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@Skills,

chase a bit off topic remember i was trying to explain that to you here, now you understand the context...


I understood it back then, too ;)

I have seen some "star power effects" the few times girls found out about Girls Chase and got exposed to the size and scope of it.

However, just not a tool I want to use, for myself.


@Atlas IV,

One thing I've come to realize is that female fashion models, by and large, are not judged based on traits that we men perceive as sexually attractive. They are selected by agencies for being photogenic, tall, skinny, and having a look that's versatile enough to model for many different kinds of outfits.

Yep. Beanpoles.

Boobs or butts are a demerit in the model world.

Not to mention the ones I've met are mostly vain, self-centered, boring people with personality disorders.

This has been my experience with models as well.

So all that is to say... Cold Approach is 👑

Impossible to beat.

-C
 

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This turned into a really interesting thread. I love it when a highly opinionated newcomer triggers all the Tribal Elders into producing an informative discussion. We should do it more often!
Haha since no one is giving me any. I would forcefully take this as a compliment 😉.

"You can get more out of people by stirring them up than by boring them." - Robert Greene, Art of Seduction.

Btw my core purpose was this only, to get maximum out of guys with experience. An authentic and fearless question from my side expecting some backlash and hopefully a lot of new learning and knowledge.
 

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have seen some "star power effects" the few times girls found out about Girls Chase and got exposed to the size and scope of it.
I would love an elaboration on this point. One of my and hopefully of other people's interest areas.

That's what I am saying. Can we DELIBERATELY ORCHESTRATE star power like this on more numerous scale ?
Is it more work than cold approach where we have start at beginning for every single girl ?
Don't you think we can use it as massive attraction trigger and after that just need to have our inner game in place which is easy for any guy with little experience.
how about scope and SCALE (thousands of and millions of women) of it's effectiveness.
It's like installing attraction triggers in masses with advent of social media and other tools?
As the time and technology evolves should we add all these things to our tool box?

Please can you share more on this?
 

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become the dude who steals Megan Fox from MGK down the road.
That's the ridiculous ambition I have. That's why I am here haha.
But tbh Megan Fox is ok for Mltr Or at max an LTR.

I would rather go for (as life partner and my ideal type - Amal clooney, Neri oxman, Gita gopinath etc.)

A classy, hot Harvard professor over some actress anyday.
 

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"You can get more out of people by stirring them up than by boring them." - Robert Greene, Art of Seduction.
A better way of doing it is to build them up.
Btw my core purpose was this only, to get maximum out of guys with experience. An authentic and fearless question from my side expecting some backlash and hopefully a lot of new learning and knowledge.
Again, there are smoother ways of getting what you want.
A better starting point would probably be about how it's possible to date celebs as a civilian vs leveraging fame/money/status.
Would definitely get more acurate responses and also generate a better discussion.

I know it was not your intention, but there's no need to piss people off....even when it's done very lightly and you get good replies.

Also practical posts/doubts are way more interesting than guessings or future projetions.
A guy who is in field and posts something that talks about his experience is usually much more relatable than the theorists.

Just my 2 cents.
I would rather go for (as life partner and my ideal type - Amal clooney, Neri oxman, Gita gopinath etc.)
Damn, those are old!
 
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I would bet that the OP here has not achieved much in the Game and with girls, without reading most of this thread. Its a pure theoritical rant by someone who is not even getting the local cuties.

Its always the ones who are at step 1 who fantasize and theorize about step 100.

Well, if MPUAs are not getting celebrities, then is learning Game worth it?

That is exactly the kind of far off theoritical question that serves as a perfect distraction to not concentrate on just taking the next step.

Meanwhile, how about you just concentrate on getting the cute ones who you see in your neighborhood first. Anyone who has already reached a stage where he can get all the "regular" girls but has some great desire to bed celebrities would have a lot more nuance and be way more specific in what they write.

This post is a perfect example of pure mental masturbation.
 

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I would love an elaboration on this point. One of my and hopefully of other people's interest areas.

That's what I am saying. Can we DELIBERATELY ORCHESTRATE star power like this on more numerous scale ?
Is it more work than cold approach where we have start at beginning for every single girl ?

