, she laughed and said no, but I pulled her in for a quick hug anyway.
The date felt more like a english lesson for her, so I guess I'm being slotted into the provider/bf zone.
Don't think I'll be seeing her again. since I won't be back in town for a while.
This was my first insta-date, and it was fun.

Things I did well
- facial expression, eye contact
- Voice
- Had fun

Caught myself slouching during the date and had to correct myself.
 

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Last day before I go on a trip oversea tomorrow. Went to two different malls.
A pattern I've discovered that's holding me back. I can control my nerves and even to the point where I don't think at all when I'm walking up to the girl, BUT hesitation is killing me.
I hate myself for missing those chances, but after reading Rob's awesome article today (https://www.girlschase.com/content/7-decisions-every-man-who-will-be-successful-makes), I need to forgive myself so I can move on.

Overall, I can deliver my opener pretty good. The first girl I opened even smiled before I even get to my compliment.
The second one I think I paused for just a second too long after my preopen, and I looked a little too serious but it still ended up well.
The third one surprised me, because I was stuck in that hesitation mode again, but pushed myself out of it.
We actually flirted right after my opener, and she even playfully punched my arm 20 seconds into the interaction.
I let myself go in this interaction and started talking in a sexual tone from the onset, and she loved it.
Too bad she told me she was married in the end though LOL

Things I did right today
1. fundamentals - voice (the voice exercise helps a lot, a friend I haven't seen for a while told me I sound different on the phone the other day.) Although if I could speak a little louder and a little bit slower, then it would be even better.
2. getting sexual from the onset in a natural, fun and flirty way. Don't try to force it. Remember it would also depends on the state of the girl as well.
3. Letting myself go in the conversation. Go in the unfiltered mode and enjoy the conversation. Let my subconscious take care of the techniques.

Things to work on next time
1. Fundamentals
2. Light banter/deep dive/screening & qualifying - need to relate, it's how you qualify her by showing interest.
3. Cold reads
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

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Day 1 in sydney

Arrived at the airport at 4.30am tired as fk, but still excited about the day. Got my ticket and walked to the security. Noticed this girl behind me, but not sure how to open, and it seemed like we were gonna be on the same plane, so I decided to wait. Turned out I made the right decision.
Saw her sitting alone at the gate, and there were no one else. I walked up to her and said "hi".
She instantly opened up to me. It was pretty interesting talking to her. She was spontaneous and well-traveled, but during the conversation she told me she has a bf, and she was going back to her country and probably won't come back. So I just enjoyed my conversation with her. We connected a lot and talked for an hour non-stop before the gate opened. I didn't even noticed there were a lot of people around us already. It seemed like a scene in the movie where it's almost not mean to be. As we walked to the gate, we joked about how it would be funny if we ever meet again at some other airport. Since my seat was at the back, hers at the front, she got off the plane earlier, and I didn't see her again.

One interesting thing she told me about australians is how racist they are towards asians (no offence to aussies, most of u are awesome).
That kinda bothered me a little. As I arrived at Sydney airport, I took the train towards the central station. On the train, I saw this blonde chick sitting alone, but there were also other two guys nearby. She was pretty cute, but her face was expressionless. I was standing next to the door with my luggage. I checked my fundamentals and look straight ahead. Out of the peripherals of my vision, I saw her looking my way, and maybe was checking me out. Not long after, her stop is near, and she got up and walked towards the door. I caught her sneak a peak at me and when she saw that, she looked side way avoiding my gaze. I felt like I should've opened her.
Once I put my luggage at my bro's place. I started off opening 3 asians and they all had their guards up and were non-receptive. Right there, I thought I'm gonna have a hard time this week.

But I kept pushing on. I hesitated to open some white girls because I was afraid they were gonna be racist, but i realized how stupid that is. Rejection is just part of the process. So I opened this petite blonde in the park, and boy I was surprised. She was warm and receptive. But I was thinking too much in my head and wasn't present in the moment. With that new reference point. I immediately opened another white girl sitting by herself on the grass. I slowly walked up to her and when I caught her eye contact. I smiled and she smiled back. I didn't really plan my opener, but just let it flow naturally, and she was warm as well. This time I was in the moment, and the conversation flowed naturally, but she mentioned she was waiting for her bf. I let the conversation died down naturally and said goodbye. After these two experiences, I realized that white girls here are no different than the white girls back in my country. As I kept walking, I saw this French girl walking past. I immediately opened her slowly and not think too much about what I was gonna say. She was warm as well, but she wasn't interested. She pointed me towards a monument in the park and recommended me to check it out.

