The Ladykiller Chronicles

[Kvothe]

Had a date earlier in the week. Main issues were that I completely lost the frame early on, and that she resisted sex talk heavily-constantly changing subjects, leaving my threads half hanging. Largely an issue with my leading. Will write up a FR to go deeper.

Last night I went out and did approaches. My state was complete trash-my state control is really atrocious, and I definitely need to be more resilient and be able to handle criticism from people who don't matter in the grand scheme of things. In terms of women, I'm still getting girls' attention, but immersion is hard. Additionally, I don't think my conversations are really "fun", which in nightgame is just not good enough to solidify the hook and move to isolation. I need to "naturalize" a bit, while at the same time bring in more male-to-female hooking techniques to bring back some sexuality. At the moment, there is no sexual tension that I can feel being generated, just totally platonic.

In terms of fixing this, there are multiple things:

• Sexual kung fu (ejaculation fine-only goal is to remove needing porn to complete)
• Picturing the conquest throughout an interaction to inject sexuality
• Cut out screens - my brain is just getting too foggy from work/extracurricular screen that free time screens just really need to be excised

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

Love the real talk, brother. Are you doing warmup sets to help with state control? I struggled with state control for months recently and I found nothing but warmup sets really fixes it (unless I'm out with a wing, that helps too but is exceedingly rare these days).

 

[Kvothe]

Love the real talk, brother. Are you doing warmup sets to help with state control? I struggled with state control for months recently and I found nothing but warmup sets really fixes it (unless I'm out with a wing, that helps too but is exceedingly rare these days).

+1 nothing but warm up sets helps me. Meditation/TRE are good at preventing state issues, and making my momentum last longer, but for me, I've noticed that getting rejected is the best way to get in state. The issue is that I hate getting rejected at the main venue bc of social proof. I really need to start incorporating a bit of day game into my Friday/Saturday stack. I'm trying to get a bit of a cheat since I'm taking a creative, highly social type of class in the afternoon on Friday.

I'm actually going to make a goal to do solo nightgame for the next few weeks. I think I'm using wings as a handicap and avoiding approaching, instead of having it be a fun time for everyone.

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Just went out and got rejected 6 times, mostly due to vibe. My voice tonality and pattern interrupting were god awful, but I was expecting that. On the plus, today had the most approaches I've done in a while, so I just need to keep that up, keep building up momentum elsewhere, and things will go well. Thankfully I think my vibe comes back quickly, and rejection makes me feel more allowed to make mistakes (usually), rather than causing me to get disheartened. And I'm having an easier time doing the first approach of the day, so that's also good.

 

[Kvothe]

5 or 6 approaches today. Got all the girls to stop, but ejected too quickly from some. Main issue is working on the transition from attention/initial banter -> investment from her (immersion). My openers are getting better, listing some below for record keeping:

Me: Has anyone ever told you you have the vibe of the most elegant undercover private investigator?

Me: I noticed you have this vibe of like an adorable tourist, but with this edge that says "don't fuck around with me"

Me: Has anyone ever told you that you have the most elegantly delicate walk? I feel like you're the sort of person who probably pays a lot of attention to the small details

Got one number off a moderately cute girl. Tried to insta-date as well, but not free. She's in town until Saturday, and might be free on Friday for drinks. Would be very easy to pull off if I can get her out.

 

[Kvothe]

Was in full high social momentum mode yesterday. Albeit some of it was likely alcohol, I think other part was all me. I was in a set with two sisters for a bit, and it was a fun conversation over a lot of sexual stuff. One of the sisters was being very flirty with me, and asked me for my number. Older and not from here, and visiting to celebrate her sister's divorce, so I doubt it can go anywhere with her on this trip while she's here. She bought me a drink though. The girls were also giving me a lot more "freak" tests, but I think I did better with them this time.

Another set opened up and was fully immersing three different 21 year old girls. They also bought me a drink.

Later opened up a set of norwegians. Managed to isolate the group, but my group game needs work.

Part of the issue is that I was too social, and never made the switch to sexual. I need to work on qualifying a girl in a group, and using that to build the sexual vibe between me and a girl in a group, then use that to move the group a few times, and then isolate the girl. That's what teevs has warned me is one of the risks of high social momentum. So it's something to play around with more next week, and calibrate. The other negative was alcohol based I think. I had too much, and started becoming uncalibrated in my verbals, being more rambunctious, but also obnoxious. Need to dial that down as well.