I'm noticing a trend

For some reason a lot of noobs have this fantasy of grandeur but are unwilling to do groundwork

If you can't close a girl from cold approach what makes you think you will be able to close a girl after you orchestrate all this star power?

I've seen it happen in different ways too

Some guy will be convinced money is the key. Then spend all his time accumulating wealth but is still a massive pussy when it comes to girls and have to rely on sugar dating or prostitution to get sex

Another will work on his looks. Then start crying about why women don't approach him and end up settling for girls way below is looks level

Another will work on Status. Then he attracts girls that are social climbers but still have problems sleeping with them because he is still a dweeb


Don't you think we can use it as massive attraction trigger and after that just need to have our inner game in place which is easy for any guy with little experience.

Let me save you lots of time

Attraction is not enough

Even if a girl is attracted to you it does not mean she will sleep with you. Anyone that has a good amount of experience in women will tell you that

What gets you laid is COMPLIANCE

Sure LMS can help you generate upfront compliance but if you are still a dweeb you will not get the girls you really want. There is a reason why girls say things like "He looked good until he opened his mouth"

how about scope and SCALE (thousands of and millions of women) of it's effectiveness.

Ok so lets use business terms of how to scale

Before you can make 1 million dollars you need to learn how to make $1 first

If you don't have the skills to make a little money you won't have the skills to scale

Why?

Because you will lack the basic understanding of how to generate income. Once you have that basic understanding it becomes easier to know what levers to pull to make more

Sadly you can't skip steps

It's like installing attraction triggers in masses with advent of social media and other tools?
As the time and technology evolves should we add all these things to our tool box?

Please can you share more on this?

I already told you to go check out Michael Sartain: Man of Action (Program)

Why are you still asking this? It's all there

His entire system was made for guys like you that don't want to cold approach and who want to become celebrities

I have given you a resource to follow

Most people here are not interested in that but there are other places on the web that focus specifically on that style of game. Just go there

But something tells me you won't do it

Because think about? How long have you been having this fantasy?

How much more thinking do you need to do before you take action? 3 months? 6months? 10 years?

I understand you are trying to find the best solution to your problems but the more time you procrastinate by thinking about all these optimal strategies the more time you will remain sexless

It's your choice really. Can choose to keep making these debates that lead nowhere or can start taking real action then asking for feedback with problems you encounter when interacting with real life women here
 
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I understand you are trying to find the best solution to your problems but the more time you procrastinate by thinking about all these optimal strategies the more time you will remain sexless

@Seduceceleb, I second @TomInHo in here.

Most of the questions you are asking come from assumptions on how things work based on your limited experience.
As you gain experience in seduction, you will realize how attraction works (what it can and can’t get you), the power and limits of social proof and women’s general behavior on choosing mates.

We can keep discussing whether your conceptions of celeb status work or not… but you would be much best served by engaging more time in field.
 

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This turned into a really interesting thread. I love it when a highly opinionated newcomer triggers all the Tribal Elders into producing an informative discussion. We should do it more often!

I can't comment on actresses, but I can comment on models. I've recently been doing some modelling and gotten invited into some fairly high-end modelling social circles and parties in my city.

One thing I've come to realize is that female fashion models, by and large, are not judged based on traits that we men perceive as sexually attractive. They are selected by agencies for being photogenic, tall, skinny, and having a look that's versatile enough to model for many different kinds of outfits.

Maybe some metrosexual high-fashion guys are into girls of that look, but after getting into this crowd, I realize now that I'm really not that attracted to these types. At least not more than the ones I meet in cold approach.

Not to mention the ones I've met are mostly vain, self-centered, boring people with personality disorders.


Yes, yes and YES. I've dated two from this SC who both turned out to have crazy attachment issues and mild autism. They also look like 9s from their Instagram, but IRL without makeup they are not even as hot as the girls I meet in the mall or the metro.

So all that is to say... Cold Approach is 👑

YES! Glad you had similar experiences as well. I remember approaching these 2 blonde models at a fashion event (they were both with Ford, which is one of the biggest agencies in the world. Both also did international modeling as well). They were maybe 7’s in real life, but in their pics they’re both 9’s. Both were mad tall tho. I had a girl from another big agency come to one of my parties and hanging out with her basically taught me everything I needed to know about models lol. Also not as hot as in pics. Once you actually
meet them in real life the illusion is crazy.
 

