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Things are going great with the previous mentioned girl. She has admitted that she wants to fuck me but is worried about her bf getting mad at her. Their relationship is an open relationship but she's only allowed to fuck girls since she is bi-sexual.
The only thing standing in my way is bad logistics. And what also sucks is that I may just become a "close friend" because she keeps on texting me and we're texting more than i'm "supposed" to be texting her.
We're supposed to use texting as a tool for meeting up.
She wants to talk about any and everything with me via text and I have not the slightest clue how to make this stop.
I tried to just stop replying but it also seemed asshole-like. She was texting me like: where'd you go?
Why'd you stop texting?
Sorry if I'm annoying you.
Ugh. I wish we could just smoothly meetup so I can get this over with. She's not free anytime soon but she said she wants to hang out with me and fuck me.
Just my luck that I have something like this dangling in front of me just out of reach. I'm anxious because I'm soooo close.
That's all for now.
Deuces.
The only thing standing in my way is bad logistics. And what also sucks is that I may just become a "close friend" because she keeps on texting me and we're texting more than i'm "supposed" to be texting her.
We're supposed to use texting as a tool for meeting up.
She wants to talk about any and everything with me via text and I have not the slightest clue how to make this stop.
I tried to just stop replying but it also seemed asshole-like. She was texting me like: where'd you go?
Why'd you stop texting?
Sorry if I'm annoying you.
Ugh. I wish we could just smoothly meetup so I can get this over with. She's not free anytime soon but she said she wants to hang out with me and fuck me.
Just my luck that I have something like this dangling in front of me just out of reach. I'm anxious because I'm soooo close.
That's all for now.
Deuces.
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Casanova.Jr said:Hey Wesley I'm in a similar situation but here was Franco's advice
Franco said:I'd say it's about time to put the ball in her court with a message like the following:
"Hey Chelsea, well it looks like your schedule is pretty busy. I'm not so great at this whole phone tag thing, so I'll leave the ball in your court! Shoot me a text if you want to get together"
In some cases, a girl won't text you again for up to two or three weeks until she realizes your text was for real (meaning that she understands that you ACTUALLY left the ball in her court because you have no intention of chasing her around over the phone), but when she finally does, you can see if she's down to go on a date.
That's my advice. Hope it helps!
- Franco
Hope it leads to a LR
Thanks Nova. Hope so.
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I want to read some of the LRs that some guys posted today so I'm going to get this out before I forget.
Today Dec 01, 2013.
My mom wanted me to get out of the house so I left and rode the bus downtown. Downtown has a public library that's actually open on Sundays and it also sometimes has events going on. (rarely) like the Filipino pride day that I went to a few posts back.
All of this is right by the river so it's a nice view. I spent my time in the library though, being on girlschase and posting the things I posted earlier.
After a while the library closed and they kicked us out and I headed onto the street over to this outdoor shopping center where the Filipino pride day was also held.
As I'm walking down the street I see a familiar body getting out of a car and locking it and generally just being in a rush.
It looks like the bartender at my old job at the pizza place here.
Man, she was hot. She was this fit blonde who was obviously way older than me but I didn't care because she was hot.
When I used to work there, she always smiled at me and told me I was such "a sweet kid"
Yup. Kid.
I caught up to her and then let out a loud PSSSTTTT
She didn't hear the first one.
So I did it again. PSSSSTTTT
she turned around.
Her: heyyy...
Me: heyy..remember me?
Her: Yea...you used to work at (pizza place) (smiling her beautiful smile she's always has)
Me: yea. Are you going to work now?
Her: yea I'm running a little late. (she starts walking and I walk with her)
She asking me how my thanksgiving holiday was and I'm returning g the questions and were just doing some quick small talk within this short walk. Then we stop in front of the (pizza place)
I ask her if she remembers what I said to her once.
She was like: yea. You asked me if I worked out and I said "you've been checking me out"
Me: yea! I have to admit. I had a littttle bit of a crush on you while I was working there.
Her: aww. Well, it was nice talking to you. I gotta go.
Me: hold on, are you single?
Her: eh...I have a few boyfriends why?
Me: ooh...I can be one of your boyfriends.
Herlaughs) how old are you?
Oh no! Not telling my age...i like older women and they're always trying to tell me I'm too young.
Me: how old are you?
Her: ...(it's obvious she's not going to tell me that information. When she had her birthday party at pizza place and I asked how old she was turning she gave me an obvious lie and said 23 or some shit...I'm guessing she's in her early 30s.)
Me: here just give me your number.
Her: sorry. (pouty face) (she starts to walk to the restaurant) nice seeing you again.
Me: yea...give me a hug.
We hug and then she goes to work.
Damn it.
I pretty much jumped into that and didn't bother getting to know her or anything. We worked together but know nothing about each other.
I could always stop by the restaurant, sit at a bar-stool and talk to her at the bar.
Damn, I know this lady is DTF.
After that I'm walking around the shopping center feeling kind of heart broken. I kind of expected to get her number and since she seemed like such an easy-to-pull-off interaction, I was disappointed that I screwed it up.
To make matters worse, the whole shopping center was filled with nothing but a bunch of couples being all romantic and shit. While we have Christmas music playing all around us.
Felt like one of those sad moments in a Christmas movie where the main character is moping around and then something magical happens.
(Which did!)
I left at THE most perfect time.
Venezuela girls
I leave the shopping center and I'm walking down the sidewalk of the city to head to the bus station.
As I'm walking, this motorcyclist drives by blasting some Good 'ol old school hip hop.
I turn my walk into a strut and start bobbing my head to it feeling the rhythm.
I notice parked on the side of the road a girl looking at me from inside a car.
I just look at her enthusiastically and keep Bobbing my head and walking.
She and two other girls get out of the car.
I turn my head back and look at them
GOD DANG! All I see is sexiness.
I stop walking and spin around back towards them.
Me: excuse me.
They didn't hear me the first time.
Me: excuse me.
They turn around.
I observe each of them.
They're all dressed up to the nines looking comfortable for the somewhat chilly weather.
I notice that two of them are really hot and then the other girl...eh...not for me.
I assume that they're going to the club that's back in the shopping center.
Me: hey, do you guys know what's going on down there tonight?
The girls: what?
Me: is there an event going on over there?
The hottest one steps up and answers me.
I don't quite remember what were talking about but I'm handling everything well. I find out all of their names.
The hottest one's name is Francesca
The shorter one is Anabella
And the tallest girl who is also really hot is Daniella.
I find out they're from Venezuela and then I ask them what they're doing in boring(city)
They start laughing and we take off from there with small talk. Francesca is asking me questions and I'm asking her questions while the other girls pretty much stay back. I give them attention every once in a while by directing some questions at them.
They laughed at a lot of things I was saying even when I wasn't even trying to be funny. I was just saying things for my own amusement.
They kept talking amongst themselves in Spanish as well.
Eventually I looked at my phone and said: I have a little bit of time....is it alright if I hang with you guys? You seem like fun.
They let me come along and we walked right back in the direction I came from to the shopping center.
They told me that they were going there to take pictures by the giant Christmas tree that gets put up every year.
Then they're speaking in Spanish once again.
I break in saying: I like how you guys speak Spanish...I can actually understand what you're saying.
They all gasp. Lol they're like: you can understand what we're saying?!
Me: yea, a little. People who speak Spanish here usually talk like ashgwhwbwdjnwhbdbdn but you guys speak clearly so I can understand a little bit.
They start laughing and speaking in Spanish again and changing into English and gosh it was just hectic but they're a lot of fun.
They're like: don't worry, we weren't saying anything about you.
For the most part whenever I asked questions and they weren't leaving me out of their Spanish conversations, I was talking to Francesca.
I was getting to know her most and I remember saying something like: I can tell you're the bad girl of the group.
They all started laughing and talked in Spanish and switching again.
I looked back at Anabella and Daniella who were walking behind me and Francesca and for a split second I thought I saw them holding hands.
Me: oh. I thought I just saw you two holding hands.
They all started laughing.
Me: are you three into doing lesbian things with each other?
They all start laughing at this too and speaking in Spanish.
Then I hold the door open for them and we all head into the shopping center then back out to the side that has the giant Christmas tree.
As we're walking through, it's apparent that guys are dropping their jaws from the sight of these girls. And I just feel awesome walking with them. People are all staring at us. (in a good way)
Once we get outside, they start excluding me from conversation again and talk in spanish. I just stay chill and don't act I have to be the center of attention. Then they walk over to the Christmas tree and then I take it from there by just adding fun to the moment.
We're having a good time taking pictures and then a man and his family come over to us.
The man has a professional photography camera and asks us if we want him to take a picture for us.
He tells me that if I give him my "sim card" in my phone he can put the pictures on my phone from the camera.
I take out the memory card and he gives us some awesome photos.
He gives me my memory card back and then we all are standing around talking while leaning on the railing looking out at the river.
Francesca is asking me more questions about myself and I'm keeping it brief and short. I tell her the reason I'm out today is to get out of the house despite it being so boring in this town.
She agrees and tells me that guys here are so boring and she says that I'm brave for talking to them.
She was impressed that I had the confidence to approach all three of them.
Then me and her are standing by each other looking out at the beautiful river and the lights reflecting on the surface. Such a perfect moment.
I broke touch barrier multiple times by putting my arm around her. She leaned in and hugged me.
Man, she was so compliant.
She's telling me that I need to send her the pictures we took over Facebook or send it to her phone.
I get her phone number and she also adds me on Facebook.
And I'm talking about meeting up again sometime because she's honestly one of the coolest girls I've met in a while.
(I love foreign girls!)
Then Daniella comes in asking me if I'm familiar with the show "breaking bad" and if it's a good show.