Still, a very fun night-I really enjoyed solo, and think I'm going to continue with it for a while, since this was a lot of fun for me.

The girl from the previous FU texted me and has been texting me. She asked where I was and said she was out with her friends. I told her where I was and to come through. Honestly a bit happy about how low-key I was there. I think as I shift my vibe, my texting is also improving, as I personally just feel less invested in any single girl.

Also the sexual vibe is definitely coming back. Girls I open are getting much more touchy with me off the bat-but I'm running into a different issue with groups. I open a girl, before the group comes, and then I realize I'm much more into a different girl in the group and want to switch. Obviously no girl is going to like that. So I think that's partly why things didn't progress much for me either. Two solutions I see: either just stick with the first girl that's opened, or open from a group directly, so I know which person I want to go for.

I still like this feeling of this weekend. PU was really fun for the first time in a while. It helped me remember what I love about everything.

 

[Kvothe]

Little bit of a strange sticking point here. Had a coaching session with Teevs and we talked about one issue I'm having with group theory-namely actually making up my mind about what girl to go for. This is damaging because in a group, if you don't pick a girl, you aren't going to get stuff going, and can confuse the girls so much that they leave.

This pussyfooting needs to be rectified. Last night I went out with some friends and opened a two set. Midway through, I got talking to the friend, realized I was more attracted to the friend, but that the girl I was originally talking to was the far more likely and high probability chance girl to take home. Because I switched, I lost the girl, and the girl I switched to was too drunk and I had to leave the set. I need to be more strategic about this, and make the best move, which is not always to go for the girl I'm most attracted to (especially when multiple girls are attractive enough). On the bright side, my stupidity let my roommate have a fun time with the first girl.

Not a rookie mistake, but a mistake I'm making frequently. I hate making the same mistakes over and over again. Now that it's written down, I won't make it again.

 

[Skills]

Little bit of a strange sticking point here. Had a coaching session with Teevs and we talked about one issue I'm having with group theory-namely actually making up my mind about what girl to go for. This is damaging because in a group, if you don't pick a girl, you aren't going to get stuff going, and can confuse the girls so much that they leave.

This pussyfooting needs to be rectified. Last night I went out with some friends and opened a two set. Midway through, I got talking to the friend, realized I was more attracted to the friend, but that the girl I was originally talking to was the far more likely and high probability chance girl to take home. Because I switched, I lost the girl, and the girl I switched to was too drunk and I had to leave the set. I need to be more strategic about this, and make the best move, which is not always to go for the girl I'm most attracted to (especially when multiple girls are attractive enough). On the bright side, my stupidity let my roommate have a fun time with the first girl.

Not a rookie mistake, but a mistake I'm making frequently. I hate making the same mistakes over and over again. Now that it's written down, I won't make it again.

yeah if you switch sometimes you girl go into auto rejection "second choice left over"... I hate when this happens, best thing is to be ambiguous/neutral and gauge reactions, sometime the less hot is more aggressive and animated to compensate for competing with hotter girl...

 

[Kvothe]

In this case I just didn't register that the hotter one was too drunk. Had she not been maybe I could have pulled it off? The other issue was going to a crowded dance floor which just completely overwhelmed me sensorially.

 

[Kvothe]

There was a man who used to pray to god every day to let him win the lottery. Every day he prayed. Then he started praying twice a day... then three times... then four times. He continued this for years, until finally, God finally lost it and yelled, "All right, I'll give it to you, but go and fucking buy a lottery ticket!"

It's a bit of a shame to live in this city and have AA hit. I skip approaching the most beautiful women until I feel that I have some momentum. Like every time, I need to be okay with failing.

Had an approach today with a cute girl, I also flubbed that by not following the basics. The only good thing is that I went for the insta date. But I didn't move her, I didn't qualify, I didn't get her hooked. That was not good game, that was a numbers game, and I don't want to luck into having a girl in bed.

Must be better.

 

[Kvothe]

Some quick notes to expand on later. Missed an easy pull opportunity due to bad strategy call. Moved a girl who I was deep in set from a very calm atmosphere to a very hectic one. Bad call. Also my bladder is an issue bc I need to pee often.

Also got an interesting test while discussing the three kinds of people you meet: creeps, fast friends, and lovers. She asked which of the three she fit into. I should have said that she seems like the kind of girl who could fit into option 3, and then provide some opportunities for her to qualify herself to me. Instead I hid my opinion, which didn't fail the test, but didn't pass it either.

