The Ladykiller Chronicles

[Kvothe]

A failure of an approach day today. Voice was bad, with bad vibe contributing to the girls not stopping when I opened, or just straight up not listening.

So I ended up practicing my walk for two hours.

This video gave some useful tips on proper walk form: youtube.com/watch?v=-fD2TSL2s7I specifically the note about using your glutes to push, instead of from the frontal part of your legs.

I also think I want to try and emulate the walk of Noah Mills. youtube.com/watch?v=asSv1HTaV5Y

I think beginning by fixing my walk to use the correct muscles will be the first step, then focusing on reducing hip sway, followed by focus on arm movement.

 

[Kvothe]

Thursday Night Update:

A strange night overall. Went out with friends who were visiting, and focused on trying to approach while with friends who are not in PUA. Some level of success. I opened two girls, one of whom tried very hard to get me to buy them drinks. I tried to be more challenging to them regarding this, and was trying to angle for them to do something for me, but couldn't stay sharp enough to do so. They were also here for a bachelorette party, which meant pulling would have been difficult.

Second girl was married.

At the end of the night, I walked out of an elevator and just struck a pose. A trans girl saw me and came up to me and complimented me like there was no tomorrow, then asked me to grab their ass. Not really knowing an impolite way to decline, I went and fondled their ass.

A strange night indeed.

 

[Kvothe]

Friday Night Update:

LR-- - Closer to Home

From Friday night last week. The night is young, and full of opportunities. The week has been long, and extremely lady-free. I've been hosting friends for a month, my apartment becoming more and more filthy and cluttered. Yet we have to find our opportunities where they lie. For the first...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[Kvothe]

Went out today with the goal of approaching three girls, but was only able to do two real approaches. Was suffering from some extra AA, most likely due to not having done day game approaches in a while. Luckily my macro-momentum is still high, which is giving me a strong baseline.

Both approaches were bad, though the second one had some lessons. I opened with the "who you look like" opener, but the celebrity I gave seems to have been far more attractive than the girl perceived herself to be, causing her to basically autoreject, or perhaps think I was just saying it as a line. Perhaps I need a wider set of celebrities to choose from to avoid this kind of knee-jerk reminder.

Did TRE yesterday and today, with focus on trying to move the tremors up my body. I'm having limited success with this, though TRE still helps. I can feel tension in my body when I approach, specifically in my neck and shoulders ever so slightly tightening up.

My walk is improving, and it's becoming more natural to move my legs via my glutes, which has resulted in a better walking stamina. I don't feel as fatigued towards the end of my daygame session, which would normally result in my dragging my legs as the evening wore on.

It's supposed to rain tomorrow, so will focus on trying to go through another Riker section now that I've had some success using basic linking in the field.

 

[Kvothe]

The month of sporadic approaching is almost over. Had people with me all of August, and family stuff this past weekend, extending to the end of this week. Should be free to game in more earnest after that.

Did 3 approaches today. None worth discussing in any real way. Voice was still timid, though I'll chalk that up to fear. Need to just get that momentum going again and we'll see improvement.

One of my common frustrations when failing to approach is that I don't think of a celebrity that a girl looks like, so I'll avoid the approach. I need a way around this. Part of me wants to incorporate some level of direct game into street approaches, though I won't do that until the baseline causes of my low hook rate are fixed, as by the point those go back to better levels, I won't feel the urge to switch back to direct at all.

 

[Kvothe]

Did a lot of approaches yesterday night. Wore an eye-catching blazer on all black everything else.

I hooked 6/7 girls I talked to over the night, which was fantastic. But unfortunately I wasn't the right level of sexual to take advantage of the good hook rate. But right now getting the approaches in is a solid move as nightgame has been difficult and scary.

One girl I saw was French, and she was relatively alone on the roof. But she wasn't as attractive, with a slight belly, but she seemed like she'd be open and it wouldn't have hurt to approach. I saw her later in the elevator, and talked to her as she was trying to figure out where to go next. I tried getting her to come, but was a mixture of too eager, and just uncalibrated to her situation.