After I checked out the monument, I saw a blonde sitting on the grass reading. Did the same thing I did before and she responded well, but told me she has a bf during our conversation. Strangely, soon after we started talking and started to get into the conversation and I was in the most relaxed and calmed vibe, she started putting on her jacket and packing up saying that she wanted to sit somewhere else because the building was blocking the sun, which was true because we were now sitting in the shade. (strangely, even though it's winter in sydney it still feels pretty warm to me). At this point, I feel awkward if I just followed her, so I told her I have to go and she was still pretty warm towards me as we say goodbye (hmm weird).

After this, I went to have lunch. As I walked out of the restaurant, I saw this asian with a nice ass. Followed her for a minute, waiting for the right opportunity to open ( a bad habit). After I opened her, she seemed shocked and surprised. I played along and acknowledged that it's pretty random, but still maintained good eye contact.(which is key because if u break it here, it makes u seem weak) Then I told her to show me some good places around the city, and she agreed and we immediately went on an insta-date. She told me she has to do some shopping for her grandad's bday and buy some clothes quickly, and asked me if I mind wait for a bit. I knew I shouldn't have agreed to that and should've playfully lead her, but I was new here and it was her turf. It was hard to keep the conversation going during the transition point since I was following her. She was also trying to be sarcastic about why she should be showing me around. In respond to this, I told her I can go if she wanted me to in a non-needy, chilled tone. She said no. I also try to re-frame this physically by walking with her at the same pace and when she's shopping around, I looked around myself checking if there's anything interesting instead of just following her. Many times during the conversation, she still said to me how random this is and said she was gonna tell her friends all about it ( lol yea I bet ;)) I also realized I was bantering too much, and not enough rapport was build.

We went to a chocolate place in the mall that I didn't actually know, so that was cool!. She started to open up to me and asked me if I've a gf. I deflected it and ask her if she has a bf. Then she told me no, but she wasn't over her ex-bf, but she broke up with him because they weren't happy. He seemed to be the only guy she has ever been with. This girl seemed to be an emotional mess. She's kinda cynical and she said she only hang out with her ex when they're both drunk. she also told me she's turning 18 soon and can't wait to go clubbing. At this point, I'm kinda screening her out, since she wasn't too happy with her life right now. She has that depressed look and vibe when she's not talking. I can sense it because my ex-gf used to be like that as well. As we walked out of the mall, we bid each other farewell, and I didn't bother taking down her contact detail.

As I was walking towards the train station, saw this columbian chick walking towards me. Opened her and she was warm and receptive. Number closed her quickly and asked her if she would like to go check out the city with me soon. Asked what her plan for tomorrow is, and she told me she is going to watch soccer - Columbia vs (insert a country).
She was pretty eager when giving me her number. I texted her with my foreign number on my way home, and she still hasn't responded to my ice breaker text (probably because it was a foreign number?) But funnily when I got back, my dad bought me a Australia sim card.....lol maybe I should've waited.

At the train station, opened another chick, but it seemed like she was in a rush to catch a train. But my voice was also a little bit too quiet given the loud environment of the train station. I was afraid there are people around hearing this. I shouldn't let this bother me at all. nobody cares what u do. most people are too stuck in their own world.

Things I did right today
- Fundamentals - eye contact, voice (although needs to be more consistent and aware)
- banter
- in the moment - speak from the heart instead of stuck in my head. Go into the unfiltered mode.
- deep diving - well sometimes.
- cold reads

Things to improve
- Fundamentals
- banter/deep diving/screening & qualifying - forgot to relate
- cold reads
- sexual frames
 

BarryS1

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Smith, sounds like you are having fun on vacation! You are an approaching machine!

