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Kvothe

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1 approach today, very cold. Need to increase that.

Tomorrow will be going out at night
 

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Kvothe

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Did 1 approach in the morning-it was shitty, and I was in workout clothes.

Planned to go out tonight, so ate lunch early, and dinner early. Took a nap from 6-7:30, then took a dump, brushed/flossed/mouthwash and headed out. I decided to explore my neighborhood. Went to a dive bar, and sat around for about 20 minutes. I noticed one girl eyeballing me, but I wasn't too attracted. I went and drank a few cups of water, while still not talking to anyone. Eventually, I ended up standing next to the girl who had looked at me, and I opened her, and she was absolutely stoked to talk to me. Was very surprised. She was incredibly touchy with me from the beginning. The only issue was that the conversations we were having were not exciting. She was actually 30, and she was very surprised when she found out my age. She also completely dominated the conversation, in the sense that I didn't have to ask many questions, she would just talk. The only issue, is we got to talking about work, and that's just a really bad conversation to have-specifically because she was going on and on about what she did. I tried getting her to talk more about how she felt, but she kind of just steamrolled over me (she had done adderall right before, and was mildly drunk, so I'm assigning the blame for her talking so much and not listening to that). She had a friend who would show up intermittently and then leave us alone. At one point that friend called this girl over, and then the girl told me to come with her and sit with her. She was really touchy with me while sitting down and touched my leg, I asked her to show me her jewelry and she basically gave my her hand. At some point after she finished her drink, I told her we should head somewhere else, and she said she was feeling tired and was going to go home. I asked her what her favorite drink was, then told her I was a bartender, then suggested we should go grab a nightcap at my place instead. She declined, so I ejected a few minutes later. As I left she pulled me in for a cheek kiss.

I approached another girl a little later. She was from Florida and was a makeup artist. We bantered a little bit, and there's a decent amount of incidental touch from her, and she's being kind of touchy with me, and she asked me what my last name was. Then she asked me to spell it out, so I did. I then teased her saying, "you're definitely going to stalk me tomorrow, like who was that really cute guy I was talking to", and she was like, "yeah, sure lol". But then after, she closes herself off and talks to her friends, while closing off the circle to me. I think the issue there is while I was setting the chase frame, I put my elbow on her shoulder and leaned on her, and since her friends were there, she might have been trying to save face, since it may have been too much. I'm not entirely sure. Next time I should go for compliance by moving her.

I felt warmed up by that point, so I figured I'd check out some other bars. I walked around for 30 minutes, going into and out of places, but none of them were particularly good. They either didn't have many girls, had too loud music, or were emptyish. I started walking back to the original place, and walked further past. Walked into a new place and it was kind of more crowded. I go inside, use the restroom, and then walk back outwards. This one girl makes eye contact with me, and I say hi, and make a situational observation. I talk for a second, but her friend pulls her away since they are calling an uber out. There aren't really any other girls available for me to open, except for one sitting on a stool surrounded by friends, with no easy way to get to her, so I decide to head out. As I head out, I hear the girl's voice call my name. I look back and she's asking why I'm leaving. I talk to her a bit, and she's also being really touchy. I ask her whether I can tempt her with coming and grabbing a drink somewhere nearby with me, and she looks really tempted, but decides to stay with her friend, who was right next to her the entire time. But she tells me that I should take her number and that she would love to grab drinks this week. To be honest, she was not very attractive, but I'd have been down for tonight, so I don't think I'll reach out. Plus I get really solid leads from daygame from really fucking attractive girls, so I don't mind giving up a girl elsewhere, which I guess is a mild form of abundance lol.

Overall, I got some really solid feedback on my look, and it seems like girls really dig me. To improve further, I have to start talking to more girls at night while out, going for more attractive girls, figuring out how to approach groups, and making interactions more stimulating and exciting.
 
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Did 1 approach in the morning-it was shitty, and I was in workout clothes.