I tell her what I know about it but I don't watch it. I say that I'm a "walking dead" fan.
Then Francesca freaks out saying: YOU LOVE THE WALKING DEAD?! ME TOO!
Me: oh...wow..I guess we're soul mates then. Let's run away together.
I take her arm and pretend like I'm about to walk away with her.
She starts laughing and turns back around.
We're pretty much finished and they decide to head back to their car where I found them.
We're walking and talking and I find out that they go to the same college as me, just on different days. But now that I have Francesca's number, I'm going to hang out with her at school.
I joke again bringing up the "soul mates" thing and hold her hand. She starts laughing and says: "he's trying to hold my hand" in Spanish.
I understand what she says and then I say
Me: I know what you just said! You said that I'm trying to hold your hand.
They all start laughing again and one of the other girls says that Francesca has a boyfriend. (also earlier I found out that Daniella had a boyfriend as well. Of course they do. -_-)
I'm not fazed and say: for how long?
She's confused by this and says: what do you mean for how long?
And then eventually I'm like: it's whatever...we can be friends.
She agrees and says we should hang out sometime.
Before she gets in the car, I hug her. Then I do the French kissing the side of the cheeks thing.
They all start laughing saying: that's a French thing!
Francesca complied anyway and did it with me.
Then they get in the car and scream byeeee nice to meet you!
Then I walk away stunned that I just did that.
Get home. Add her on Facebook. Make the picture I took with her my profile picture and then all these people start liking my photo like they're amazed I'm with a girl that beautiful.
Then my female friend who I had a fling with over the summer comments saying: she's pretty! Get it Tevin!
Basically a bunch of preselection because all these girls that I've been trying to talk to like the photo
And some guy friends are like: ayeeee that's my boyyyy.
Haha that's all for now.
Wes.
(pictures will come with FR. Then I will add them here to the journal)
Today Dec 01, 2013.
My mom wanted me to get out of the house so I left and rode the bus downtown. Downtown has a public library that's actually open on Sundays and it also sometimes has events going on. (rarely) like the Filipino pride day that I went to a few posts back.
All of this is right by the river so it's a nice view. I spent my time in the library though, being on girlschase and posting the things I posted earlier.
After a while the library closed and they kicked us out and I headed onto the street over to this outdoor shopping center where the Filipino pride day was also held.
As I'm walking down the street I see a familiar body getting out of a car and locking it and generally just being in a rush.
It looks like the bartender at my old job at the pizza place here.
Man, she was hot. She was this fit blonde who was obviously way older than me but I didn't care because she was hot.
When I used to work there, she always smiled at me and told me I was such "a sweet kid"
Yup. Kid.
I caught up to her and then let out a loud PSSSTTTT
She didn't hear the first one.
So I did it again. PSSSSTTTT
she turned around.
Her: heyyy...
Me: heyy..remember me?
Her: Yea...you used to work at (pizza place) (smiling her beautiful smile she's always has)
Me: yea. Are you going to work now?
Her: yea I'm running a little late. (she starts walking and I walk with her)
She asking me how my thanksgiving holiday was and I'm returning g the questions and were just doing some quick small talk within this short walk. Then we stop in front of the (pizza place)
I ask her if she remembers what I said to her once.
She was like: yea. You asked me if I worked out and I said "you've been checking me out
" Me: yea! I have to admit. I had a littttle bit of a crush on you while I was working there.
Her: aww. Well, it was nice talking to you. I gotta go.
Me: hold on, are you single?
Her: eh...I have a few boyfriends why?
Me: ooh...I can be one of your boyfriends.
Her
laughs) how old are you? Oh no! Not telling my age...i like older women and they're always trying to tell me I'm too young.
Me: how old are you?
Her: ...(it's obvious she's not going to tell me that information. When she had her birthday party at pizza place and I asked how old she was turning she gave me an obvious lie and said 23 or some shit...I'm guessing she's in her early 30s.)
Me: here just give me your number.
Her: sorry. (pouty face) (she starts to walk to the restaurant) nice seeing you again.
Me: yea...give me a hug.
We hug and then she goes to work.
Damn it.
I pretty much jumped into that and didn't bother getting to know her or anything. We worked together but know nothing about each other.
I could always stop by the restaurant, sit at a bar-stool and talk to her at the bar.
Damn, I know this lady is DTF.
After that I'm walking around the shopping center feeling kind of heart broken. I kind of expected to get her number and since she seemed like such an easy-to-pull-off interaction, I was disappointed that I screwed it up.
To make matters worse, the whole shopping center was filled with nothing but a bunch of couples being all romantic and shit. While we have Christmas music playing all around us.
Felt like one of those sad moments in a Christmas movie where the main character is moping around and then something magical happens.
(Which did!)
I left at THE most perfect time.
Venezuela girls
I leave the shopping center and I'm walking down the sidewalk of the city to head to the bus station.
As I'm walking, this motorcyclist drives by blasting some Good 'ol old school hip hop.
I turn my walk into a strut and start bobbing my head to it feeling the rhythm.
I notice parked on the side of the road a girl looking at me from inside a car.
I just look at her enthusiastically and keep Bobbing my head and walking.
She and two other girls get out of the car.
I turn my head back and look at them
GOD DANG! All I see is sexiness.
I stop walking and spin around back towards them.
Me: excuse me.
They didn't hear me the first time.
Me: excuse me.
They turn around.
I observe each of them.
They're all dressed up to the nines looking comfortable for the somewhat chilly weather.
I notice that two of them are really hot and then the other girl...eh...not for me.
I assume that they're going to the club that's back in the shopping center.
Me: hey, do you guys know what's going on down there tonight?
The girls: what?
Me: is there an event going on over there?
The hottest one steps up and answers me.
I don't quite remember what were talking about but I'm handling everything well. I find out all of their names.
The hottest one's name is Francesca
The shorter one is Anabella
And the tallest girl who is also really hot is Daniella.
I find out they're from Venezuela and then I ask them what they're doing in boring(city)
They start laughing and we take off from there with small talk. Francesca is asking me questions and I'm asking her questions while the other girls pretty much stay back. I give them attention every once in a while by directing some questions at them.
They laughed at a lot of things I was saying even when I wasn't even trying to be funny. I was just saying things for my own amusement.
They kept talking amongst themselves in Spanish as well.
Eventually I looked at my phone and said: I have a little bit of time....is it alright if I hang with you guys? You seem like fun.
They let me come along and we walked right back in the direction I came from to the shopping center.
They told me that they were going there to take pictures by the giant Christmas tree that gets put up every year.
Then they're speaking in Spanish once again.
I break in saying: I like how you guys speak Spanish...I can actually understand what you're saying.
They all gasp. Lol they're like: you can understand what we're saying?!
Me: yea, a little. People who speak Spanish here usually talk like ashgwhwbwdjnwhbdbdn but you guys speak clearly so I can understand a little bit.
They start laughing and speaking in Spanish again and changing into English and gosh it was just hectic but they're a lot of fun.
They're like: don't worry, we weren't saying anything about you.
For the most part whenever I asked questions and they weren't leaving me out of their Spanish conversations, I was talking to Francesca.
I was getting to know her most and I remember saying something like: I can tell you're the bad girl of the group.
They all started laughing and talked in Spanish and switching again.
I looked back at Anabella and Daniella who were walking behind me and Francesca and for a split second I thought I saw them holding hands.
Me: oh. I thought I just saw you two holding hands.
They all started laughing.
Me: are you three into doing lesbian things with each other?
They all start laughing at this too and speaking in Spanish.
Then I hold the door open for them and we all head into the shopping center then back out to the side that has the giant Christmas tree.
As we're walking through, it's apparent that guys are dropping their jaws from the sight of these girls. And I just feel awesome walking with them. People are all staring at us. (in a good way)
Once we get outside, they start excluding me from conversation again and talk in spanish. I just stay chill and don't act I have to be the center of attention. Then they walk over to the Christmas tree and then I take it from there by just adding fun to the moment.
We're having a good time taking pictures and then a man and his family come over to us.
The man has a professional photography camera and asks us if we want him to take a picture for us.
He tells me that if I give him my "sim card" in my phone he can put the pictures on my phone from the camera.
I take out the memory card and he gives us some awesome photos.
He gives me my memory card back and then we all are standing around talking while leaning on the railing looking out at the river.
Francesca is asking me more questions about myself and I'm keeping it brief and short. I tell her the reason I'm out today is to get out of the house despite it being so boring in this town.
She agrees and tells me that guys here are so boring and she says that I'm brave for talking to them.
She was impressed that I had the confidence to approach all three of them.
Then me and her are standing by each other looking out at the beautiful river and the lights reflecting on the surface. Such a perfect moment.
I broke touch barrier multiple times by putting my arm around her. She leaned in and hugged me.
Man, she was so compliant.
She's telling me that I need to send her the pictures we took over Facebook or send it to her phone.
I get her phone number and she also adds me on Facebook.
And I'm talking about meeting up again sometime because she's honestly one of the coolest girls I've met in a while.
(I love foreign girls!
)Then Daniella comes in asking me if I'm familiar with the show "breaking bad" and if it's a good show.
I tell her what I know about it but I don't watch it. I say that I'm a "walking dead" fan.
Then Francesca freaks out saying: YOU LOVE THE WALKING DEAD?! ME TOO!
Me: oh...wow..I guess we're soul mates then. Let's run away together.
I take her arm and pretend like I'm about to walk away with her.
She starts laughing and turns back around.
We're pretty much finished and they decide to head back to their car where I found them.
We're walking and talking and I find out that they go to the same college as me, just on different days. But now that I have Francesca's number, I'm going to hang out with her at school.