Right there, I thought I'm gonna have a hard time this week.

Hell no, you are just getting started.

I immediately opened another white girl sitting by herself on the grass. I slowly walked up to her and when I caught her eye contact. I smiled and she smiled back. I didn't really plan my opener, but just let it flow naturally, and she was warm as well. This time I was in the moment, and the conversation flowed naturally, but she mentioned she was waiting for her bf. I let the conversation died down naturally and said goodbye. After these two experiences, I realized that white girls here are no different than the white girls back in my country. As I kept walking, I saw this French girl walking past. I immediately opened her slowly and not think too much about what I was gonna say. She was warm as well, but she wasn't interested. She pointed me towards a monument in the park and recommended me to check it out.

That's what I'm talking about! Keep us posted!
 

Smith

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Thanks for the support Barry! It has definitely been fun, and today was just as good.

Woke up this morning and found a missed call from my ex. lol I was hoping to get a text back from the girl yesterday, but na... disappointing. Went to the city again and I was planning to visit the art gallery and the botanic garden. I hopped off the train a few stations earlier so I can do some street pickup on my way there. First chick I opened was an asian, she responded well, but doesn't seem to be interested.

Next, I saw this girl waiting to cross the road. Not sure how to open her, so I just walked up next to her and said "hi". It took her a few second to realize I was talking to her. (maybe should've preopened). She turned around and the light turned green. I delivered my opener slowly as we cross the road. I found that if u pause during your opener, and assess her reaction, you can continue to deliver the compliment much better than if you just pause and not really assessing the situation. External awareness is really important I just realized. I finally understand why naturals are good at this. They don't get stuck in their head. They're constantly assessing the situation and adjust on the fly. She looked at me seriously as I delivered my opener, I paused for a bit before I delivered my compliment to create a dramatic effect ;) , and she instantly cracked into a smile and was warm and receptive. We bantered for a bit about where she was from, and she was enjoying it. Then suddenly she turned left and walked into this building (It's where she was working I think), and I suddenly tripped myself by stepping in to a shallow hole. ( LOL I was laughing at myself so hard inside...this was not smooth at all). I felt like I could've taken her number quickly, but damn that shallow hole ruined my vibe, so I just let her go.

Walked through a park and saw this girl sitting on the grass alone. Couldn't quite see her face clearly, and I was wondering if I should go up to her. Said to myself. "Alright! whatever! I'm going!". I walked around a bit so she could see me walking up to her. Once I caught her eye contact, I said "Hi" and smiled. Kneel down next to her and delivered my opener. Then I sit down just slightly opposite her. The whole thing feels so natural to me now. I locked myself in. It turned out she was from Italy, I guessed France, but told her it was close enough and she laughed. She told me she's leaving today, so shit that wasn't gonna work out. We talked and bantered for a bit. As we got up, she moved closer to me that our shoulders were touching. hmmm interesting. Then we said goodbye.

As I kept walking through the park, saw this girl walking next to me. I hesitated about whether I should open or not because there was a family walking in front of us. The family started to drift aside. Perfect. I preopened her then delivered my opener. She was warm and receptive. We ended up spending the rest of the day together exploring the city. She just got here yesterday and was staying at a friend's for two days. I told her about my plan to go to the art gallery and she told me she's gonna go check out the opera house first. In the beginning, she kept mentioning she wanted to get coffee, I took that as a good sign so as we were talking and walking, we arrived at the opera house. The view was beautiful, but it was a really windy day. (If it wasn't windy, it'd have been perfect). I felt like I didn't touch her enough and things got platonic (and it did). Although I started a few sexual topics early on, it didn't continue later on. As we walked along the pier, we found a cafe. She asked me if I'd like to join her for coffee. oh sure why not! The view was awesome. It was nice to sit there enjoying the view with a cute girl. Then we walked around the opera house, and she invited herself to come along with me to the art gallery. (man as I'm writing this, I realized I wasn't being aggressive enough). The conversation got a little drag. Sometimes I can't relate to what she was talking and I wasn't qualifying her that much. oops.