Planned to go out tonight, so ate lunch early, and dinner early. Took a nap from 6-7:30, then took a dump, brushed/flossed/mouthwash and headed out. I decided to explore my neighborhood. Went to a dive bar, and sat around for about 20 minutes. I noticed one girl eyeballing me, but I wasn't too attracted. I went and drank a few cups of water, while still not talking to anyone. Eventually, I ended up standing next to the girl who had looked at me, and I opened her, and she was absolutely stoked to talk to me. Was very surprised. She was incredibly touchy with me from the beginning. The only issue was that the conversations we were having were not exciting. She was actually 30, and she was very surprised when she found out my age. She also completely dominated the conversation, in the sense that I didn't have to ask many questions, she would just talk. The only issue, is we got to talking about work, and that's just a really bad conversation to have-specifically because she was going on and on about what she did. I tried getting her to talk more about how she felt, but she kind of just steamrolled over me (she had done adderall right before, and was mildly drunk, so I'm assigning the blame for her talking so much and not listening to that). She had a friend who would show up intermittently and then leave us alone. At one point that friend called this girl over, and then the girl told me to come with her and sit with her. She was really touchy with me while sitting down and touched my leg, I asked her to show me her jewelry and she basically gave my her hand. At some point after she finished her drink, I told her we should head somewhere else, and she said she was feeling tired and was going to go home. I asked her what her favorite drink was, then told her I was a bartender, then suggested we should go grab a nightcap at my place instead. She declined, so I ejected a few minutes later. As I left she pulled me in for a cheek kiss.

I approached another girl a little later. She was from Florida and was a makeup artist. We bantered a little bit, and there's a decent amount of incidental touch from her, and she's being kind of touchy with me, and she asked me what my last name was. Then she asked me to spell it out, so I did. I then teased her saying, "you're definitely going to stalk me tomorrow, like who was that really cute guy I was talking to", and she was like, "yeah, sure lol". But then after, she closes herself off and talks to her friends, while closing off the circle to me. I think the issue there is while I was setting the chase frame, I put my elbow on her shoulder and leaned on her, and since her friends were there, she might have been trying to save face, since it may have been too much. I'm not entirely sure. Next time I should go for compliance by moving her.

I felt warmed up by that point, so I figured I'd check out some other bars. I walked around for 30 minutes, going into and out of places, but none of them were particularly good. They either didn't have many girls, had too loud music, or were emptyish. I started walking back to the original place, and walked further past. Walked into a new place and it was kind of more crowded. I go inside, use the restroom, and then walk back outwards. This one girl makes eye contact with me, and I say hi, and make a situational observation. I talk for a second, but her friend pulls her away since they are calling an uber out. There aren't really any other girls available for me to open, except for one sitting on a stool surrounded by friends, with no easy way to get to her, so I decide to head out. As I head out, I hear the girl's voice call my name. I look back and she's asking why I'm leaving. I talk to her a bit, and she's also being really touchy. I ask her whether I can tempt her with coming and grabbing a drink somewhere nearby with me, and she looks really tempted, but decides to stay with her friend, who was right next to her the entire time. But she tells me that I should take her number and that she would love to grab drinks this week. To be honest, she was not very attractive, but I'd have been down for tonight, so I don't think I'll reach out. Plus I get really solid leads from daygame from really fucking attractive girls, so I don't mind giving up a girl elsewhere, which I guess is a mild form of abundance lol.

Overall, I got some really solid feedback on my look, and it seems like girls really dig me. To improve further, I have to start talking to more girls at night while out, going for more attractive girls, figuring out how to approach groups, and making interactions more stimulating and exciting.
You went out alone at night. That's great. I am petrified to do that. I just tried it once. Solo daygame is something I am slowly getting used to as I have two wings but our schedules don't match sometimes and I end up having to go out alone.
 

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At some point after she finished her drink, I told her we should head somewhere else, and she said she was feeling tired and was going to go home

"where do you live? Oh that's on the way to my place. we should split an uber" then while in the uber (while sexually escalating (75% -words/frames 25% - physically), "I gotta take a piss. You mind if I come up for a bit".

edit: what I'm saying is: make it easier for her to say yes. Here she's already decided she's going home. What you told her with your, "grab a nightcap at my place" is "nah fuck that. Come back to my place instead". Like why even try and persuade her here, when the goal is to get to a sex location. It happens (especially when they really feeling you), but you can't rely on girls going, "nah, but you can come back to my place for a drink". Just assume she'll be down with you coming over. After all, that is why she came out...
 
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Kvothe

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Been out of commission the last few weeks. Went out today in a nice outfit and noticed looks coming my way. Only did one approach though.
 

Kvothe

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2 approaches two days ago and 1 approach yesterday. Working off rust is a pain. It’s also hard building motivation when I know I’m going to be out of commission again for two weeks in a few days.
 