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I'm noticing a trend

For some reason a lot of noobs have this fantasy of grandeur but are unwilling to do groundwork

If you can't close a girl from cold approach what makes you think you will be able to close a girl after you orchestrate all this star power?

I've seen it happen in different ways too

Some guy will be convinced money is the key. Then spend all his time accumulating wealth but is still a massive pussy when it comes to girls and have to rely on sugar dating or prostitution to get sex

Another will work on his looks. Then start crying about why women don't approach him and end up settling for girls way below is looks level

Another will work on Status. Then he attracts girls that are social climbers but still have problems sleeping with them because he is still a dweeb




Let me save you lots of time

Attraction is not enough

Even if a girl is attracted to you it does not mean she will sleep with you. Anyone that has a good amount of experience in women will tell you that

What gets you laid is COMPLIANCE

Sure LMS can help you generate upfront compliance but if you are still a dweeb you will not get the girls you really want. There is a reason why girls say things like "He looked good until he opened his mouth"



Ok so lets use business terms of how to scale

Before you can make 1 million dollars you need to learn how to make $1 first

If you don't have the skills to make a little money you won't have the skills to scale

Why?

Because you will lack the basic understanding of how to generate income. Once you have that basic understanding it becomes easier to know what levers to pull to make more

Sadly you can't skip steps



I already told you to go check out Michael Sartain: Man of Action (Program)

Why are you still asking this? It's all there

His entire system was made for guys like you that don't want to cold approach and who want to become celebrities

I have given you a resource to follow

Most people here are not interested in that but there are other places on the web that focus specifically on that style of game. Just go there

But something tells me you won't do it

Because think about? How long have you been having this fantasy?

How much more thinking do you need to do before you take action? 3 months? 6months? 10 years?

I understand you are trying to find the best solution to your problems but the more time you procrastinate by thinking about all these optimal strategies the more time you will remain sexless

It's your choice really. Can choose to keep making these debates that lead nowhere or can start taking real action then asking for feedback with problems you encounter when interacting with real life women here
I just looked up who Michael Sartain and his program is. He has some good points re social status and preselection but fuck his program is extremely cringe. Looks like he takes these guys surrounds them with hired Miami models, get's them to take pictures with them for their social media and gives them access to exclusive events, which basically seem like parties hosted by him with hired models. I don't know if any of these guys are getting laid of it though, but their social media certainly seems better.

The whole thing gives me major cringe vibes. But I guess if it works, who's to argue?
 

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tall, skinny, and having a look that's versatile enough to model for many different kinds of outfits.

yup


to get signed to a major agency have to be tall af like 5'10 or so and skinny.

to me, this model look is great girl to have standing next to you, but isn't my personal type that i'm most attracted to.
 

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Another will work on Status. Then he attracts girls that are social climbers but still have problems sleeping with them because he is still a dweeb

HAHAHA I see this a lot.

Guys get great at accumulating "status" or become masters of displaying fake status.

Then they just get used by the girls.

Attraction is not enough

YUP.

I have to tell this to guys all the time.

Attraction is just a tool in the toolbelt, and a fairly easy one at that.

After you learn to open + hook consistently, in my experience if you are a decent PUA you should be able to spark attraction in 90%+ of girls.

However, attraction alone doesn't get you laid !

I see too many guys that are satisfied/validated just because a girl is "attracted" and then they have the audacity to brag about it.

LOL. Save the bragging for IF you close them.


I just looked up who Michael Sartain and his program is. He has some good points re social status and preselection but fuck his program is extremely cringe. Looks like he takes these guys surrounds them with hired Miami models, get's them to take pictures with them for their social media and gives them access to exclusive events, which basically seem like parties hosted by him with hired models. I don't know if any of these guys are getting laid of it though, but their social media certainly seems better.

The whole thing gives me major cringe vibes. But I guess if it works, who's to argue?

Sartain's advice is very limited/low-level. There are other coaches who teach this stuff at a much higher, more subtle/discreet level.
 