We walked around the art gallery for a while. It was a big place. We joked around a bit about the paintings, but sometimes she would wander away herself. I didn't follow her around. I just took note of which direction she went and enjoyed the paintings myself. then we would slowly drift back together. After the art gallery, not sure what to do, we just walked into the city. I suggested we flipped a coin to decide where to go, and she seemed excited. We found a map and I told her I heard this observatory place seemed cool, so we started walking there. Sometimes there would be a silence between us but it's no longer awkward. She told me she was glad she met me because it's good to have someone to share your experience with. As we got to the place, it was small and intimate. I don't know if it was just me, but I could feel a little bit of sexual tension. I'm still not touching her enough.

As we walked out of this place. We decided to flip the coin again to decide whether we should go back or to explore further more. The coin said to go back, but we looked at each other said screw the coin, lets explore further more, and walked into an unknown territory. Then we found ourselves entering a market place. We found a cool bar and had late lunch. Then we walked around checking out the market. It was getting late and she said she had to go back and I agreed because my knee was killing me. On the walk back, we didn't talk much, and as we walked through the park, she joked about this is where we met. My knee was really starting to hurt and I was trying hard not to show it. As we reached the end of the park, we said our goodbye, and maybe we'll meet again in the future. Overall, I felt like I didn't physically escalate enough or screening/qualifying and deep diving could've been better. I felt like I got stuck when I started to worry about these things. should've just relax.

Things got platonic towards the end, but it was still fun for me. I totally didn't expect it to happen. I was gonna do art gallery pick up, but it was really nice to just hang out with her. Otherwise, the art gallery wouldn't have been that interesting if there's no one to share it with.
As I walked home, I could barely walk because my left knee hurts like fuck. I hope it will get better tomorrow.

Things I did right
- opening naturally
- bantering
- Deep diving
- be in the moment

Things to improve
- fundamentals - it slipped sometime during the interaction
- Bantering, Deep diving (focus on emotional aspects of the topic and relate more), Screening/qualifying (need to incorporate it)
- cold reads - just a reminder that I can use it
- sexual frames - need to find a way to make it seem natural in the conversation.
 

Smith

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Didn't go out yesterday because my bloody knee was hurting so much I couldn't even go down the stairs, so I had to take a day off =( Who knew walking all day for daygame can be detrimental to your feet! =p
Nontheless, I made it up for today. Since I couldn't walk fast or for too long, I decided to station somewhere that has high foot traffic and man it saves me more energy and time than walking around. It was a long day because I got a lot of interactions that went nowhere or got platonic.
As I got off the train, thought I saw a cute asian standing alone with her head down texting and her hair covering her head. couldn't see the face. So I slowly walked past her. Not thinking too much, but then my gut instinct told me to go back. This time, I hovered around until I caught her looking at me. wow, her face was cute. My gut instinct was right. I waited for a few seconds, then slowly walked up to her and opened her. It turned out she prefers to speak in chinese, and although I can converse in chinese, I really prefer english since it feels more natural to me. So I switched back to english. Asked her what her plans are, and she told me she has to study for an English exam that's required for her to work here. So I screened her out, since she'll be too busy for what I've in mind. During the conversation, she kept checking her phone and calling this guy who's suppose to be here 20 min ago to help her with the English test. She walked away for 5-10 meters looking for him. I didn't follow her like some needy guy. I just stood still, smile and look out to the distance. And she eventually walked back. I can tell she becomes quite intrigued. I told her. Let's go get coffee and I'll teach her. She said something like "but I have to wait for my friend". Although I could've persisted more, I felt she wasn't actually gonna ditch her friend, so I dropped it.
Then we after a few more lines of conversation. We just said goodbye.

Then I walked to a park right next to the station. Opened a couple of girls. The one that stood out was a girl who was immediately playing with her hair slowly right after I delivered my opener. I've never seen such a strong IOI. She told me she has to go to work. So I just say goodbye, but deep down my gut is telling me "Should've number closed her".