Other approach worth writing about was a girl I approached closer to the end of the night. I opened, and tried to move her, but she refused. By coincidence, I barely heard, so just stopped and looked at her wordlessly, and she changed her mind and agreed to move with me. Interestingly, the silence and eye contact did all the work that was required.

 

[Kvothe]

Saturday approaches were generally good, though I couldn't hook very hard on the girls I was truly interested in.

My new jacket received a huge number fo compliments, an amazing change, and one I will surely come to enjoy. Peacocking in a stylish manner seems like such an easy way to build easy hooks and have a better shot of having positive knee-jerks.

My notes from the night are as follows:

• I was too energetic, responding to compliments in a overly excited, unsmooth way. In the future, I should be calmer, more confident, and pull a girl into me as they give a compliment
• Focus on being slower, deeper, and bringing out the sexuality within the self
• Having too much fun, but not approaching on opportunities. I have to be better about this.
• Reality pacing calibration was probably off. Need to think more on the state a girl is in at the moment I talk, and when trying to pace on the quality of the night so far.
• Hooking slowed down/I need better social frame when approaching groups in order to allow the girl (and her friends) to become isolated with me
• Work on isolation in a more charming manner

 

[Kvothe]

Sunday:

Only one real approach yesterday. It was the first. Main improvement was on being low awareness radius, though I didn't approach as fast as I should have. It was solid, though my words felt more repetitive than normal. The girl hugged me at the end, but didn't respond to my texts. I'm getting really annoyed by my lack of dates from phone numbers, and need to figure out what's causing an issue. Maybe qualifying is off? Maybe there's some latent issue going on.

I'm going to start documenting the approaches more in depth again, and focus on writing up a report after each approach that hooks, so that I can better figure out what's going wrong. The fact that I've gotten 26 numbers without a single converted date is bad, and if I fix it, I can just imagine how much sex I could have.

 

[Kvothe]

Useful videos for my woeful phone number -> date ratio:

youtube.com/watch?v=UY7PE_qFdY0

I think this above video really demonstrates the issue I'm currently having and why my direct approaches led to more dates, even though my approach -> number ratio was much lower. The missing element is premise/intent. However, when I was approaching direct, I was losing out somewhat through giving my power away more, though by using screening game, I was allowing myself to reach more girls and thus still get dates.

Now that I approach indirect, I've lost the element of premise/intent that direct game gives, and so I never really get to the point where a girl will logically view me as worth going out with over a friend. So the key I need to focus on to improve that is to add better premise to my approaches.

youtube.com/watch?v=A1Mwr1pDusQ

A good video on what premise is. Seems like the best way to set it is to increase the subtlety of compliments and to add in push-pull style flirting.

youtube.com/watch?v=o_k55geMKkU

Good way of showing push-pull off of simple statements to set premise more subtly

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I'm planning to go out harder once this weekend is over. I just finished a fairly difficult physical/mental challenge so I plan to use this weekend to recover from that.

 

[Kvothe]

2 approaches today, 2 numbers.

First one was a seated bench set. I open situationally regarding something going on at the park. Go through a lot of good topics while keeping it light. At the same time, I made sure to add certain comments that made the interaction more man-to-woman (as Todd V suggests). This is part of setting a better premise, so that I get a better number -> date ratio.

Second approach was more fast. I had to be a little more direct, as the girl was in a rush, so I really just had time to give a comparison to an actress, then quickly trade numbers. I don't expect it to pan out, but got the number.

First approach I was able to practice using easy linking as well as linking gestures.

 

[Kvothe]

Bad approach day today, though I met up with SamuraiJack for a bit. Main issue I had was a bad meta-frame, combined with high degree of approach anxiety.