I joke again bringing up the "soul mates" thing and hold her hand. She starts laughing and says: "he's trying to hold my hand" in Spanish.
I understand what she says and then I say
Me: I know what you just said! You said that I'm trying to hold your hand.
They all start laughing again and one of the other girls says that Francesca has a boyfriend. (also earlier I found out that Daniella had a boyfriend as well. Of course they do. -_-)
I'm not fazed and say: for how long?
She's confused by this and says: what do you mean for how long?
And then eventually I'm like: it's whatever...we can be friends.
She agrees and says we should hang out sometime.
Before she gets in the car, I hug her. Then I do the French kissing the side of the cheeks thing.
They all start laughing saying: that's a French thing!
Francesca complied anyway and did it with me.
Then they get in the car and scream byeeee nice to meet you!
Then I walk away stunned that I just did that.
Get home. Add her on Facebook. Make the picture I took with her my profile picture and then all these people start liking my photo like they're amazed I'm with a girl that beautiful.
Then my female friend who I had a fling with over the summer comments saying: she's pretty! Get it Tevin!
Basically a bunch of preselection because all these girls that I've been trying to talk to like the photo
And some guy friends are like: ayeeee that's my boyyyy.
Haha that's all for now.
Wes.
(pictures will come with FR. Then I will add them here to the journal)
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I'm so happy right now. I finally was able to do a kiss close.
Well it was a number close and kiss close but I can't believe I finally did it.
Here's how it went:
There's this girl who is a friend of the people in my social circle at school. (so technically it wasn't a cold approach)
I had officially met her around the beginning of the semester when she was sitting at a lunch table with my friends.
I Introduced myself to her in order to break any weird vibes between the whole group. A lot of people around here will come and talk to the people they know and pretend like the new faces are completely invisible which looks really rude. I guess there's a lot of socially ungraceful people in this town and we're all just reflecting each other. Nobody really tries to step up and do something different.
So I introduce myself and right off the bat, I was getting compliance from her in front of my friends. I asked for her to let me see her hand and then I locked hands with her. She's was smiling and being giggly and blushing.
That was my first time meeting her. After that, I rarely saw her at the groups usual hangout spot in the cafeteria. I'd see her occasionally right when she'd be leaving. Every time she was happy to see me and I was pretty sure that she was into me.
So finally yesterday, I was walking with my friend back from the parking lot and then I see her walking toward me going towards the parking lot.
I stop her and we small talk and there's some good energy going. She just always seems to be in a great mood when I talk to her.
It's like the moment Chase talks about how you have some girls that you just "click" with. Well me and her just naturally click. We have this natural sexual tension going on and it just feels like we should be together.
I somehow bring up the fact that one of our mutual friends said that she has red hair when her hair is obviously not red.
She says: in the light it's red. It's technically strawberry blonde.
I take her hand and walk into the sunlight. She complies and walks with me hand in hand.
Then I take a strand of her beautiful long curly hair and hold it to the sunlight and look at it.
Me: oh yea. I see it now...you smell really good by the way.
She smelled like strawberries or some kinda fruit...pretty much adding to the attraction I had for her.
Then we're talking a bit and I'm trying to see if she remembers my name as she's putting my number in her phone. I told her that if she can remember then I'll give her a kiss on the cheek. She didn't even object to that.
So she's guessing and getting every guess wrong. And then I finally tell her and then say she can get a kiss anyway.
I pull her in and kiss her cheek and she let's me. Then I move to her lips and then next thing we know, we're making out.
I then realize we're in a public place so I end it early.
We stop kissing and she's looking at me and then we part ways smiling.
Then she's like: text me okay?
I turn back to my friend who is looking at me amazed. He's like: YOU FINALLY DID IT!
Two other guys were walking by when it happened and they were looking like: wtf just happened?
I was feeling so good after that. I was practically glowing.
My friend helped me out in a way too. He said that he could feel the sexual tension between me and her, so he stepped out of the way and let me do my thing.
He said that it looked like the tension was increasing and increasing the more we talked and the look in her eyes showed that we were in our own bubble blocking everyone else out.
So yup. I finally did it. I have to say, she was a good kisser...she had me missing her lips even though I was the one who ended it first.
I'm definitely going to go for that lay.
All this work is finally starting to pay off.
That's all for now.
Peace.
Well it was a number close and kiss close but I can't believe I finally did it.
Here's how it went:
There's this girl who is a friend of the people in my social circle at school. (so technically it wasn't a cold approach)
I had officially met her around the beginning of the semester when she was sitting at a lunch table with my friends.
I Introduced myself to her in order to break any weird vibes between the whole group. A lot of people around here will come and talk to the people they know and pretend like the new faces are completely invisible which looks really rude. I guess there's a lot of socially ungraceful people in this town and we're all just reflecting each other. Nobody really tries to step up and do something different.
So I introduce myself and right off the bat, I was getting compliance from her in front of my friends. I asked for her to let me see her hand and then I locked hands with her. She's was smiling and being giggly and blushing.
That was my first time meeting her. After that, I rarely saw her at the groups usual hangout spot in the cafeteria. I'd see her occasionally right when she'd be leaving. Every time she was happy to see me and I was pretty sure that she was into me.
So finally yesterday, I was walking with my friend back from the parking lot and then I see her walking toward me going towards the parking lot.
I stop her and we small talk and there's some good energy going. She just always seems to be in a great mood when I talk to her.
It's like the moment Chase talks about how you have some girls that you just "click" with. Well me and her just naturally click. We have this natural sexual tension going on and it just feels like we should be together.
I somehow bring up the fact that one of our mutual friends said that she has red hair when her hair is obviously not red.
She says: in the light it's red. It's technically strawberry blonde.
I take her hand and walk into the sunlight. She complies and walks with me hand in hand.
Then I take a strand of her beautiful long curly hair and hold it to the sunlight and look at it.
Me: oh yea. I see it now...you smell really good by the way.
She smelled like strawberries or some kinda fruit...pretty much adding to the attraction I had for her.
Then we're talking a bit and I'm trying to see if she remembers my name as she's putting my number in her phone. I told her that if she can remember then I'll give her a kiss on the cheek. She didn't even object to that.
So she's guessing and getting every guess wrong. And then I finally tell her and then say she can get a kiss anyway.
I pull her in and kiss her cheek and she let's me. Then I move to her lips and then next thing we know, we're making out.
I then realize we're in a public place so I end it early.
We stop kissing and she's looking at me and then we part ways smiling.
Then she's like: text me okay?
I turn back to my friend who is looking at me amazed. He's like: YOU FINALLY DID IT!
Two other guys were walking by when it happened and they were looking like: wtf just happened?
I was feeling so good after that. I was practically glowing.
My friend helped me out in a way too. He said that he could feel the sexual tension between me and her, so he stepped out of the way and let me do my thing.
He said that it looked like the tension was increasing and increasing the more we talked and the look in her eyes showed that we were in our own bubble blocking everyone else out.
So yup. I finally did it. I have to say, she was a good kisser...she had me missing her lips even though I was the one who ended it first.
I'm definitely going to go for that lay.
All this work is finally starting to pay off.
That's all for now.
Peace.
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Hey Wes,
I just wanted to write this to thank you for writing in my journal and your very helpful feedback in my field report. I'm sorry i couldn't get back to you recently, i was so busy. But you obviously don't need my support- you're doing amazing so far; your girl is very pretty!
Good luck in all your endeavours with her and beyond I will be following your journal too
Ryan
I just wanted to write this to thank you for writing in my journal and your very helpful feedback in my field report. I'm sorry i couldn't get back to you recently, i was so busy. But you obviously don't need my support- you're doing amazing so far; your girl is very pretty!
Good luck in all your endeavours with her and beyond
I will be following your journal tooRyan
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No problem Ryan. And Thankyou.Ryan said:Hey Wes,
I just wanted to write this to thank you for writing in my journal and your very helpful feedback in my field report. I'm sorry i couldn't get back to you recently, i was so busy. But you obviously don't need my support- you're doing amazing so far; your girl is very pretty!
Good luck in all your endeavours with her and beyond
Ryan
So far she hasnt replied to any texts so we'll see.
The same goes for the girl I made out with. No replies.
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I just wanted to share something really quick. It isn't anything to do with an interaction with a girl but rather an idea or a fantasy of mine for seducing that I thought I'd like to share.
First off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sDGZpq ... e=g-high-u
If anybody actually reads this, just bring up that link in a tab and read along.
Okay...is the music starting?
It's a beat and then some repition of some sounds...and maybe you like it maybe you don't but basically...a feeling you have is curiosity for what's about to happen next.
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I have this fantasy where I primarily connect with a girl talking about music and music only. First off, I'm deep diving about the kind of music she likes, why she likes it, make an assumption of her personality based off of what she likes, then ask if she's open minded to other kinds of music.
Reward her if she's open minded.
Ask her what kind of music turns her on. What kind of music has she had sex to before/ wishes to have sex to.
Get very deep and vivid with my words explaining emotions and feelings when talking about music I listen to and turning her on.
Have her explain vividly the fantasy she has with certain kind of music and the sex going on.
Turn her on kind of how Drexel talked about in his latest article.
Use music as an excuse to bring her home...to "show" her what I listen to.
The point is not just about the sex but to also bring her into an experience or a "world". My own world.
This song comes on. She may or may not like it. I'm going to try and screen for girls who like stuff like this.
We're sitting on a couch.
She's bobbing her head.
She might even say a few things but I tell her: "shhh...just listen"
Then I get up....I take her hand and lead her to stand in the middle of the room as the music is playing and building up to the dancing sounds.
Then I start dancing a little bit while holding her hands and encourage her to start dancing as well.
We're both dancing.