Next, I slowly walked to the harbour. I was tempted to just call a taxi, but I heard taxi is expensive in sydney (like 1$/m). As I finally got to the harbour, there was a good crowd. oh good. Found a bench to rest my knee. Saw this asian chick walking past me. Caught her sneak a peek at me. I got up and she then sit down on a bench not far away. As soon as I started to sit down next to her and smile and say "hi". She immediately got up and left. LOL. maybe I sit down too fast or something. But her eyes looked a bit crazy anyway.

Then later, opened this blonde that was sitting down looking into the crowd. I felt my opener for this one wasn't genuine enough. I felt numb when I open.
We had an okay conversation. Felt like she was trying to be polite. So I exit not long after.

Next one was a hot brazilian chick. I think my voice got a little quiet for this one and screwed up. When I asked her to take off her sunglasses, she looked exotic and sexy.

Then I opened this girl sitting on a bench by herself looking a bit sad. I walked up to her and opened her. She was a sexy German, but was leaving today. (sigh..why does this keep happening to me).

Then I walked to the other side of the harbour where people sit and chill on the sidewalk. Opened 5-6 girls, but only remembered the ones that I actually had at least some connection with.
I was hesitating when I opened this girl because there were people sitting around, but pushed myself to do this. She responded well. But I was afraid to dive deeper for some reason...like I was afraid that I won't be able to come up for air, but I regretted it because our conversation stayed on the surface. I saw opportunities to dive deeper, but didn't go for it. Oh well. Next time.

Another one I remembered was this girl sitting by herself, but there were people sitting around as well, so I hesitated until one of them was gone and gave me a little space to open. I used a situational opener that opened badly. I've never been good at it, but it was worth a try. My voice was too quiet as well. She was a tourist as well, but her plans didn't give me enough time to get her out on a date, so didn't closer her.

Then I bought lunch and sit down somewhere on the sidewalk. I couldn't help but notice two blondes who kept looking my way. They weren't together but were sitting kinda next to each other. They both had their sunglasses on, so I can only see their heads turning this way.

Then I kinda feel a bit frustrated, so I walked along the harbour towards the aquarium. Saw this cute asian walking past looking at the shops. I immediately turned around and caught up to her. It turned out she's from my country as well. what a coincident. After a bit of conversation, I asked her if she wanna grab coffee, she told me she just had coffee, I suggested chocolate, then we both started walking towards a chocolate shop nearby. She immediately mentioned during our conversation that she has a bf. (she also kept mentioning him several times after as well, but I was non-responsive). There was a long line at the chocolate shop, so we decided to go somewhere. She asked me what my plan was, I told her i was planning to see the aquarium. She immediately invited herself along. lol. hmm okay, not so sure about this. As we kept walking, there was no other shops nearby, so I just said. Let's just go to the aquarium. and we started walking there. I

At the aquarium, it was rather awkward at first when they asked to take a picture of us as souvenirs. As we walked around, I couldn't help but notice that she actually has a nice body and it was turning me on. Several times during our conversation, I put my hand around her hips and her back and motioned her to look at something. She doesn't seem to be rejecting it. But when I tried to grab her hand, she pulled away immediately. Maybe it was too bf-ish.
I started making some sexual humour like "hey look, the sexiest fish in the world"

After the aquarium, we sit down on a bench on a bridge looking out at the great view. She was starting to open up. There were also a lot of silences. I don't know why, but it felt natural to me. I have to say. It's kinda tiring to be a good conversationalist. I do enjoy it, but when you've been talking to people all day. You get tired at the end of the day, like you just fail to relate to when you should be. It was getting cold, so she suggested we go somewhere inside with a couch. I asked why does it have to have a couch?. She said it's because she's short. lol. We couldn't find a place with a couch, so we just sit on a bench inside a mall because my knee was killing me.
I really wish I live closer to the city so I could pull her to somewhere private. I don't feel comfortable doing public escalation.

During our conversation, I started to deep dive about her relationship. They were together for 5 years - some long-distance in between. 5 fucking years!!
I found out that she moved out of japan to be with her bf, but then now her bf decided to move to sydney to find a better job, and she's being left behind again. I asked what's their plan? hinting if they're gonna get married or what, she told me that they're gonna discuss it. At some point, I told her it's too bad that she has a bf! and looked at her with a strong sexy eye contact. She told me it's bad timing because she has a bf and we both live in different places.
Then I told her this looks like a scene from a movie. She asked me what kinda movie with a smile.
I told her, the movie where two people meet in paris, and then they meet again in 10 years.
I asked her if she believes in fate, she told me yea and give me an example of how she met this cleaner who helped her at the airport. LOL. girl that's not what I meant !