Was able to go through the 3 approaches I had set for myself though. Continuing my home-based theory watching on opening. Focuses to improve are to keep a positive vibe by assuming the positive, and to focus on keeping the meta frame strong as well. I notice myself constantly glancing around as I walk, which is not what a person of high value would do. I have to focus on maintaining that frame and being congruent to it.

There was one very cute girl that I opened stationary with an observation that began as intrigue bait. I should have transitioned that into a reality pace, mentioning how "Have you ever noticed, you're walking by someplace you've walked a hundred times before... and suddenly, you notice this bright set of new colors, warm, excited sounds, and exotic, fresh smells to the point you just notice your curiosity... become aroused?"

 

[Kvothe]

Another bad day of approaching.

Serious cases of AA and inability to just pull the trigger. Will do more TRE and try to have mass approaching days on Friday/Saturday.

 

[foggy]

hey man, sorry to hear about AA rearing its ugly monster head for you lately. hopefully you can get that under control with your TRE and mass approach plan.

The girl hugged me at the end, but didn't respond to my texts.

Based on your recent field reports, you seem to be adept at stimulation and arousal, so I would say this advice from Bacchus in Lofty's journal could apply for the girl who hugged you but didn't reply to your texts:

My last piece advice for you today is about phone numbers. Yes they can be tricky. Because the only aspect of your interaction. . . that will determine her response. . . or lack thereof. . . to your ice-breaker text is social frame. It won't matter how turned on she was when you met. Or how well you managed to mesmerize her.

Strong emotions and even sexual arousal are the effects of transient states of mind. And like I mentioned before when I was talking about balancing the 3 keys, if you bring her into these transient states. . . without adequate social frame you will create internal conflict. That's no good when taking phone numbers. Because odds are her arousal levels and potent feelings will have faded considerably. . . by the time she sees your text while sitting at home or wherever. In this context you're mostly working with her analytical mind.

This advice could also apply to your lack of dates from phone numbers that you mentioned here....especially if you can confirm they are not replying to you at all, rather than replying then eventually going cold on you [it wasn't clear to me in your post].

If all this ends up being true, my suggestion to get past this sticking point would be to.... revisit and rebuild your strategy for building social frame. I'd be more than happy to help with that btw I've nailed down some routines that are consistently building me a fortress of social frame in daygame and nightgame lately and would love to share!

 

[Beam]

I've nailed down some routines that are consistently building me a fortress of social frame in daygame and nightgame lately and would love to share!

I'd love to hear these as well!

 

[Kvothe]

This advice could also apply to your lack of dates from phone numbers that you mentioned here....especially if you can confirm they are not replying to you at all, rather than replying then eventually going cold on you [it wasn't clear to me in your post].

If all this ends up being true, my suggestion to get past this sticking point would be to.... revisit and rebuild your strategy for building social frame. I'd be more than happy to help with that btw I've nailed down some routines that are consistently building me a fortress of social frame in daygame and nightgame lately and would love to share!

As always, help is always welcome and very appreciated, hopefully others will find it useful as well. Though my own thoughts have been that the issue is related to sexual frame as opposed to social frame-at least with regards to girls not replying to my initial message. This is part of the reason I think my direct game days led to more dates, as the frame of man-to-women is set on the first few words, though you lose out on your own power. Hence my desire to switch to indirect, but resulting in a loss of that man-to-woman sexual frame. Curious on your thoughts here as well.

A large percentage never respond to the first text at all, of those that do, they have tended to go cold after.

Let me outline my texting guide that I've followed so far.

I used to start off with this as an ice-breaker/name giving text (sent about 45 minutes after number grab):

Me: Great meeting you/running into you today X!
-Kvothe

And after looking at how Todd V texts (after receiving information from a wing that my texts appear needy), switched to this (same time interval):

Me: Hey X it's Kvothe

Since I usually day game in the evenings, I would send another message the next day, usually around 10:30-11AM, with some question/follow up based on whatever we had talked about the evening before. For Friday/Saturday number grabs, I would usually text on Sunday evening, to avoid seeming like I'm not busy on a Friday or Saturday.