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I just looked up who Michael Sartain and his program is. He has some good points re social status and preselection but fuck his program is extremely cringe. Looks like he takes these guys surrounds them with hired Miami models, get's them to take pictures with them for their social media and gives them access to exclusive events, which basically seem like parties hosted by him with hired models. I don't know if any of these guys are getting laid of it though, but their social media certainly seems better.

The whole thing gives me major cringe vibes. But I guess if it works, who's to argue?

It does look a lil cringey but something is better than nothing. I'm currently not aware of any other seduction product on the market that teaches guys how to leverage and create status but I can imagine there are better options out there

OP just needs something to get started
 

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I'm currently not aware of any other seduction product on the market that teaches guys how to leverage and create status but I can imagine there are better options out there
I mean there is Hector's King of College, which I really enjoyed reading, though that is mostly applicable to younger men who are going through a university setting.

It's sorta tough because there's so many variables at play when it comes to "creating status", the major one being the person's actual identity. People generally achieve some level of status through pursuit of passions, becoming really good at something, and then entering a domain where their unique contributions are appreciated.

Even if that's just adding your fun, warm-spirited energy to a certain social circle or crowd, you still need to participate in the common ground that ties those people together (you need to actually run if you're gonna be the coolest motherfucker in running club).

There's probably a lot I could write on with navigating the nightlife industry and leveraging seduction and power dynamics in that realm, as someone who actually works in the industry.... but at this point I don't recommend that pursuit to anyone who's starting from scratch lol. It's not worth the squeeze compared to other avenues of building reputation / career / social standing.

Generally speaking, it's better to focus on being really fucking good at what you do (whatever that thing may be, for one's own personal reasons) and then letting status and respect come to you, rather than seek it out.
 

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I would love an elaboration on this point. One of my and hopefully of other people's interest areas.

That's what I am saying. Can we DELIBERATELY ORCHESTRATE star power like this on more numerous scale ?
Is it more work than cold approach where we have start at beginning for every single girl ?
Don't you think we can use it as massive attraction trigger and after that just need to have our inner game in place which is easy for any guy with little experience.
how about scope and SCALE (thousands of and millions of women) of it's effectiveness.
It's like installing attraction triggers in masses with advent of social media and other tools?
As the time and technology evolves should we add all these things to our tool box?

Please can you share more on this?

Sure.

Step #1: take bootcamps with the most talented guys in the game, wing with a series of high count players and naturals, make ridiculous amounts of approaches, fail a lot, learn the ins and outs, shag a lot, date a bunch of out of your league girls.

Step #2: get active on the biggest seduction forums, do loads of field report breakdowns for other guys to train up your analytical skills and ability to add value, look to constantly draw insights and add to the conversation, become the #7 top-voted all-time poster on the largest global seduction forum and the most popular poster in your local seduction forum. Get guys to ask you to start a website.

Step #3: start a website and start regularly coaching guys to do what you do at the same time. Put tons of pressure on yourself to make sure your coaching clients get massive value out of their sessions with you. Discover that clients are almost always all missing the same series of steps, and that if you can teach these steps men will have significant upgrades in their game.

Step #4: integrate the lessons from your coaching into your teaching online, and use them plus the other stuff you have learned along the way as the basis for a book. Publish the book, keep publishing articles, get popular on Reddit, StumbleUpon, and other sites, end up being linked to all across the web on various forums, and begin pulling in hundreds of thousands of visitors per month, until you are the head of the highest trafficked, most popular men's dating advice blog on the planet. Accumulate hundreds, then thousands, of heart-warming testimonials from men about how you changed their lives, saved their lives, lifted them out of depression, got them approaching girls, gave them material that worked when nothing else did, were responsible for them meeting their girlfriend, fiancée, wife; have guys tell you they named their son after you because without you they'd never have met the mother.

Step #5: write a new video sales letter for one of your offers that includes many of these details in it. Head to the studio to record. Have the studio happen to have an attractive female assistant on-hand who overhears the entire story. Exit the studio after 2 hours of exhausting recording to find the female assistant starstruck and gushing about how incredible all that was and offering to drive you back into the city herself after she learns you took transit to get out of town, then have her hit on you the whole way back and not really want you to get out of her car.