I told her I don't like fate because fate has to wait. She said nothing. Then I asked her what her plan is after she graduate, she told me she'll move to this country place, then I made a joke that "okay, let's meet up there in 5 years if u really believe in fate" she laughed and said ok. I took out my phone and asked her for her number. After I took her number, she asked for mine.
I jokingly said, "I'm not sure if I should give u my australian number or my other number back home"
she said, "both"
lol okay

At this point, she's starting to text her bf now to meet up with him. I felt a slight urge of panic, like he might showed up just around the corner or something.
So I asked her if she's gonna tell him about me. She said yea. I looked at her with a skeptical look, and asked her what's the point?
She said she doesn't like to lie, even though her bf won't be happy to hear about it. (yea who would be happy to hear about a guy picking up her gf but was only short of fucking her because logistic wasn't right.) Then I saw her texting her bf about where we were. Now, I'm a bit worried that he might be right behind me in a second.

Then I told her I have to leave soon. I stood up and looked at her. Waiting to say goodbye. Surprisingly, she got up and followed me. lol girl didn't u just text ur bf where u are. It took us a while to find the nearest train station. On our way, a guy handed me a card for a strip club, lol. I didn't know until I looked at it. I passed it on to her
Me: "Hey want it?"
she looked at it
Her: "haha na u can have it"
I paused for a bit and was about to blurt out my nice guy response that would sound like I don't like watching naked women. But restrained myself. I took the card
Me: "hmm yea. Might go later tonight ;)"
She laughed.

As we ride the escalator down the train station, I saw this ad about weddings at sydney harbour. I deep dived her about whether she would like that. She said she would rather have a small wedding and spend money on the honeymoon, and her favourate place to go on honeymoon.
We were interrupted as we were looking at which platforms our trains were. As luck would have it, we are on adjacent platforms, but our trains were leaving soon.
My train was on the right and her train on the left. They were both in the platform, and leaving any minute. Now this DOES seem like a scene in the movie.
She turned around and looked at me.
Her: "So this is it"
I opened my arms motioning her to give me a hug.
We hugged each other tightly.
I then hold her by the waist real close to me while she lean back slightly.
I whispered to her about that place we're gonna meet again in 5 years.
And then she went left and I went right.
As I was about to got on the train, I turned around, but she was already gone.
it's so hard to let someone go when u've made so much connection with them, and knowing that the chances of meeting them again is next to zero.
I think I care more about making an emotional connection with girls than simply just fking them, but I know I've gotta do both to get em.
As I got home, I was wondering whether I should even text her.
But at 9.30pm I decided to flip her a text
Me: "Not everyday u meet someone who enjoys painting and bodyboarding....Lovely to have met u =)"
30 mins later
Her: "yeah it was nice to meet you. Thanks for keeping me company =) I had nice afternoon =)"
oh two smileys. That's a first.

Things to improve
1. fundamentals - voice - got a little fast and high. Also a little bit quiet.
2. bantering/deep-diving (need to do a better job at relating)/ screening-qualifying (need to make it smoother)
3. cold reads
4. sexual frames - still need practice to inject it smoothly into the conversation.
5. push-pull
 

Smith

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Had a great day today!
Started off a bit rusty, and my knee still hurts when I walk up and down the stairs (I'm starting to worry about it).
The first girl blew me off with a pfft. lol.
because I can't walk really fast. I had to give up catching up to a few girls.
The next one I hesitated for a bit. It was this girl standing alone waiting for her friends. She kept looking around regularly.
I stood around pretending to be looking at something, and made sure she already saw me.
After having a bit of internal struggle since the last girl harshly rejected me, I remembered to not let the previous interaction affect me.
So I slowly walked up to her and opened her. She was warm and responsive, but I wasn't in the zone yet, so the conversation died down and I ejected myself.