This is when I have stopped receiving replies, usually the text is of the form:

Me: Hey/Morning X, how did <Y thing we had talked about> go yesterday?

And an attempt at something witty/funny to follow up the question to make it seem slightly less boring than a simple question.

After this, the plan would be to get a response, and then either transition that into a date invite, or go with another question that would allow for a transition to a date invite.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

 

[Kvothe]

Friday night went out with a wing. Main focus last few days has been to approach. I actually approached some actual stunners. My issue unfortunately was prematurely ejecting out of the set.

There were two absolutely gorgeous girls, I opened (perhaps not as well of a topic) situationally regarding them leaving what looked like a massive party area (I should have challenged a little more as party poopers or not being able to handle to intensity of that party scene). It would have been funny, and could have led to me inviting them to join my wing and I for drinks.

I also opened two Israeli girls and hooked them to some degree, though we weren't able to get the ball rolling past a certain point and ejected from there.

Best set of the night was a Russian girl I opened around 2AM while waiting in line for the last venue of the night. She has two other friends, one girl, one guy. The one I'm interested in gives me a huge number of shit tests, and I continuously agree and exaggerate, and she starts warming up more to me. But we get inside the bar and she disappears to get a drink. I do run into her a bit later, but for some reason, I reject to her warm and smiling face to me. I think I noticed my wing not in the set and wanted to stay with him. One lesson is that I need to seize the opportunity, especially when the iron is hot. There was an empty table I knew about, and it would have been so easy to move her there and start working on isolation.

Last real set was as I was walking down back home. A cute girl in stilleto boots with the thinnest heels I've seen. Very cute. I open, and she comes very close to me, and I try to get her to join me for a pizza, but she refuses, though she stays warm. Throughout the interaction, she is trying to call a cab. I do distract her for a bit, but then I make a mistake by making my intent too clear, and she becomes much less compliant. She actually tells me when I tell her that I know a better place to grab a cab nearby, "Is it close to your apartment?" I was honestly just too direct here. I didn't have good immersion, nor social or emotional frame to pull it off. Though the positive is that I tried to pull.

Goals for next outings will be to remain calibrated while staying in set and trying to push the interaction as far as possible.

 

[Kvothe]

Saturday I decided to do a mass approaching day to work on AA.

I ended up doing 11 approaches. I set a timer for myself-every 5 minutes, I'd have to do one approach. I need to build my approaching muscle, so while I tried to make quality good, I stayed focused on quantity. I may continue this for the next week or two of approaching to make the approach muscle more instinctive.

The main thing of note was that I had an insta-date with a very cute young-Lindsey Lohan looking girl. I sat on a bench next to her, and opened indirectly using an RPO for her reading a book near the sound of the fountain, and the sight of flowers nearby. On a high point, I suggest she come with me to grab a coffee, and she agrees. We grab the coffee, and then sit at a different park nearby. We're next to each other, and I go through some different emo-stim gambits and visualizations with her. She is quite young, but she also does most of the talking, leaving me to mostly chime in and try to remain high value. Throughout the interaction, I could feel myself becoming aroused from the conversation, which I realize is not a good metric of how sexual an interaction is. I should focus more on the girl's eye contact-is it prolonged? Short? What direction is she breaking eye contact in? Pupil dilation? Breathing? These are all signs I should pay attention to that are better than focusing on my own biomarkers. She does mention she has a boyfriend, very briefly in an offhand comment regarding another story she is telling. I grabbed the number fairly early on in the interaction, and suggested we should see an art gallery together. She has responded to my messages, which I'll write below to give some examples to texts I am doing and to potentially get feedback on that. My main comments on the date were that sexual topics were discussed, but I'm not sure the girl herself ever became aroused or viewed the interaction through that lens.