Kvothe

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Looking back on 2019, it’s been a great year for development. Towards the end, I started building true consistency with getting dates and was really enjoying it. I ended up with a FB for a brief spell.
This year I’ll focus on continuing that consistency while adding in night game at least twice a week. Continuing to build my sexualness will also be a goal. I also still to quit masturbating except for once a month.
 

Kvothe

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4 approaches today. First two were bad speaking volume and very timid. Third one was better and had an actual conversation. Last one was right as I was exiting the bus, and it was received well, but she seemed uninterested.

Things to work on: staying in the set, volume, and continuing to go for girls I'm interested in.
 

Kvothe

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Today was a solid day. Did 7 approaches and got 1 number.
First girl opened direct and we talked for a few. Was a warmup though. Second girl blew me off off the bat as she had a bf. Cute Colombian. I playfully laughed it off.
Third girl had a really stylish jacked and I just gave a genuine compliment. We talked for a bit, i was better in terms of not taking it too seriously, and did some joking around and banter, but not much sexuality I think.
Next few girls wouldn’t even talk to me. Then I walked up to an Asian girl and opened her. She was receptive and we talked a bit, I could have teased better when she said she was from LA. She had a boyfriend though so wasn’t good. Should try to playfully ask if there’s any chance I can steal her away next time.
After that a few more blow outs.
Overall really happy that I did the approaches quickly and decisively (for the most part). So I expect I’ll be able to start working on being more sexual soon.

Yearly total:
Approaches: 13
Numbers: 2
 

Kvothe

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Today wasn’t the best. Did 7 approaches, but none were good. I smiled, but was not very confident otherwise. Still rusty, but at least the approach anxiety is less. Need to work in presence when getting girls to stop and transitioning past the hookpoint.

Date tomorrow so will write up a FR after.
 

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Kvothe

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1 approach on Sunday and 1 today. Cold weather has been screwing with me.

Working out and counting calories going well. Will be going out this weekend.
 

Kvothe

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2 approaches yesterday. Neither hooked. Mostly bad vibe. Need to improve on that. First girl ran back around and stopped her. She was kind of odd, talking like we were in a meeting at an office. Second one was in a rush to go somewhere and wasn’t acting very interested. Need to be more dominant and imposing.

Yearly Totals:
Approaches: 24
Numbers: 2
Dates: 1
 

Kvothe

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4 approaches today. Positives were my style and posture. I also think I’ve started losing weight so body shape is improving.

First girl was near my apartment, went back and approached her. I should have taken more time to stop her and ground her. I also talked too quickly so I came across as not dominant.

Second girl was pretty similar. Approached down the side but didn’t get her to stop. She said thanks but quickly left. Again pretty sure it voice and presence.

Girl number 3 was basically the same. Hardly remember it which strikes me as me not being present and essentially being distracted. Need to stop thinking once I start talking.

Last girl I again got blown out from the get go.

Overall my approaches are not reaching the hook point recently, so that’s the first step to fix. Biggest things are voice and confidence. Once those start getting better, I think I’ll start seeing better results. I also want to focus more effort towards insights rather than observations. To that end I’m going to try and make my compliments more intriguing and witty.

2020 Totals:
Approaches: 28
Numbers: 2
Dates: 1
 
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Kvothe

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Went out solo last night and had some good experiences. Talked to 4 girls between 10:30 and 1:30 before heading back.

First girl I had finished up at the bathroom and she was behind not really doing anything. I hadn't talked to anyone that day, so I just asked her if she knew where I could get water (super lame but wasn't warmed up). She added some things back into the conversation so I kept it going. I did some deep diving, but I should have kept it lighter and more flirty. The bar was also super crowded so there was no place to sit, though I tried to find us a place. So I said we should just chill by the bathroom, saying, "it is after all the most romantic place in the bar", to which she agreed. I continued, "it'll be easy to see the sparks flying between us, though that could also just be the plumbing." Eh, not the best line, but first time being attempting to be flirty in a while so I'll give myself a pass. Eventually the conversation just went stale, and she turned to her bartender friend and cut me out of the conversation.