Then I walked around for a bit, trying to find someone suitable to open, but most people are already with someone. There were a few girls who were walking too fast for me to catch up to.
Opened a few more girls.
Then I saw this asian girl walking past. I slowly caught up to her and did a small sprint. preopened and opened her. Touched her arm while delivering my opener. She was intrigued, but later said she has a bf, so can't go out with me. She was happy I went up to her. eh worth a try.

Then saw this chick walking past. She was warm and receptive as well. Turned out she was spanish and just got here yesterday. I build some rapport and asked her if she wanna explore the city together, she said yes. She was sexy, confident and well-traveled. She opened up immediately and we had lots of fun. She told me a lot about Spain, and she is really passionate about traveling. I suggested we took a ferry to this famous beach, but she had to meet up with her friend for lunch later. We walked to the botanic garden and found a spot with an amazing view, and it became our favourite spot of the city. It was a spot with rocks and sea. She started to sit down on a rock. I was standing a few feet away admiring the view. I turned around and she smiled. I walked towards her and was wondering whether I should sit next to her or not. Because there was only a small space next to her and trying to squeeze in there would look a bit try hard. But now I kinda regretted it. Because we were connecting a lot there, and I was too far to establish any physical touch.

We walked around a bit more. She was talking 70-80% of the time, and I just looked at her with an intense gaze and feeding back to her occasionally. I told her about my plan to travel in europe and she shared with me a lot of her exeprience. One thing I should've done a bit more is to shift the conversation more sexually. As we walked back to the train station and she has to leave to meet her friend. I asked if she has fb, she said yes and give me her phone so she can add me, and she told me to hit her up when I go to europe. We hugged and said goodbye.
I was very glad to meet her. It's funny how u can so easily miss an amazing girl on the street just because u were afraid to talk to her. I think my connection building skill is getting better.

Then I went into a mcdonald and bought lunch. (Spanish people actually have lunch at 2-3pm) As I finished eating, I saw this quite cute chick sitting behind me. I decided to open her, she was polite and said thank you, then continued to read whatever was on her phone. oh well it was worth a try.

Next, I opened this blonde, who turned out to be wearing a lot of makeup when I opened her and looked at her up close. I found the intense gaze actually works wonder and the girl looked entranced. She told me about how she drank too much last night, and that 4 dudes tried to hit on her and kissed her, and that she bought this guy in her hostel a drink because it was his birthday and he went on to hit on her and now she's avoiding him. lol. Glad I'm not doing night game. So much competition. This girl wasn't even the hottest I've opened. The Spanish girl was a lot sexier. I asked her if she has an australian number, she said no, so I told her to give me her fb. Since I don't have internet, she gave me her name and told me to message her. She invited me to come out tonight and drink with her friends. She gave me a hug as we said goodbye, and it surprised me cause I didn't expect it. Then I walked away thinking about this interaction. Was she trying to make herself sound attractive by telling me that a lot of guys hit on her? lol nice try. I checked her fb and turned out u can't even add her, so I didn't bother messaging her.

Then immediately saw this asian walking next to me. Opened her but she was nervous, and I asked too much questions. Forgot to do cold reads. So it didn't go anywhere.

I walked around a bit more trying to find some girls to open. Saw this girl walking pretty fast. She looked a bit serious. Trying to catch up to her, but she suddenly turned around and caught me looking at her so I didn't open her. As I walked back, saw this girl sitting on a bench by herself. Was gonna open her, but she looked stress checking her phone and a letter, and it seemed serious, so I felt it might not have been a good time to open her. Nonetheless, I should've open her anyway to find out if I was right. Bad habit? What do u guys do in these situations?

Then I saw an asian girl walking slow. I positioned myself so she'll be walking past me. I opened her, but turned out she wasn't that cute. I decided to stay in the conversation. It was fun chatting to her. she opened up immediately as well. Number closed her anyway.