I start to hold her close and we turn our dancing into a slow dance as the song gets to the parts where there is a male voice singing. she can feel free to grind up and down on me if she wants. Not like twerk grinding but like as if she's sliding down a wall with her hands in the air above her head, her face showing the expression of "mmm" as if she's already having an orgasm. My body is the wall and I have her waist in my hands as she's gyrating on me.
Anytime I talk, I'm talking in a sexy deep voice and looking intensely in her eyes.
We make out.
As we're making out, I lead her back over to the couch and lay her down.
"Show/sell me your body" is a lyric that you can kind of hear if you pay close attention.
I start escalating, touching her, she's touching me...
Clothes are coming off. I'm kissing her everywhere.
My fingers are inside her...my tongue is inside her at one point. I give her head.
I close the deal and we have sex as the song is ending and another song begins that is just as sexy.
We continue having sex to a whole playlist I have set up to take her on this journey.
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I know the song is about 6 minutes, but when I first listened to it, this and a few other "Trippy" things were going on in my head. Everyone sees something different when listening to music but I just wanted to share what I saw and explain a dream I have to take girls on journeys into these worlds I go into and experience them with me.
It might sound corny or lame...whatever. I'm just sharing what saw and what I want to do.
Maybe inspire some of you.
That's all.
Wes.
First off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sDGZpq ... e=g-high-u
If anybody actually reads this, just bring up that link in a tab and read along.
Okay...is the music starting?
It's a beat and then some repition of some sounds...and maybe you like it maybe you don't but basically...a feeling you have is curiosity for what's about to happen next.
-------
I have this fantasy where I primarily connect with a girl talking about music and music only. First off, I'm deep diving about the kind of music she likes, why she likes it, make an assumption of her personality based off of what she likes, then ask if she's open minded to other kinds of music.
Reward her if she's open minded.
Ask her what kind of music turns her on. What kind of music has she had sex to before/ wishes to have sex to.
Get very deep and vivid with my words explaining emotions and feelings when talking about music I listen to and turning her on.
Have her explain vividly the fantasy she has with certain kind of music and the sex going on.
Turn her on kind of how Drexel talked about in his latest article.
Use music as an excuse to bring her home...to "show" her what I listen to.
The point is not just about the sex but to also bring her into an experience or a "world". My own world.
This song comes on. She may or may not like it. I'm going to try and screen for girls who like stuff like this.
We're sitting on a couch.
She's bobbing her head.
She might even say a few things but I tell her: "shhh...just listen"
Then I get up....I take her hand and lead her to stand in the middle of the room as the music is playing and building up to the dancing sounds.
Then I start dancing a little bit while holding her hands and encourage her to start dancing as well.
We're both dancing.
I start to hold her close and we turn our dancing into a slow dance as the song gets to the parts where there is a male voice singing. she can feel free to grind up and down on me if she wants. Not like twerk grinding but like as if she's sliding down a wall with her hands in the air above her head, her face showing the expression of "mmm" as if she's already having an orgasm. My body is the wall and I have her waist in my hands as she's gyrating on me.
Anytime I talk, I'm talking in a sexy deep voice and looking intensely in her eyes.
We make out.
As we're making out, I lead her back over to the couch and lay her down.
"Show/sell me your body" is a lyric that you can kind of hear if you pay close attention.
I start escalating, touching her, she's touching me...
Clothes are coming off. I'm kissing her everywhere.
My fingers are inside her...my tongue is inside her at one point. I give her head.
I close the deal and we have sex as the song is ending and another song begins that is just as sexy.
We continue having sex to a whole playlist I have set up to take her on this journey.
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I know the song is about 6 minutes, but when I first listened to it, this and a few other "Trippy" things were going on in my head. Everyone sees something different when listening to music but I just wanted to share what I saw and explain a dream I have to take girls on journeys into these worlds I go into and experience them with me.
It might sound corny or lame...whatever. I'm just sharing what saw and what I want to do.
Maybe inspire some of you.
That's all.
Wes.
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Here's what happened yesterday.
But first a little backstory on this girl.
I had met this girl at the beginning of the semester just like how I had met many girls I'm talking to now. That was when I was on fire, approaching girls left and right and getting tons of numbers.
Many of them, I never texted, forgot who they were, and deleted their numbers.
One of which was CostaRicangirl
I met her when she was going to class. I stopped her with a simple: stop. You're cute. What's your name?
And from my point of view it didn't "feel" like the interaction went all that well. She was smiling but I didn't feel like she wanted me. This girl was so beautiful that I pretty much assumed that she gets approached very often and that she was..."high maintenance"
I assumed wrong.
Weeks pass...and every day or so I see her but I never said anything to her. Partly because I wasn't sure if I had met her already. I've approached other girls who look very similar to her. I just didn't even bother.
Then last week came around. The same week I made out with that other girl. And just hours before that make out, I finally approached CostaRicangirl sitting at a table in the cafeteria.
She told me how I already approached her at the beginning of the semester and that I never texted her.
I apologized, shared some Byronic qualities about myself by telling a story, and basically made myself appear less like a jerk.
Things were back to being good again. And this time it actually "felt" like she wanted me. I could sense a desire that I could actually work with.
(if I get a sense that a girl is not interested....I just don't want to waste my time.)
We talked a little and I also got her to move with me and we walked around campus. Then we ended off going to our separate classes. She told me that when she gets a new phone, she'll give me her number again.
A day after I run into her again, and I get her to walk with me. We go on a mini date...around the school. At least felt that way. I brought her to this garden area and I was getting to know her really well, then we moved to the school's art gallery. I was about to lead her in but then I noticed the time and we had to go to class so I said, we'll come back another time.
She gave me her number and walked away saying: you better text me this time!
I did a day later. No reply.
Ran into her at school yesterday.
She was walking way ahead of me on the sidewalk. I recognized her from behind. Instead of calling her name, I decided to just call her phone and tell her to turn around. I also didn't want to run after her. I was being slow and chill and low energy.
Her phone went straight to voice mail, so then I just called out her name.
She turned around and smiled. HEYYYYY.
She stood in place as I was walking closer and closer towards her.
She said: "walk faster...come on"
Me: "don't tell me what to do...are you in a rush?"
She told me about how she's looking for her professor's office to see about her final grade. Here's where things messed up.
She was telling me many things but for some reason I wasn't retaining any information she was telling me. I wasn't really focusing on the conversation and was pretty much daydreaming and coming back to reality in the middle of her talking.
I often (no...ALL THE TIME) do this when someone is telling me something I don't really care about hearing.
Usually when I come back to reality, I pay attention to a few key words to help me keep the conversation going and ask a question to get them talking again.
Most of the time, though, I come back to reality and I have no idea what we're even talking about and I freak out, panic and just don't say anything. So there's just an awkward silence. I know from their point of view I look like I'm not listening so they get frustrated with me.
I somehow got things back on track as we walked into the office. We had to wait in line to see her professor and as we waited we looked at the artwork on the walls.
She was staring at a piece that had flowers on it saying: I really like this one.
This is where I messed up a potentially great moment.
I stood behind her looking at the art. I leaned my face to her ear and whispered something. It wasn't important. I was teasing her about her preference. The point is, I was testing to see if she was fine with me in her personal space.
She didn't flinch or move back at all. She looked at me in my eyes, turning her face towards me.
And we stood there speaking in bedroom voices at each other.
Really great moment. AND I didn't kiss her.
Soon the moment faded...and I freaked out noticing that I could've escalated there.
I scrambled to try to see if things were still good, trying to test if I could still do something. By this time, she as being all weird about me being close to her when A SECOND ago...she didn't even care.
afterward I brought her to this secluded area surrounded by trees so that I could try and get another chance.
We were talking about music and I had the idea to try my "fantasy" from the previous post..only a little adjusted for this situation to get the first kiss.
First she showed me the kind of music she liked. Told me she likes electronic music so we have that in common.
She started playing this electronic Spanish music that you'd probably hear at a club.
She was singing along in Spanish and just having the time of her life.
Then I took her phone and searched for a chiller kind of song to set an atmosphere.
I played it and at first she was like: okay?
Then the song really started getting into it and she started bobbing her head.
She asked me a question but I ignored it and started mouthing the words. Then while mouthing I moved in closer to her face to test it again. She seems fine and smiled a bit. But she was still sitting too far from me.
Also her purse was in between both of us, so I moved it and told her to stop being weird and scoot closer to me.
She refused.
-_-
I didn't try to force her.
Just when I was going to try again after some light conversation (and me fading out of reality), she said she had to go.
We both got up and then walked in the same direction until we parted ways.
We hugged and then as a last minute desperate attempt I pointed to my cheek and made a noise meaning: kiss me here.
She refused and walked away.
Dammit. -_-
This whole situation showed me that a) I'm still not the best at recognizing escalation windows and ACTING on them as soon as they rise up. And b) I suck at actively listening.
I've been trying to get advice on the listening thing for the longest time but I can't find anything that helps.
Part of me wishes that people would talk about things more interesting to me, and then the other part wishes that I wasn't so socially awkward that I could handle any conversation topic being thrown my way.
Really the main problem is, people also bring up topics that are "dead end" topics. it's not entirely my fault.
How in the world do you politely change the topic of conversation without seeming rude?
I want to say: I don't want to talk about your day shopping at the mall. (that was something she talked about. It led her to showing me pictures in her phone of a dress she tried on. How did we even get there?! I'd rather just see you in the dress in person. Then have that dress laying on the floor next to a bed as I'm...)
I want to say: this topic will take us nowhere.
I want to say: I don't care about your______
But I'll just look heartless.
Help?
But first a little backstory on this girl.