Went to another bar and had a short conversation with someone else. I was by the bar, and noticed her stroll beside me slightly separated from her group of friends, so I took it as an AI. There was a game of pool going on, and so I asked her who she had her money on, to which she laughed and said she had no idea who was even playing. Still not so good. A better opening might have been to say that, and then once she replied, to say, "wow, I thought we were about to begin an epic love adventure, but I'm not sure I could go through with it with someone who doesn't have a keen interest in the noble game of pool", said with a smile and a laugh. Even that's not too good, but it would add some spice and make it clearer that I'm interested in her. The other issue was that I think I was too energetic and coming across as bouncing off the wall with my thoughts. High energy is good, but it needs to be moderated to not come across as a joker.

Third girl I tried a playful non-verbal opener, but failed by not going all in on it. Stood next to her and assumed the same position, then she looked at me and looked away dismissively. I should have preopened her better and then made a little fun of how she looked bored. She was anyway heading out.

Last girl, I saw her friend leaving to use the bathroom and saddled over. I'm not sure who saw each other first, but when I moved she was already looking at me, and I opened by asking her if she "usually stands at the outskirt of the crowd longingly looking in", to which she said, "no". So I gave some other options which I can't remember. This conversation was easier and more flirty + fun. At one point I felt her coat, and told her that it was so soft, and that she must be a woman who enjoyed her comfort. She asked if I wanted to try it on, which I said yeah, then I traded jackets. Was decently mutually touchy here. I told her I was almost tempted to steal her jacket, and she said if I did she would chase me down, which I said sounded fun. I should have ramped it up wayyyy more by saying, "Wasn't that the plan anyway?" said with a strong sexy stare. A few minutes later, she sees her friend standing off near the bathroom, not coming back. So I ask if apparently I have the friends approval. This was a mistake, I should have said, "well if she's enjoying herself, let's just chill here and not worry about it", or something to the point of not needing the friend to come back, since it seemed like the friend was okay leaving this girl with me. Once the friend came back it was basically over, couldn't really talk with my girl, and the friend wasn't leaving.

Overall, not a bad night. With the last girl I felt some strong sexual energy between us which has been missing to me for a while. Going to go back out tonight and see how it goes again.
 

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On Saturday night went out with my roommate. He's not good with women, but he's good looking and he could get good if he tried.

At the first bar, I told him to open a girl, and then I joined the set (there were two girls). I introduced myself, and started talking to her. I found out she's norwegian, and cold read that she was in something creative. She's studying acting, so I make a joke about how she must be a movie star and must dislike hanging out with the dirty masses. She laughs and plays along (I should have used this moment to build an us vs. them mentality-making a joke about how I could be her movie producer or co-star and we could make fun of the masses together, and how tabloids would be coming to make rumors about us). Anyway, she asks what I do, and I tell her to guess. I think she guesses real estate; I've never gotten that before, so I asked why she thought that. She said it was because I was confident and put together. I think I responded slightly cockily here, but after talking to some more experienced people, I think the right move would have been to say something humble like, "thank you, you have a great heart." I asked her to sit next to me right where we were. At this point my roommates girl had gone to the bathroom, so my girl started looking for her, and was hesitant about sitting. This is where I screwed up, I should have persisted really hard to have the girl sit next to me, I would have been able to pull it off by telling her her friend would be back in a few minutes, and some yes ladders about how we're having fun talking to each other.

We went to another bar, and I did a situational opener that didn't go anywhere. Went to the next room, and this cute girl was ordering a drink. The room was absurdly hot, so I opened by asking whether she's enjoying the oven-like atmosphere (a more funny opener might have been, "How much do you feel like a muffin right now? Because it sure as fuck feels like we're in an over right now"). She responds, and I make fun of my opener as being an amazing way to say hello (mildly self-sarcastically). She laughs a lot more, and then I ask her about what she does. She's in fashion merchandising, and I ask her if she's the best merchandiser in the city. I ask her to sit with me, but she's with friends who are visiting from out of town, so I grab her number (spoiler, nothing came from the number).

We go to one last bar, and my roommate tells me a girl was eyeing me. I turn around, and she's sitting at the bar, and there's no easy way to get to her, we make eye contact though, so I have to cut through the crowd. I tell her that I thought she was fucking stunning, and she seemed really happy. Talked a bit, but she was with a big group of friends. She mentions that her night is almost over because she's very tired, and I ask her if there's any way I can keep her there (weak, but don't know how I could have gotten around the friends without any compliance). She heads out.

Overall, not the worst Saturday night. Had some good flirting, and I tried moving faster by trying to move girls. I also closed the space between us very well, so was clearly out of the polite zone. Will look to expand on it each week.
 