Step #6: create another product, this one the most heavily researched and comprehensive program ever created on seduction. Spend 500 hours compiling it, researching it, making it as thorough as humanly possible. Then hire a film crew, fly to the film location, run casting calls with a series of actresses to screen for attractiveness + chemistry, start shooting. Slave drive the entire production, keeping everyone on-set 12-14 hours per day almost every single day for 2.5 weeks, finding every possible way you can to keep morale up and stave off burnout/exhaustion. A third of the way in get cornered on the balcony during a break between shooting by the female director and two actresses to be told that men don't need to learn this stuff, it is way too much information, it is just putting guys into their heads, that guys just need to follow their instincts. Respond to this by taking them through the entire thing: explain why it is so vital, explain the effects it has had on men and the scope of what you have already built, and completely bring them into your world, transforming their perspective. Return to set, girls are all on board now, and over the course of the production one of the actresses gets so close with you and there is such heavy chemistry that half the guys who talk to you after watching the course ask you if she is your girlfriend; meanwhile the female and both actresses become fans and start talking about how they are paying attention to everything now, it is all super interesting, and they will be using this themselves. Later on have one of these women call you up to meet you one-on-one when she has just had a major spat with her boyfriend, and who very clearly appears to be making herself available to you, and who later comments on how unusual it was you instead just counseling her on her relationship since "I was very vulnerable; I would've thought most guys would've tried to sleep with me there" (cool chick, and sexy, but I was not going to blow up a working relationship for a bit of tail!).

That would be some of my experience in terms of getting oneself to the position where one has some manner of star power, then taking women who are not already conscious of you and your star power and conveying it to them in a CONVINCING way.

Though again, personally, women behaving starstruck is just a very weird feeling.

It makes you feel somewhat (or a lot) objectified.

It makes you feel like everything else about you doesn't really matter and the girl is just into the 'status' she perceives you as having, which really if you were a slick liar could all just be lies (in fact, I had a compulsive liar friend who did just this; weaved a complete fake super high status lifestyle, educational background, career path, backstory, etc. for himself that was all a big fiction; nevertheless he was so good at it and so genuinely smooth and calibrated that everyone treated him like the super high status guy he made himself out to be).

You cannot just walk up to a girl and tell her, "I don't know if you know who I am but I'm kind of a big deal."

If she does not know who you are, she either needs to see a lot of high level people treating you with deference OR you need to take her through a complete grounding sequence so she understands who you are and where your 'star' comes from.

Anyway, now you know what it takes to engineer star power.

I would first start with becoming a star.

If you will do so in this niche, I would start by banging a bunch of chicks and getting really good.

Then see if you still care about star power after (hint: you won't).

(first bootcamp I ever took, the one instructor mentioned that the other instructor had been lead guitarist in a rock band that had become locally popular. At one point he'd been working to get his band to go national. Someone asked if he still played. "I did it for pussy," he said. "After learning to do this I don't really need it anymore." Everyone just laughed. As soon as you have a reliable skill set for getting quantity + quality pussy, you do not care about being famous anymore)

Chase
 

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Sure.

Step #1: take bootcamps with the most talented guys in the game, wing with a series of high count players and naturals, make ridiculous amounts of approaches, fail a lot, learn the ins and outs, shag a lot, date a bunch of out of your league girls.

Step #2: get active on the biggest seduction forums, do loads of field report breakdowns for other guys to train up your analytical skills and ability to add value, look to constantly draw insights and add to the conversation, become the #7 top-voted all-time poster on the largest global seduction forum and the most popular poster in your local seduction forum. Get guys to ask you to start a website.

Step #3: start a website and start regularly coaching guys to do what you do at the same time. Put tons of pressure on yourself to make sure your coaching clients get massive value out of their sessions with you. Discover that clients are almost always all missing the same series of steps, and that if you can teach these steps men will have significant upgrades in their game.

Step #4: integrate the lessons from your coaching into your teaching online, and use them plus the other stuff you have learned along the way as the basis for a book. Publish the book, keep publishing articles, get popular on Reddit, StumbleUpon, and other sites, end up being linked to all across the web on various forums, and begin pulling in hundreds of thousands of visitors per month, until you are the head of the highest trafficked, most popular men's dating advice blog on the planet. Accumulate hundreds, then thousands, of heart-warming testimonials from men about how you changed their lives, saved their lives, lifted them out of depression, got them approaching girls, gave them material that worked when nothing else did, were responsible for them meeting their girlfriend, fiancée, wife; have guys tell you they named their son after you because without you they'd never have met the mother.