I had met this girl at the beginning of the semester just like how I had met many girls I'm talking to now. That was when I was on fire, approaching girls left and right and getting tons of numbers.
Many of them, I never texted, forgot who they were, and deleted their numbers.
One of which was CostaRicangirl
I met her when she was going to class. I stopped her with a simple: stop. You're cute. What's your name?
And from my point of view it didn't "feel" like the interaction went all that well. She was smiling but I didn't feel like she wanted me. This girl was so beautiful that I pretty much assumed that she gets approached very often and that she was..."high maintenance"
I assumed wrong.
Weeks pass...and every day or so I see her but I never said anything to her. Partly because I wasn't sure if I had met her already. I've approached other girls who look very similar to her. I just didn't even bother.
Then last week came around. The same week I made out with that other girl. And just hours before that make out, I finally approached CostaRicangirl sitting at a table in the cafeteria.
She told me how I already approached her at the beginning of the semester and that I never texted her.
I apologized, shared some Byronic qualities about myself by telling a story, and basically made myself appear less like a jerk.
Things were back to being good again. And this time it actually "felt" like she wanted me. I could sense a desire that I could actually work with.
(if I get a sense that a girl is not interested....I just don't want to waste my time.)
We talked a little and I also got her to move with me and we walked around campus. Then we ended off going to our separate classes. She told me that when she gets a new phone, she'll give me her number again.
A day after I run into her again, and I get her to walk with me. We go on a mini date...around the school. At least felt that way. I brought her to this garden area and I was getting to know her really well, then we moved to the school's art gallery. I was about to lead her in but then I noticed the time and we had to go to class so I said, we'll come back another time.
She gave me her number and walked away saying: you better text me this time!
I did a day later. No reply.
Ran into her at school yesterday.
She was walking way ahead of me on the sidewalk. I recognized her from behind. Instead of calling her name, I decided to just call her phone and tell her to turn around. I also didn't want to run after her. I was being slow and chill and low energy.
Her phone went straight to voice mail, so then I just called out her name.
She turned around and smiled. HEYYYYY.
She stood in place as I was walking closer and closer towards her.
She said: "walk faster...come on"
Me: "don't tell me what to do
...are you in a rush?" She told me about how she's looking for her professor's office to see about her final grade. Here's where things messed up.
She was telling me many things but for some reason I wasn't retaining any information she was telling me. I wasn't really focusing on the conversation and was pretty much daydreaming and coming back to reality in the middle of her talking.
I often (no...ALL THE TIME) do this when someone is telling me something I don't really care about hearing.
Usually when I come back to reality, I pay attention to a few key words to help me keep the conversation going and ask a question to get them talking again.
Most of the time, though, I come back to reality and I have no idea what we're even talking about and I freak out, panic and just don't say anything. So there's just an awkward silence. I know from their point of view I look like I'm not listening so they get frustrated with me.
I somehow got things back on track as we walked into the office. We had to wait in line to see her professor and as we waited we looked at the artwork on the walls.
She was staring at a piece that had flowers on it saying: I really like this one.
This is where I messed up a potentially great moment.
I stood behind her looking at the art. I leaned my face to her ear and whispered something. It wasn't important. I was teasing her about her preference. The point is, I was testing to see if she was fine with me in her personal space.
She didn't flinch or move back at all. She looked at me in my eyes, turning her face towards me.
And we stood there speaking in bedroom voices at each other.
Really great moment. AND I didn't kiss her.
Soon the moment faded...and I freaked out noticing that I could've escalated there.
I scrambled to try to see if things were still good, trying to test if I could still do something. By this time, she as being all weird about me being close to her when A SECOND ago...she didn't even care.
afterward I brought her to this secluded area surrounded by trees so that I could try and get another chance.
We were talking about music and I had the idea to try my "fantasy" from the previous post..only a little adjusted for this situation to get the first kiss.
First she showed me the kind of music she liked. Told me she likes electronic music so we have that in common.
She started playing this electronic Spanish music that you'd probably hear at a club.
She was singing along in Spanish and just having the time of her life.
Then I took her phone and searched for a chiller kind of song to set an atmosphere.
I played it and at first she was like: okay?
Then the song really started getting into it and she started bobbing her head.
She asked me a question but I ignored it and started mouthing the words. Then while mouthing I moved in closer to her face to test it again. She seems fine and smiled a bit. But she was still sitting too far from me.
Also her purse was in between both of us, so I moved it and told her to stop being weird and scoot closer to me.
She refused.
-_-
I didn't try to force her.
Just when I was going to try again after some light conversation (and me fading out of reality), she said she had to go.
We both got up and then walked in the same direction until we parted ways.
We hugged and then as a last minute desperate attempt I pointed to my cheek and made a noise meaning: kiss me here.
She refused and walked away.
Dammit. -_-
This whole situation showed me that a) I'm still not the best at recognizing escalation windows and ACTING on them as soon as they rise up. And b) I suck at actively listening.
I've been trying to get advice on the listening thing for the longest time but I can't find anything that helps.
Part of me wishes that people would talk about things more interesting to me, and then the other part wishes that I wasn't so socially awkward that I could handle any conversation topic being thrown my way.
Really the main problem is, people also bring up topics that are "dead end" topics. it's not entirely my fault.
How in the world do you politely change the topic of conversation without seeming rude?
I want to say: I don't want to talk about your day shopping at the mall. (that was something she talked about. It led her to showing me pictures in her phone of a dress she tried on. How did we even get there?! I'd rather just see you in the dress in person. Then have that dress laying on the floor next to a bed as I'm...)
I want to say: this topic will take us nowhere.
I want to say: I don't care about your______
But I'll just look heartless.
Help?
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I would've posted yesterday but I was exhausted.
I'll try to keep this short. I don't feel very well and I'm still exhausted.
Went to the outdoor shopping center yesterday. The one that has all the stuck up rich folks.
I usually hate gaming there because girls wo t even stop when you try and get their attention. They're also rude.
This time it went really well. Maybe my fundamentals are getting better.
I was inside of the bookstore just killing time until the city bus arrived.
Practiced looking with my peripherals. To the side of me I feel this familiar energy and look from the corner of my eye.
Standing down the aisle is a short brunette in a long form fitting black dress. She looks like she has dreads going down to her back and she's absolutely adorable. Just one look at her and you can tell she's an artsy creative type.
Being a creative artsy person myself, I know just how open minded people like that are..and I was spot on...but we'll get to that in a second.
I needed to preopen. She kept moving from place to place checking out books. Everytime I decided to go stand next to her to pretend to look at a book, she'd move or people would stand over near us.
I don't mind doing pickup in front of people...but for some reason I didn't want anybody hearing my opener...so I waited til she was alone.
After some long waiting, she was finally standing by herself at a bookshelf, looking at at the books.
I walked up to her and then planted myself beside her while avoiding eye contact. I wanted her to see me first.
Turns out, she thought I was trying to walk by so then she moved aside rapidly as if she was panicking and said: oh sorry!
I just looked calmly at her.
Me: why are you saying sorry?
Her: I thought you were about to walk infront of me.
Me: oh no...I'm staying right here.
Her: (bursts out laughing...and I have to say...she has one of the most...um... unique laughs...I have ever heard)
Ignoring her laugh I proceeded to go direct and say: actually I came over her because I saw you earlier and I thought you were cute....etc.
After that things just shot off like a rocket.
Since I click so well with artsy people, we have so many things to talk about so I don't know if remember EVERYTHING that was said. Basically she's asked me questions, I asked her questions, she qualified me, I qualified her, there was touching and connecting. She also slid in that she had a boyfriend but didn't seem to mind me kissing her forehead or cheeks.
We even had this moment come up where we were looking at the bookshelf and she was telling me all the books she's read on that shelf. Fifty Shades of Grey just so happened to be on it.
I asked if she read them. She said: yes. All three
I'm like: you know what that tells me about you?
Her: (she smiled and said something qualifying herself. I think: that makes me even more attractive to you huh?)
Then I qualified her saying: I like how she very open about her sexuality etc.
Moved her outside the bookstore, we sat outside and talked some more. She was really interested in my art and music and I was trying not to talk about myself too much so I made her guess a lot of things and rewarded her for things she got right. Then I start beat-boxing and she was going to "try" to free-style. But she couldn't come up with much..so she laughed at herself and stopped. Her: I'm not good at this!
Turns out she doesn't have dreads, her hair is just really wavy and the strands group together making it look like she has dreads. Found out she's Italian but not from Italy. Her dad talks like a mobster.
Got her number, set up meeting up possibly on thursday. She told me I have to call her first because she was going to her hometown for winter break. Turns out she's a morning person just like me. She hates to text.
She loves and hates a lot of the same things as me. It's almost like I found my twin soul.
And the weird part about it is that I sensed it from first glance.
This really was my BEST interaction I've had so far and it's a shame that I don't feel like typing it all out.
Near the end when she had to go I asked if she was adventurous as we were standing close looking into each others eyes. I was going to try and go for the kiss. She knew what I was trying to do and said: depends on what it is. I DO have a boyfriend you know?
Me: it's just a kiss.
Then she started preaching to me about respecting her boyfriend and stuff. Good job, she's faithful.
I really think I still could've done it though.
I'll just re type everything in detail when I feel better. So much happened and long story short she wants to hang out before she leaves.
So far I have:
Haitian girl
Friend from high school
Kaitlyn
CostaRicangirl
Venezuelan girl
As the latest girls I got numbers from and working towards getting with.
Haitian girl-- have not spoken to in a while. She's increasingly becoming more dificult to talk to. Can never seem to get a free day to meet up. High chance of LMR due to the fact that I haven't even gotten to deep dive much or set much sexual frames.