Kvothe

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Yesterday did a couple of approaches.

First one was a girl I saw coming out of an open house. I ran across the street and opened her from the side. I told her I thought she was fucking stunning. She seemed really into it, but she was from DC and leaving that night. I told her that was too bad since I wanted to grab drinks with her. She said we'd have to do it in DC, which I should have made into a more flirtatious item ("it's a date, we'll go undercover and explore all the dark and seedy places, it'll be so romantic" said with a wicked smile). My brain and mouth weren't well connected though so things were coming out kind of disjointed. But I was a strong distance away from her, and my voice was solid.

Next girl was a little later, she's wearing a multi-color plaid jacket. I run in front of her, and tell her she has a great sense of style, and that it takes a real eye to pull off what she was (my attempt to go more into insights instead of observations). She takes it well, and I talk to her a little bit and deep dive with her. In retrospect, I should have been lighter and more flirty rather than try to deep dive. Also less interview-y. I guessed that she must be in fashion, but she was in accounting. I didn't ask her to drinks but should have, she was quite attractive.

Had a girl in the middle who was dressed well, but way older than I expected.

Last girl was walking, and I opened her direct. Don't remember exactly what was said. But she sounded Australian, turns out she was American, but got asked if she was Australian all the time. She was carrying a book about history, and listening to a podcast on it. I correctly guessed what podcast it was, as I had listened to it before. She seemed impressed, and I told her she seemed like quite the history buff. I really disliked her talking style though, and didn't ask her out as a result. Should not have done that, could have had a date for this week.
 

Kvothe

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Today was bad. Did two approaches, and got blown off the bat on both. First one I just did a basic direct opener, couldn't think of anything particularly insightful. She said thanks, and I couldn't think of anything to say.

Second girl I stopped as she was coming out of a store. Told her she looked amazing, and she seemed happy, but in a real rush to get off. Should have walked with her or asked her to stop for a second.

New thing I should do before going out is to meditate and visualize the approaches. Will lead to a better vibe internally.

2020 Totals (3 weeks complete):
Approaches: 42
Numbers: 2
Dates: 1
 
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Kvothe

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Did 3 approaches last week, but had an awful vibe, and was feeling really low. Took a few days to rest and fix my mood.

Did 3 approaches yesterday, what was nice was that they hooked, though I got unlucky and the two that hooked best had boyfriends. The first interaction was good, and I teased her when I saw her grocery bag was from Whole Foods. I told her she looked like a Trader Joes kind of girl, and she laughed a lot. She asked why I thought that, maybe I could have been more flirty and said all the cute girls shop at Trader Joe's, but I just said that her vibe felt that way. I don't remember the second one as well, but she hooked decently. Last girl was okay, she seemed really surprised, and I didn't think she was single, so I didn't ask her out-rookie move. One thing I'm having trouble with is going for the kill, and just trying when I feel beat. I'm ditching harder sets because of fear, so need to improve that.

Today was decent. First girl I saw was dressed very fashionably, so I ran back around and told her she looked incredibly cute. She was pretty happy, and I closed the distance between us well. She says she's off to go drink at a place with $3 drinks, and was coming from something fashion week related. She's in fashion, but I don't think I understood what she did, she said she's an influencer on IG, so that's what she was doing. She had some castings and stuff tomorrow. She tells me I should follow her on IG, but I say that I was actually going to ask her if she wanted to grab drinks. She tries to get me to follow her, but I wave it off, and also I don't have IG on my phone, which I show her, and she gives me her number. I should have played it a little different, saying, "Haha, that might work on most guys, then you move on and leave them wallowing in despair" said with a wink. This could have set up a more flirtatious vibe, but I'm not entirely sure the best way to address this.

Second girl was walking fast, and I told her she looked very fashionable. She was in a huge rush, so I let her go, but should have asked her out. Last girl was also walking past, and I opened, but she had a boyfriend. I should have gone more detailed on the opener, but given the boyfriend, it wouldn't have mattered.

I'm more miffed that I'm not approaching the cute girls. I either get nervous over the crowd on the street, or my mind tricks me into thinking it's not worth it because she's not attractive enough. I really need to internalize the mentality of "if she were naked on my bed wanting me to fuck her, would I?" and if yes, then approach.

2020 Totals (5 weeks complete):
Approaches: 50
Numbers: 3
Dates: 1
 
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