Things I did right
- voice
- fundamentals
- deep diving
Things to improve
1. fundamentals - voice - louder and slower from the beginning.
2. bantering/deep-diving (need to do a better job at relating)/ screening-qualifying (need to make it smoother)
3. cold reads
4. sexual frames - still need practice to inject it smoothly into the conversation.
5. flirting - subtlety and implication, wit and chase frames
6. push-pull
 

Smith

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Something unexpected happened today. Saw this asian girl I met two days ago and went to the aquarium with. Was really surprised to see her since..well it's a city of millions of people. I hesitated for a few seconds deciding whether I should go up to her or not. Then decide what the hell.

We end up spending the day together again. My gut instinct initially told me she's not interested (she has a bf of 5 years) and that I should just ditch her and meet new women since I'm leaving tomorrow but....I'm gonna regret it if I don't try.
She invited herself to tag along again. I was gonna take the ferry and go to the zoo, but the ferries weren't operating until 2pm (due to some strike...) So we decided to go to this italian neighbourhood and find an italian restaurant.
At the italian restaurant, she opened up a lot more than last time, and was talking 70-80% of the time. I had an intense and focused eye contact the whole time.
One thing I still found difficult to do was to put in some sexual frame and chase framing.
After that, it took us a while to go back to the harbour to take the ferries.
On the boat, we were sitting at the front and looking out at the clear blue sky and sunset.
It was one of those moments I'll remember for a long time. I put my arm around her and hold her close to me.
As we ride the ferry back, she started to text her bf. I got up, walked to the side of the boat and enjoyed the view.
She took her camera, stood up and walked towards me.
We both stand close to each other and took in the view. I whispered to her ear: "I really like you..."
She turned to me: "Thanks...I like you too" but said it in more like a friendish tone.
I said nothing and looked out towards the view.
After we got off the boat, we stood in front of each other, not knowing what to say.
Whenever she made eye contact with me, she wouldn't hold it, but look down then away.
I was tempted to kiss her, but I missed the chance and she took a step back.
she told me that she didn't know being friendly could be misunderstood, and that she wasn't playing any game
lol girl u friendzoning me? Don't be bitter I told myself. Don't be bitter. It was my fault for not being clear about my intent, even though I thought I was pretty clear with all the touching, but not enough chase framing and sexual framing.
I didn't respond to the first part, and replied I don't play games too.
We sit down somewhere, and didn't say anything for a while.
We started to talk about her relationship. Heck. I still don't understand how people can stay faithful in a long term/long-distance relationship. I know I probably can't do it....with all the temptations around me.
I told her that she already knew what she wanted to do, but was just too scare to do it. It seemed like she's more dependent on her bf for financial security or something. He's like 10 years older than her. She told me where she wanted to go (not aus, so not with her bf), and that she really has difficulty finding a job given her english and qualification. I encouraged her to keep trying and that I believe it will eventually happen. She told me that sometimes it felt like her bf doesn't want her because he's really busy with his job. hmmm. I couldn't help but think that he's cheating on her lol but I didn't say anything.
She also told me she doesn't wanna throw away the last 5 years. Well life...
We hugged for a long time, and I whispered to her ear just empathezing about her situation, and telling her that she's an amazing person (too much pull I think)
I told her it must be a tough situation for her, and she agreed.
As we hold each other and I looked at her lips, I told her "I wanna kiss you".
She said no and that she has boundaries. I smiled and changed the subject.
As she walked away, she turned around and waved goodbye. I ran and caught up to her.
We both walked to the platform.
As the train arrived, We hugged again, and I looked at her lips seductively, moving closer to kiss her, she said no, and I looked side way and smiled.
Her: "take care"
I stood on the platform and watched her got on the train. She was standing inside the train and we made eye contact. I smiled and glanced away and looked back.
She waved goodbye. We maintained eye contact as the train started to roll away. I looked away and looked back quickly, and we locked eyes again.
Then the train disappeared into the dark.
This should be the last time I'll ever see her again.
After this, I decided to do just one pick up, since I haven't done any today, and it was getting cold and my knee hurt.
It wasn't the smoothest open lol
she got scared for some reason (which I think it's cause she was wearing earphones, and I didn't realize this until she turned towards me)
But I diffused it by calling it out "I know this is pretty random and u were looking pretty scared" in a humours tone and she started laughing and saying thank you.
oh well, that was fun.
 
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