Saturday
Me: (On insta-date) Kvothe
Me: (2 hours post insta-date @ 5PM): Were you able to get any studying done before dinner?
Her: (@9:19PM): Unfortunately I did not
Her: (@9:19PM): But I did walk around a lot and it was great

Sunday
Me: (@4:50PM): An excellent way to whet the appetite
Me: (@4:50PM): So "present you" was left to take care of all the chores "past you" ignored today haha?
Her: (@5:35PM): yeah ig (I guess) but I got some stuff done today
Me: (@6:43PM): Wish I could say the same... sleep deprivation is a killer lol

No response to that yet today, but I'll try to reopen later in the week with something along these lines (assuming she doesn't go for the bait of asking me about the sleep deprivation reasons.

Me: I was walking and saw something intriguing that reminded me of you...

And then after she responds send her a pic of a statue/sculpture that I see in the city.

 

[Kvothe]

Currently sick...

Was able to almost get insta date girl from Saturday out, then I had to flake on her. Blegh.

 

[Kvothe]

Went out with the goal of approaching yesterday, but was ultimately incapable of doing so. AA was extremely strong. Have done TRE these last three days, so will continue going out, with a focus on doing a few days of mass approaching to build up the go for it muscle.

Today, only did one approach worth mentioning.

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#1

I'm wearing light blue jeans with a white linen shirt, and black zipper chelseas. I notice a girl standing outside one of my favorite bars, one that I'm considering going into. I walk over, and look into the bar's lobby, there are signs saying it's closed for a private event. I stand, take out my phone, and pretend to look over it.

The girl is dressed in light pants, and a tight fitting top. Blonde, very attractive.

I open with a question, "Do you know how the vibe is here on Tuesdays?" and transition it into something more, intending to pace the feeling of want to go somewhere and not having it occur, but it's very uncalibrated, and does not come off as smooth. Then it's a large amount of small talk, and very boring and uninteresting.

I think a better option here, would have been to start with interest bait.

Me: Do you know what I find... fascinating (slowly turn head to her on the last word)
Her: No, what?
Me: Have you ever noticed... how as the days get shorter, and it becomes dark faster... that the energy in the city... is almost amplified? As if the people are fighting to keep the dark... and gloom, at bay
Her: That's true, I think
Me: The way you say that... makes me think you... might not be from around here (said with a rueful/playful tonality)
Her: No haha, I'm from San Francisco
Me: I get that vibe from you... You actually seem to pay attention to the things... and the people... that intrigue you. A lot of people, once they've lived somewhere for a while, lose this sense of wonder that traveling can give you. Does that make sense?

Already we can see how much more interesting, and intriguing I could have made myself. I look amazing right now, fitter than ever, and more toned than before (though I still have ways to go in building my physique).

Despite my non-stellar opening, and conversation, I could see her shift her positioning to give me more attention, and her pupils were quite dilated as we talked.

While I do beat myself up over this, I need to remain positive and note that my biggest issue after a break is AA, and that in this case, doing approaches and building that momentum is important, so I have to view this as a victory in and of itself.

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Instadate girl with a boyfriend has been texting me with fairly high amounts of investment/excitement, and hopefully I will meet her tomorrow.

 

[Kvothe]

2 approaches today.

Still AA, and bad vibe/voice, but feeling more social engagement levels. I need to project my voice more confidently, and keep in mind the meta-frame of me being the prize. Additionally I've noted some bad habits.

I move my head around too much while walking. I also spend too much time deliberating on who to compare a person to. To the first issue, I need to drill into me that I must keep my head straight and still, and as soon as I go to move my head-THAT'S when I have to open. No hesitation, no pauses. Just a wry smile and an intriguing opener. I've also started researching more actresses, so that I don't have to think so much. I'm hoping to build the spectrum of female faces so that I can knowingly apply an actress to a person without needing to spend so much time thinking.

I also wait far too long before opening. I need to be crisper and faster when in this situation in order to make it smoother and more natural.

Voice projection the issue is timidity holding me back. I need to be fully, 100%, unashamed and unabashed.