Step #5: write a new video sales letter for one of your offers that includes many of these details in it. Head to the studio to record. Have the studio happen to have an attractive female assistant on-hand who overhears the entire story. Exit the studio after 2 hours of exhausting recording to find the female assistant starstruck and gushing about how incredible all that was and offering to drive you back into the city herself after she learns you took transit to get out of town, then have her hit on you the whole way back and not really want you to get out of her car.

Step #6: create another product, this one the most heavily researched and comprehensive program ever created on seduction. Spend 500 hours compiling it, researching it, making it as thorough as humanly possible. Then hire a film crew, fly to the film location, run casting calls with a series of actresses to screen for attractiveness + chemistry, start shooting. Slave drive the entire production, keeping everyone on-set 12-14 hours per day almost every single day for 2.5 weeks, finding every possible way you can to keep morale up and stave off burnout/exhaustion. A third of the way in get cornered on the balcony during a break between shooting by the female director and two actresses to be told that men don't need to learn this stuff, it is way too much information, it is just putting guys into their heads, that guys just need to follow their instincts. Respond to this by taking them through the entire thing: explain why it is so vital, explain the effects it has had on men and the scope of what you have already built, and completely bring them into your world, transforming their perspective. Return to set, girls are all on board now, and over the course of the production one of the actresses gets so close with you and there is such heavy chemistry that half the guys who talk to you after watching the course ask you if she is your girlfriend; meanwhile the female and both actresses become fans and start talking about how they are paying attention to everything now, it is all super interesting, and they will be using this themselves. Later on have one of these women call you up to meet you one-on-one when she has just had a major spat with her boyfriend, and who very clearly appears to be making herself available to you, and who later comments on how unusual it was you instead just counseling her on her relationship since "I was very vulnerable; I would've thought most guys would've tried to sleep with me there" (cool chick, and sexy, but I was not going to blow up a working relationship for a bit of tail!).

That would be some of my experience in terms of getting oneself to the position where one has some manner of star power, then taking women who are not already conscious of you and your star power and conveying it to them in a CONVINCING way.

Though again, personally, women behaving starstruck is just a very weird feeling.

It makes you feel somewhat (or a lot) objectified.

It makes you feel like everything else about you doesn't really matter and the girl is just into the 'status' she perceives you as having, which really if you were a slick liar could all just be lies (in fact, I had a compulsive liar friend who did just this; weaved a complete fake super high status lifestyle, educational background, career path, backstory, etc. for himself that was all a big fiction; nevertheless he was so good at it and so genuinely smooth and calibrated that everyone treated him like the super high status guy he made himself out to be).

You cannot just walk up to a girl and tell her, "I don't know if you know who I am but I'm kind of a big deal."

If she does not know who you are, she either needs to see a lot of high level people treating you with deference OR you need to take her through a complete grounding sequence so she understands who you are and where your 'star' comes from.

Anyway, now you know what it takes to engineer star power.

I would first start with becoming a star.

If you will do so in this niche, I would start by banging a bunch of chicks and getting really good.

Then see if you still care about star power after (hint: you won't).

(first bootcamp I ever took, the one instructor mentioned that the other instructor had been lead guitarist in a rock band that had become locally popular. At one point he'd been working to get his band to go national. Someone asked if he still played. "I did it for pussy," he said. "After learning to do this I don't really need it anymore." Everyone just laughed. As soon as you have a reliable skill set for getting quantity + quality pussy, you do not care about being famous anymore)

Chase
Fosho! That last one especially hits hard.

I did get into the modeling industry initially to try and land a model GF, but after seeing what models are actually like and focusing a lot more on improving my game in general I feel like it's just another cool thing going on in my life and I don't need it to land any girl (let alone a model, if I so choose).
 
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Meta frame your massive load as "putting the son of God in her" so she can mark the second coming




(....cumming?)
LoL

Virgin birth and all that, right? So she'll still be a virgin after she bangs you. Everything cool 😇
 
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