Friend from high school--- I speak to everyone in a while. She sends me funny pictures of memes every now and then. She's open but has a boyfriend. Can never seem to get her to meetup. She has family issues going on right now and can't drive at the moment.
Kaityln--- the girl I made out with. She is possibly open for anything. I haven't really contacted her since this weekend. She has a ride. Slim chance of LMR. But also I don't know how things will be between us now after that kiss.
CostaRicanGirl---- I have the latest interaction in two posts above. I have no idea how things are now. I could just pretend like nothing happened and keep trying to meet up. Chances of LMR are high.
Venezualn girl--- haven't spoken to her since the day we met. No reply from texts. Haven't tried to contact her since. She has a boyfriend. Chances of LMR are high...
And now artsy girl
I have a hard time letting go of some girls. I still feel like I have a chance and maybe I just didn't set a frame here yet or I didn't make my Intentions clear there.
Part of the problem is that I wait too long to contact them because of the bad logistics thing.
If I had my own car, you know damn well I'd be pulling up to their place or meeting them somewhere, sweeping them off their feet, and getting lays like crazy!
But I have to work with what I have now.
That's all.
Peace.
I'll try to keep this short. I don't feel very well and I'm still exhausted.
Went to the outdoor shopping center yesterday. The one that has all the stuck up rich folks.
I usually hate gaming there because girls wo t even stop when you try and get their attention. They're also rude.
This time it went really well. Maybe my fundamentals are getting better.
I was inside of the bookstore just killing time until the city bus arrived.
Practiced looking with my peripherals. To the side of me I feel this familiar energy and look from the corner of my eye.
Standing down the aisle is a short brunette in a long form fitting black dress. She looks like she has dreads going down to her back and she's absolutely adorable. Just one look at her and you can tell she's an artsy creative type.
Being a creative artsy person myself, I know just how open minded people like that are..and I was spot on...but we'll get to that in a second.
I needed to preopen. She kept moving from place to place checking out books. Everytime I decided to go stand next to her to pretend to look at a book, she'd move or people would stand over near us.
I don't mind doing pickup in front of people...but for some reason I didn't want anybody hearing my opener...so I waited til she was alone.
After some long waiting, she was finally standing by herself at a bookshelf, looking at at the books.
I walked up to her and then planted myself beside her while avoiding eye contact. I wanted her to see me first.
Turns out, she thought I was trying to walk by so then she moved aside rapidly as if she was panicking and said: oh sorry!
I just looked calmly at her.
Me: why are you saying sorry?
Her: I thought you were about to walk infront of me.
Me: oh no...I'm staying right here.
Her: (bursts out laughing...and I have to say...she has one of the most...um... unique laughs...I have ever heard)
Ignoring her laugh I proceeded to go direct and say: actually I came over her because I saw you earlier and I thought you were cute....etc.
After that things just shot off like a rocket.
Since I click so well with artsy people, we have so many things to talk about so I don't know if remember EVERYTHING that was said. Basically she's asked me questions, I asked her questions, she qualified me, I qualified her, there was touching and connecting. She also slid in that she had a boyfriend but didn't seem to mind me kissing her forehead or cheeks.
We even had this moment come up where we were looking at the bookshelf and she was telling me all the books she's read on that shelf. Fifty Shades of Grey just so happened to be on it.
I asked if she read them. She said: yes. All three
I'm like: you know what that tells me about you?
Her: (she smiled and said something qualifying herself. I think: that makes me even more attractive to you huh?)
Then I qualified her saying: I like how she very open about her sexuality etc.
Moved her outside the bookstore, we sat outside and talked some more. She was really interested in my art and music and I was trying not to talk about myself too much so I made her guess a lot of things and rewarded her for things she got right. Then I start beat-boxing and she was going to "try" to free-style. But she couldn't come up with much..so she laughed at herself and stopped. Her: I'm not good at this!
Turns out she doesn't have dreads, her hair is just really wavy and the strands group together making it look like she has dreads. Found out she's Italian but not from Italy. Her dad talks like a mobster.
Got her number, set up meeting up possibly on thursday. She told me I have to call her first because she was going to her hometown for winter break. Turns out she's a morning person just like me. She hates to text.
She loves and hates a lot of the same things as me. It's almost like I found my twin soul.
And the weird part about it is that I sensed it from first glance.
This really was my BEST interaction I've had so far and it's a shame that I don't feel like typing it all out.
Near the end when she had to go I asked if she was adventurous as we were standing close looking into each others eyes. I was going to try and go for the kiss. She knew what I was trying to do and said: depends on what it is. I DO have a boyfriend you know?
Me: it's just a kiss.
Then she started preaching to me about respecting her boyfriend and stuff. Good job, she's faithful.
I really think I still could've done it though.
I'll just re type everything in detail when I feel better. So much happened and long story short she wants to hang out before she leaves.
So far I have:
Haitian girl
Friend from high school
Kaitlyn
CostaRicangirl
Venezuelan girl
As the latest girls I got numbers from and working towards getting with.
Haitian girl-- have not spoken to in a while. She's increasingly becoming more dificult to talk to. Can never seem to get a free day to meet up. High chance of LMR due to the fact that I haven't even gotten to deep dive much or set much sexual frames.
Friend from high school--- I speak to everyone in a while. She sends me funny pictures of memes every now and then. She's open but has a boyfriend. Can never seem to get her to meetup. She has family issues going on right now and can't drive at the moment.
Kaityln--- the girl I made out with. She is possibly open for anything. I haven't really contacted her since this weekend. She has a ride. Slim chance of LMR. But also I don't know how things will be between us now after that kiss.
CostaRicanGirl---- I have the latest interaction in two posts above. I have no idea how things are now. I could just pretend like nothing happened and keep trying to meet up. Chances of LMR are high.
Venezualn girl--- haven't spoken to her since the day we met. No reply from texts. Haven't tried to contact her since. She has a boyfriend. Chances of LMR are high...
And now artsy girl
I have a hard time letting go of some girls. I still feel like I have a chance and maybe I just didn't set a frame here yet or I didn't make my Intentions clear there.
Part of the problem is that I wait too long to contact them because of the bad logistics thing.
If I had my own car, you know damn well I'd be pulling up to their place or meeting them somewhere, sweeping them off their feet, and getting lays like crazy!
But I have to work with what I have now.
That's all.
Peace.
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I feel kind of embarrassed that newcomers to GC evolve faster than I do and I've been reading and applying this stuff since May 2012 and I'm not that far at all.
I feel very weak and I also feel like I don't deserve any of the girls I try to talk to. A lot of insecurities keep setting in and part of me wants to give up.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
^this is what I do. I go to the same places. I say the same things. I follow the same routines. I go through the same emotion highs and lows.
I'm about to make 2014 different. I'm going to start meditating again to have better control over my anxiety issues.
I'm going to really work on my fundamentals. My fundamentals are something like a facade that I put on whenever I'm in public or around attractive girls, but in reality, I'm not really this slow moving manly being that gets girls wet.
One word to describe me if saw me being "myself" is: Corny.
Maybe even Goofy.
But not masculine.
I don't command respect. My own one year younger brother and Mom talk down to me and ignore what I say as if I'm the embarrassment to the family.
I'm sorry...I'm complaining and being negative. Time to go workout.
Peace
I feel very weak and I also feel like I don't deserve any of the girls I try to talk to. A lot of insecurities keep setting in and part of me wants to give up.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
^this is what I do. I go to the same places. I say the same things. I follow the same routines. I go through the same emotion highs and lows.
I'm about to make 2014 different. I'm going to start meditating again to have better control over my anxiety issues.
I'm going to really work on my fundamentals. My fundamentals are something like a facade that I put on whenever I'm in public or around attractive girls, but in reality, I'm not really this slow moving manly being that gets girls wet.
One word to describe me if saw me being "myself" is: Corny.
Maybe even Goofy.
But not masculine.
I don't command respect. My own one year younger brother and Mom talk down to me and ignore what I say as if I'm the embarrassment to the family.
I'm sorry...I'm complaining and being negative. Time to go workout.
Peace
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Realization: all of this insecurity sets in when you're not living your life with abundance.
I haven't been gaming in weeks and now seeing all the success on guys on the forums and looking at myself and thinking: "why am I not doing that? "
Makes me depressed and I should go solve it by going out and practicing.
I haven't been gaming in weeks and now seeing all the success on guys on the forums and looking at myself and thinking: "why am I not doing that? "
Makes me depressed and I should go solve it by going out and practicing.
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Dude Wes I feel the same way sometimes. Like literally since I've gotten back from my trip my A.A. has gone up and I'm being a bitch and not approaching women I should be. Not only that but I see NJ and Zphix posting the most legit cold approach LR's ever and my first thought is that I'm slippin super hard and kinda jealous. Then I think "wholly shit I'm comparing myself to someone else when their situation is nothing like mine. I'm stoked that they can share their adventures so I can learn better!"
It sounds like you don't do the second part meaning that you don't try and correct faulty thought patterns that are holding you back. Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like that's the case.
That and you need to build your self-esteem up a bit (which hey I think we could all use a higher self esteem) with your mom, bro, whoever tooling you and putting you down it really seeps into your sub-conscious and unconscious mind and goes into creating your mental image of yourself. I used to have friends that tooled me like crazy, didn't respect me at times, and always pointed out my flaws and told me I couldn't be xyz that I wanted to be. I X'd them the fuck out my life and created a new mental vision of myself through self-improvement. No need for unnecessary negativity.
Besides I was reading one of your FR's from a recent one you posted and I was like "damn I'm letting Wes catch up. I need to get my ass out and do some approaches!" so dude ignore the emotions and go have some fun talking to women. Enjoy the process of getting rejected and having good convo's in some places.
p.s.- Definitely recommend you start meditating again and make it a habit. I can't tell you how much meditation has helped with my self improvement. I meditate 10-20 min. a day no matter what. All you have to do is sit and fucking breathe and your life improves like lol what an awesome concept.