 

[Skills]

Some quick notes to expand on later. Missed an easy pull opportunity due to bad strategy call. Moved a girl who I was deep in set from a very calm atmosphere to a very hectic one. Bad call. Also my bladder is an issue bc I need to pee often.

Also got an interesting test while discussing the three kinds of people you meet: creeps, fast friends, and lovers. She asked which of the three she fit into. I should have said that she seems like the kind of girl who could fit into option 3, and then provide some opportunities for her to qualify herself to me. Instead I hid my opinion, which didn't fail the test, but didn't pass it either.

uhm i like that the 3 types of people, yeah i would have say uhmmm not sure, look her up and down and say i see you as future lover not sure yet... But i like that fluff i can see it working i will field test...

 

[Kvothe]

uhm i like that the 3 types of people, yeah i would have say uhmmm not sure, look her up and down and say i see you as future lover not sure yet... But i like that fluff i can see it working i will field test...

to clarify I don't explicitly say lover, more like:

Me: Have you ever noticed that when you meet someone it can go in so many different ways? They might be super creepy and all over you <pointing away>, or you just know that you're going to be fast friends... And sometimes, you just feel this vibe with someone, where it's exciting and stimulating, and you just want to explore that. And the more you explore, the more excited and passionate you feel. It's wonderful to be able to experience these things with people.

I didn't make up the above, I'm pretty sure it's from Bacchus, but not entirely sure. It works well when I use it though and is a staple thing I do to seed a man vs woman frame in an interaction.

 

[Skills]

to clarify I don't explicitly say lover, more like:


I didn't make up the above, I'm pretty sure it's from Bacchus, but not entirely sure. It works well when I use it though and is a staple thing I do to seed a man vs woman frame in an interaction.

I like it the other simple way...

 

[Kvothe]

Super great approach week so far.

Monday 5 approaches/3 numbers-all 3 numbers were gorgeous girls.

Tuesday 2 approaches/1 number.

Today had a date from Tuesday girl, led to a pull + lay. Will write up a LR.

 

[Kvothe]

5 approaches with skippy yday. 3 numbers, but only one seems likely to pan out. Ultimately I really need to start doing a warm up set, as most approaches after that become much more smooth. I'm bummed because the first girl yesterday gave me an AI, and was what I would consider extremely attractive.

 

[Kvothe]

Don't really want to write up the FR-main note, be very careful if doing highly verbal escalation patterns on girls with whom there is a language barrier.

Had a date with a very attractive 22 year old french girl, but there were two issues. One, the sex talk fell extremely flat because she just couldn't understand the points I was trying to hit. The second, her step brother was staying with her while she was traveling and they were in the same hotel room, so any pull would have required dealing with that.

 

[Skills]

Don't really want to write up the FR-main note, be very careful if doing highly verbal escalation patterns on girls with whom there is a language barrier.

Had a date with a very attractive 22 year old french girl, but there were two issues. One, the sex talk fell extremely flat because she just couldn't understand the points I was trying to hit. The second, her step brother was staying with her while she was traveling and they were in the same hotel room, so any pull would have required dealing with that.

Yes it happened to me

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[Conquistador]

The second, her step brother was staying with her while she was traveling and they were in the same hotel room

That’s kinda weird ngl

 

[Kvothe]

16 approaches last two days. My only goal is to redevelop that killer instinct. Direct, indirect, I truly don't care right now.

Did one indirect yday that led to a number, but will need a wing since girl is here with a friend traveling, so may try to get some Saturday night shenanigans going. One direct yday that also was a number. Very beautiful girl to me.

 

[Kvothe]

5 approaches today, most off of instinct. I think another week of social terrorism should give me enough of a foundation to start dialing it back and focusing more on making the approaches hook.

Night time had an instadate that the girl came with me, quickly drank her drink, said she was going to the bathroom, and then she left without saying bye. I was surprised because she didn't seem like the type, and because I hadn't done anything I thought was uncalibrated (or if I did nothing that would do that). My current guess is that she might have been a bad apple, or maybe the social frame needed to be improved.

Meta-frame continues to be a point of improvement I need to work on. Partially will get solved when AA disappears into the background and I can add more fun into the approaches. Part needs meditation and inner work to fix, and part just needs affirmation and visualizing right before the approach.

Current struggles:
Meta-frame
Approach anxiety
Hook game