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enerdroyddubz

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I mean there is Hector's King of College, which I really enjoyed reading, though that is mostly applicable to younger men who are going through a university setting.

It's sorta tough because there's so many variables at play when it comes to "creating status", the major one being the person's actual identity. People generally achieve some level of status through pursuit of passions, becoming really good at something, and then entering a domain where their unique contributions are appreciated.

Even if that's just adding your fun, warm-spirited energy to a certain social circle or crowd, you still need to participate in the common ground that ties those people together (you need to actually run if you're gonna be the coolest motherfucker in running club).

There's probably a lot I could write on with navigating the nightlife industry and leveraging seduction and power dynamics in that realm, as someone who actually works in the industry.... but at this point I don't recommend that pursuit to anyone who's starting from scratch lol. It's not worth the squeeze compared to other avenues of building reputation / career / social standing.

Generally speaking, it's better to focus on being really fucking good at what you do (whatever that thing may be, for one's own personal reasons) and then letting status and respect come to you, rather than seek it out.
100%. Simlar thing with modeling and honestly I would not recommend any guy to get involved in that industry to get pussy. It isn't gonna be some easy way to dating models, you have to learn game as well as actually have an interest in fashion. Otherwise many of the experienced models will 100% know what's up especially since so many straight guys who aren't into fashion enter that industry just to try and fuck the girls, especially photographers. You'll just get used by people. Besides, you can 100% meet models doing daygame and it's much better, less time consuming, and far less expensive doing that anyways than trying to rise up the ranks of an industry you don't care about outside of the girls.
 

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You can easily date/bang models, it's not even that hard. Most aren't very smart so the actual smart ones are desperate for a man who they can have real conversations with, not just buy them drinks. And they are generally dirt poor so more receptive to being asked out for a night on the town.

It helps if you live in NYC or Miami or LA. Access is key as everyone has noted. When I first moved to NYC I was like you - how can I date the hottest girls in Manhattan? But my game was putrid. I met models at every bar and club but had little success, also due to not knowing a thing about fashion. Although you can find equally hot girls in Manhattan with real jobs/in school.

It was after grad school when I went back to Manhattan I started having success in Game. I have a good eye for colors I learned about men's and women's fashion as a hobby. As I got older I was able to pick up and then date two working models who walked in Fashion Week for famous names like CK, at very different times in my life.

Both were 9s without makeup, very tall of course -skinny fit- and incredibly smart. One was very sexual and kinky, def partly crazy, guys were intimidated by her height and beauty [and brains]. The other was a more girl-next-door type, a bit shorter, a bit more curves, and insanely great long hair [and brains].

I'd put either of them up against any famous A-list actress, no makeup, no special lighting. And they were both 21 when we met. One I got from daygame.

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My favorite NYC story: I was late 20s and invited to the party at a friend of a friend's apt in the W. Village, he was a florist from Brazil. A good friend invited me so I went, brought a bottle of wine. Arrive, nice apt but not huge or anything, my friend is talking to the host, introduces me, and I say 'Where do you want me to put the wine?'
They both get this little smile on their face and the host says just leave it in the kitchen would you?

So I go in there, and standing there talking to her 5 sisters is the young, very famous Giselle Bundchen. I was immediately tongue-tied and awkward, had to drop the bottle on the table and leave the room. My alltime fave beauty and I couldn't even say hello properly.

Two of her sisters were hotter than she was. Not a joke.

tl/dr;

1) Location, location, location. I've spent half my life in Miami and NYC. Go to where the hotties live.

2) If you haven't mastered the fundamentals, you don't have anything. Even if you get access somehow you will crash and burn.

3) The hottest celeb you can think of might just have hotter family members/friends you've never seen or heard of yet. Why not figure out how to date them? Get all of the benefits of celeb fame with none of the hassle.
 

enerdroyddubz

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You can easily date/bang models, it's not even that hard. Most aren't very smart so the actual smart ones are desperate for a man who they can have real conversations with, not just buy them drinks. And they are generally dirt poor so more receptive to being asked out for a night on the town.

It helps if you live in NYC or Miami or LA. Access is key as everyone has noted. When I first moved to NYC I was like you - how can I date the hottest girls in Manhattan? But my game was putrid. I met models at every bar and club but had little success, also due to not knowing a thing about fashion. Although you can find equally hot girls in Manhattan with real jobs/in school.

It was after grad school when I went back to Manhattan I started having success in Game. I have a good eye for colors I learned about men's and women's fashion as a hobby. As I got older I was able to pick up and then date two working models who walked in Fashion Week for famous names like CK, at very different times in my life.

Both were 9s without makeup, very tall of course -skinny fit- and incredibly smart. One was very sexual and kinky, def partly crazy, guys were intimidated by her height and beauty [and brains]. The other was a more girl-next-door type, a bit shorter, a bit more curves, and insanely great long hair [and brains].

I'd put either of them up against any famous A-list actress, no makeup, no special lighting. And they were both 21 when we met. One I got from daygame.

****

My favorite NYC story: I was late 20s and invited to the party at a friend of a friend's apt in the W. Village, he was a florist from Brazil. A good friend invited me so I went, brought a bottle of wine. Arrive, nice apt but not huge or anything, my friend is talking to the host, introduces me, and I say 'Where do you want me to put the wine?'
They both get this little smile on their face and the host says just leave it in the kitchen would you?

So I go in there, and standing there talking to her 5 sisters is the young, very famous Giselle Bundchen. I was immediately tongue-tied and awkward, had to drop the bottle on the table and leave the room. My alltime fave beauty and I couldn't even say hello properly.

Two of her sisters were hotter than she was. Not a joke.

tl/dr;

1) Location, location, location. I've spent half my life in Miami and NYC. Go to where the hotties live.

2) If you haven't mastered the fundamentals, you don't have anything. Even if you get access somehow you will crash and burn.

3) The hottest celeb you can think of might just have hotter family members/friends you've never seen or heard of yet. Why not figure out how to date them? Get all of the benefits of celeb fame with none of the hassle.
Agree. Models are often very approachable and easy to get dates with, provided you have game. You don't even have to learn about fashion or even get involved in the industry to date them tho, you can meet them through cold approach especially around agencies and trendy areas. I ended up working in the industry but I've found it just increases your chances of meeting them, not necessarily dating them.

You missed Chicago on that list, which has the 4th largest modeling industry in the US behind NY, LA and Miami. Tons of runway shows, parties and events, and high end agencies here. You do have to "break into the scene" more if you wanna meet a lot of models here but you can also meet them during the day in areas like River North, West Loop etc. Chicago's scene is easier to break into compared to other big cities as it's not a tradtional "go to" city for modeling & acting unlike NY/LA/Miami.
 
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