Anyway your just riding emotions you'll make a mack move and get back up in the zone in no time partner.
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Wesley said:
Fundamentals are the crux of success in this field, it seems. It's the bread and butter of the grander strategy of actually making moves to get her in bed with you, but she won't bite unless the bait's sufficiently attractive. I can definitely attest also to your feelings of insecurity, and I have that all the time. I'll go on a date with a girl, or meet one on the street and think it went really well--this could be the one! And then I'll never see or hear from her again, and it leaves you wondering what could have been, and weak. I've felt like giving up many times in the last few weeks and I haven't been practicing nearly as much as I should be.
Mr.Rob said:
Agree 100%, also have had this happen.
Mr.Rob said:
I can also attest to this: sometimes I wake up feeling terrible and depressed, lonely and miserable, but just fifteen minutes of meditating can set the world straight and make me feel a lot better as I breathe deeply, clear my mind, and thank the world for everything I do have, and not worry about what I don't have...yet.
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Thanks for the support guys. That made me feel better.
As soon as 2014 begins I'm going to be waking up before everyone else and going to bed after everyone else.
Basically plowing, plowing, plowing until I have to leave to basic training in May.
@Mr.Rob...dude you better go approach those girls before I drive over there and force you, you didn't co e all this way to be taken out by some lowly newb problem such as approach anxiety. Dude, we should push each other.like I should give you a dollar or something for every date you get...and maybe amp that if you get a lay. Lol
Anyways today,
I tried breathing exercises today around town whenever I started feeling nervous/anxious and it really calmed me down.
I just tried to take my mind off of the over thinking that I normally do and I began to relax. Next step: actually staying calm while I converse with a girl so I don't screw things up by not thinking properly.
Today I ran errands and shiet and then my uncle ended up seeing me tryi g to catch a bus so I rode with him. We went to Walmart and he told me he'll give me 5 dollars if I can get a girl's number. Numbers are easy but it all depends...and I wanted that 5 dollars lol. I saw this cute thin white girl wearing leggings hurrying past to the candy aisle and I decided to walk after her.
As I followed her, a few dudes turned their heads to check her out and kept walking. I smirked and said to one of them: "are you gonna stare or are you gonna do something about it?"
He smirked back at me noticed that I was going in for the kill.
She stopped on the candy aisle and I slowly and casually walked into the aisle, looking at the candy like I was shopping.
I noticed her look at me from the corner of my eye and then she looked back the candy. She was doing really rapid movements so I'm guessing she was in a rush.
I strolled up beside her
"you are the most beautiful girl I've seen all day"
She smiled and quietly said thank you and looked back at the candy.
"are you single?"
"no"
"well, he's a lucky guy"
And I walked away...
As I walked away she rushed past me and went to the checkout with her handfuls of starburst, M&m's, and Skittles.
I didn't even try for that one. I was just hoping to get lucky so I can get $5
Next I approached this lady (also wearing leggings/yoga tights/whatever...2013 is like the year of fit chicks and yoga tights) who just got off the phone.
Time to cheat. Lol
I walked over to her and said: "hey, can you help me out really quick? My uncle is going to give me $5 if I get a girl's number here...can you put a number in my phone while he's looking so it looks like you gave me a number?"
She laughed and said: "I don't know how my husband would feel about that if he walked by and saw me doing that and I have a baby on the way" (she's pregnant but not that fat yet)
"well can't you just tell him what's going on?"
"sure...where's your uncle?"
He just walked down another aisle. Just perfect.
"hold on, wait until he comes back"
We waited for a minute and he was busy shopping and talking on his cell phone so I told her I'll type a number in, show it to him and when we walk past her, she should wave at me.
She said okay and then asked why my uncle was too afraid to get her number himself.
Me: "he already has a girlfriend...he said that he's "teaching" me game so he wants me to do this." (even though I already know game but he says the game that I do is "corny" and sounds like it came from an Internet blog...oh how ironic)
I went back to my uncle and showed him the fake number in my phone and he said: "no,I have to SEE you get it"
And just then we saw this sexy white girl also in yoga tights and a rocking fit body, toned legs. Oh my god.
My uncle was like: "damn, these Florida white girls, GODDAMN" because apparently the white girls from where he's from are not good looking at all.
I walked over to her and whispered the same thing that I did to the other woman. She started smiling and said the same thing about why can't my uncle just get her number himself and I'm like: No, it's for me!
So she proceeded to loudly tell me some numbers as I punched them into my phone and my uncle walked past all amazed and what not.
Then she told me to put the name Rachel, which might actually be her name...hell, the number might actually be real...she didn't seem like she was coming up with a fake number.
Then I told her to hug me and she hugged me. Then she said: "you should have no problems getting numbers on your own, you're cute"
OH SCHNAAAP! Compliment?! SHIIIIEEETTT! Thank you. Lol
I walked back to him and he was in disbelief. He was like: let me see it, you didn't really get it, you must must be tricking me.
And I just played it off like: whatever, believe me if you want, you just saw for yourself.
Then he's like: what'd you say?
And I came up with some genuine sounding conversation that sounds a lot like how my normal pickups go.
He reached in his wallet and gave me 5 dollars. LOL
But, actually, this whole thing showed me something.
See, I was never one to FULLY have the mindset of "girls are cute and silly" because every once in awhile I see a girl and she is just sooo good looking that she's not even human in my mind. I immediately have these girls on a pedestal in my mind...or when I talk to them I'm doing frames where I'm setting them as the prize.
this girl was like that.
But when I was asking her to help me out and she was going along with it, smiling and laughing and stuff, I saw her actual personality for that short minute instead of seeing the side of her putting up resistance to yet another guy trying to seduce her.
Just like Chase has said...this girl was silly and cute.
When women don't feel like you're trying to "get" something from them, you can actually see who they are instead of running into their wall of auto-pilot rejecting.
Made me realize that if I see a sexy woman, I should approach not with the intention to get something from her but to see who she is and share that moment with her if we connect and we just bounce good feelings off of one another.
And lastly, my uncle attempt at game.
We were walking into a pawn shop and he held the door open for a lady align behind us who was dressed in office clothes. Sexy office clothes.
All three of us walked to the front register and my uncle let her walk ahead of us and checked her out.
He was like: there you go, Wes, that's all yours.
I just shook my head like: whatever.
Then he said to her: how are you?
She had this expression on her face that was clearly frustration from a long day at work. She seemed okay with my uncle asking how she was doing.
Her: (starts complaining about her long day at work)
Uncle: well, at least you have someone to give you a foot massage when you get home. (this is how he finds out if a woman is single)
She just smirked and then went back to her concerned/frustrated/exhausted facial expression.
Silence.
Then she reopened him.
Her: what about you? How are you?
Uncle: ha! I'm good. So far youre the nicest person in (town) I've seen.
Her: I take it you're from up north?
Uncle: Mhm..Tennessee.
Then she asked him why he was here, what he does for a living and they talked about work. Then another silence. Then he reopened saying: let me get your number.
She was like: I'm sorry, I'm faithful.
Uncle: aww...
Then he proceeded to talk about how she can file his taxes sometime or something... Because that's what she does.
Then she asked him questions about what problems he was having with them and a bunch of language into that world that I don't fully understand.
Then it was her turn in line. She walked to the desk and conversation ended.
Then we walked to another opening.
I asked him if he was trying to be friends with her now (because that was definitely that route he was heading)
He said yes and then when we finished up, he handed her his card. She put it in her purse and said thanks.
We went outside and I was like: do you think that she'll really call it?
And he proceeded to tell me: duh! She knew it was on!
And then told me about all his game tricks and why each thing works. Lol
The things he does either puts him in provider roles or friend roles and is also the same thing any guy can think up he tried to.
Anyways, that's all for now.
Peace.
As soon as 2014 begins I'm going to be waking up before everyone else and going to bed after everyone else.
Basically plowing, plowing, plowing until I have to leave to basic training in May.
@Mr.Rob...dude you better go approach those girls before I drive over there and force you, you didn't co e all this way to be taken out by some lowly newb problem such as approach anxiety. Dude, we should push each other.like I should give you a dollar or something for every date you get...and maybe amp that if you get a lay. Lol
Anyways today,
I tried breathing exercises today around town whenever I started feeling nervous/anxious and it really calmed me down.
I just tried to take my mind off of the over thinking that I normally do and I began to relax. Next step: actually staying calm while I converse with a girl so I don't screw things up by not thinking properly.
Today I ran errands and shiet and then my uncle ended up seeing me tryi g to catch a bus so I rode with him. We went to Walmart and he told me he'll give me 5 dollars if I can get a girl's number. Numbers are easy but it all depends...and I wanted that 5 dollars lol. I saw this cute thin white girl wearing leggings hurrying past to the candy aisle and I decided to walk after her.
As I followed her, a few dudes turned their heads to check her out and kept walking. I smirked and said to one of them: "are you gonna stare or are you gonna do something about it?"
He smirked back at me noticed that I was going in for the kill.
She stopped on the candy aisle and I slowly and casually walked into the aisle, looking at the candy like I was shopping.
I noticed her look at me from the corner of my eye and then she looked back the candy. She was doing really rapid movements so I'm guessing she was in a rush.
I strolled up beside her
"you are the most beautiful girl I've seen all day"
She smiled and quietly said thank you and looked back at the candy.
"are you single?"
"no"
"well, he's a lucky guy"
And I walked away...
As I walked away she rushed past me and went to the checkout with her handfuls of starburst, M&m's, and Skittles.
I didn't even try for that one. I was just hoping to get lucky so I can get $5
Next I approached this lady (also wearing leggings/yoga tights/whatever...2013 is like the year of fit chicks and yoga tights) who just got off the phone.
Time to cheat. Lol
I walked over to her and said: "hey, can you help me out really quick? My uncle is going to give me $5 if I get a girl's number here...can you put a number in my phone while he's looking so it looks like you gave me a number?"
She laughed and said: "I don't know how my husband would feel about that if he walked by and saw me doing that and I have a baby on the way" (she's pregnant but not that fat yet)
"well can't you just tell him what's going on?"
"sure...where's your uncle?"
He just walked down another aisle. Just perfect.
"hold on, wait until he comes back"
We waited for a minute and he was busy shopping and talking on his cell phone so I told her I'll type a number in, show it to him and when we walk past her, she should wave at me.
She said okay and then asked why my uncle was too afraid to get her number himself.
Me: "he already has a girlfriend...he said that he's "teaching" me game so he wants me to do this." (even though I already know game but he says the game that I do is "corny" and sounds like it came from an Internet blog...oh how ironic)
I went back to my uncle and showed him the fake number in my phone and he said: "no,I have to SEE you get it"
And just then we saw this sexy white girl also in yoga tights and a rocking fit body, toned legs. Oh my god.
My uncle was like: "damn, these Florida white girls, GODDAMN" because apparently the white girls from where he's from are not good looking at all.
I walked over to her and whispered the same thing that I did to the other woman. She started smiling and said the same thing about why can't my uncle just get her number himself and I'm like: No, it's for me!
So she proceeded to loudly tell me some numbers as I punched them into my phone and my uncle walked past all amazed and what not.
Then she told me to put the name Rachel, which might actually be her name...hell, the number might actually be real...she didn't seem like she was coming up with a fake number.
Then I told her to hug me and she hugged me. Then she said: "you should have no problems getting numbers on your own, you're cute"
OH SCHNAAAP! Compliment?! SHIIIIEEETTT! Thank you. Lol
I walked back to him and he was in disbelief. He was like: let me see it, you didn't really get it, you must must be tricking me.
And I just played it off like: whatever, believe me if you want, you just saw for yourself.
Then he's like: what'd you say?
And I came up with some genuine sounding conversation that sounds a lot like how my normal pickups go.
He reached in his wallet and gave me 5 dollars. LOL
But, actually, this whole thing showed me something.
See, I was never one to FULLY have the mindset of "girls are cute and silly" because every once in awhile I see a girl and she is just sooo good looking that she's not even human in my mind. I immediately have these girls on a pedestal in my mind...or when I talk to them I'm doing frames where I'm setting them as the prize.
this girl was like that.
But when I was asking her to help me out and she was going along with it, smiling and laughing and stuff, I saw her actual personality for that short minute instead of seeing the side of her putting up resistance to yet another guy trying to seduce her.
Just like Chase has said...this girl was silly and cute.
When women don't feel like you're trying to "get" something from them, you can actually see who they are instead of running into their wall of auto-pilot rejecting.
Made me realize that if I see a sexy woman, I should approach not with the intention to get something from her but to see who she is and share that moment with her if we connect and we just bounce good feelings off of one another.
And lastly, my uncle attempt at game.
We were walking into a pawn shop and he held the door open for a lady align behind us who was dressed in office clothes. Sexy office clothes.
All three of us walked to the front register and my uncle let her walk ahead of us and checked her out.
He was like: there you go, Wes, that's all yours.
I just shook my head like: whatever.
Then he said to her: how are you?
She had this expression on her face that was clearly frustration from a long day at work. She seemed okay with my uncle asking how she was doing.
Her: (starts complaining about her long day at work)
Uncle: well, at least you have someone to give you a foot massage when you get home. (this is how he finds out if a woman is single)
She just smirked and then went back to her concerned/frustrated/exhausted facial expression.
Silence.
Then she reopened him.
Her: what about you? How are you?
Uncle: ha! I'm good. So far youre the nicest person in (town) I've seen.
Her: I take it you're from up north?
Uncle: Mhm..Tennessee.
Then she asked him why he was here, what he does for a living and they talked about work. Then another silence. Then he reopened saying: let me get your number.
She was like: I'm sorry, I'm faithful.
Uncle: aww...
Then he proceeded to talk about how she can file his taxes sometime or something... Because that's what she does.
Then she asked him questions about what problems he was having with them and a bunch of language into that world that I don't fully understand.
Then it was her turn in line. She walked to the desk and conversation ended.
Then we walked to another opening.
I asked him if he was trying to be friends with her now (because that was definitely that route he was heading)
He said yes and then when we finished up, he handed her his card. She put it in her purse and said thanks.
We went outside and I was like: do you think that she'll really call it?
And he proceeded to tell me: duh! She knew it was on!
And then told me about all his game tricks and why each thing works. Lol
The things he does either puts him in provider roles or friend roles and is also the same thing any guy can think up he tried to.
Anyways, that's all for now.
Peace.
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Hey guys, what can I do about my brother and mom tooling me?
Here's what my brother usually does: whenever I'm telling him a story or talking about my thoughts or something, he just quietly stares ahead with this blank expression on his face as if he's annoyed. Then he usually will just change the subject and start talking about his girlfriend or something that he cares about.
We used to be super close but every since I moved out and stayed with my mom (and started evolving) I guess he feels like I changed. Sometimes I'm just sharing the knowledge of GC with him, which is some pretty controversial stuff...and he just seems annoyed that I care so much about improving with girls.
He's a natural at getting girls and he has natural charisma. He also has a bad temper and a natural devil may care attitude.
He definitely has this "hard" exterior to him. A lot of people who judge him before they get to know him say that he's "gangster". But that's just how he carries himself.
Whenever him and my mom are in the same room, my mom takes to being on his side with everything. If I say something to add to the conversation and he ignores me, she does to. If he's like: wtf is wrong with you? She will as well.
Sometimes they treat me like I'm a retard. He's even told his friends that I was born retarded.
Like I said, all it is is that I'm goofy, socially awkward at times, and sometimes corny.
He looks at the way I dress sometimes and disapproves because I don't have "swag" and carry myself in a way that makes people afraid of me.
If he gets angry, I know I can take him in a fight. I've wrestled him down into a lock before whenever he "hulked" out.
But I just don't want to fight and I want to get along again and I want him to stop talking down to me and treating me as if I'm an embarrassment.
Here's what my brother usually does: whenever I'm telling him a story or talking about my thoughts or something, he just quietly stares ahead with this blank expression on his face as if he's annoyed. Then he usually will just change the subject and start talking about his girlfriend or something that he cares about.
We used to be super close but every since I moved out and stayed with my mom (and started evolving) I guess he feels like I changed. Sometimes I'm just sharing the knowledge of GC with him, which is some pretty controversial stuff...and he just seems annoyed that I care so much about improving with girls.
He's a natural at getting girls and he has natural charisma. He also has a bad temper and a natural devil may care attitude.
He definitely has this "hard" exterior to him. A lot of people who judge him before they get to know him say that he's "gangster". But that's just how he carries himself.
Whenever him and my mom are in the same room, my mom takes to being on his side with everything. If I say something to add to the conversation and he ignores me, she does to. If he's like: wtf is wrong with you? She will as well.
Sometimes they treat me like I'm a retard. He's even told his friends that I was born retarded.
Like I said, all it is is that I'm goofy, socially awkward at times, and sometimes corny.
He looks at the way I dress sometimes and disapproves because I don't have "swag" and carry myself in a way that makes people afraid of me.
If he gets angry, I know I can take him in a fight. I've wrestled him down into a lock before whenever he "hulked" out.
But I just don't want to fight and I want to get along again and I want him to stop talking down to me and treating me as if I'm an embarrassment.
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That sucks ass your family treats you like that. In one sense you've set yourself up in the past to be treated like so and they're in the habit of doing that now but in another sense that's fucked up your own family won't even respect you for who you are. Also sucks to have Debbie downers when you tell them about your self improvement aspirations. Sorry to hear you don't have any support but not to worry. You'll live and are actually in more control than you think.
First off you need to realize that if you keep company with people (I say people cause I mean anyone that treats you as such including family, friends, etc) that put you down and don't respect you you'll end up putting yourself down and losing respect for yourself. Really bad for your self-esteem amigo.
When I realized what bad affect my friends that tooled me were on my self esteem I cut contact with them. Mind you these were guys that I viewed as brothers and vice versa. We had been through a lot and hung out all the time over the course of 4 years. I gained their respect in certain aspects but was still tooled in others especially in places affecting my success with women.
I cut contact with them and only talk to them when I see them randomly. They respect me more now and I feel free as a bird. I also feel highly esteemed, imagine that!
So yes I hate to say it but I would cut contact and read Chase's article on developing a higher self-esteem if you haven't already.
Over and out amigo
-Rob
First off you need to realize that if you keep company with people (I say people cause I mean anyone that treats you as such including family, friends, etc) that put you down and don't respect you you'll end up putting yourself down and losing respect for yourself. Really bad for your self-esteem amigo.
When I realized what bad affect my friends that tooled me were on my self esteem I cut contact with them. Mind you these were guys that I viewed as brothers and vice versa. We had been through a lot and hung out all the time over the course of 4 years. I gained their respect in certain aspects but was still tooled in others especially in places affecting my success with women.
I cut contact with them and only talk to them when I see them randomly. They respect me more now and I feel free as a bird. I also feel highly esteemed, imagine that!
So yes I hate to say it but I would cut contact and read Chase's article on developing a higher self-esteem if you haven't already.
Over and out amigo
-Rob