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Been in a bit of a rut over the last two weeks. Haven't done much, just been thinking about how much shit I still have to do in life and it gets overwhelming, especially now I'm scarily close to 30 (when did that happen??) Got to pick myself up.
 

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Been in a bit of a rut over the last two weeks. Haven't done much, just been thinking about how much shit I still have to do in life and it gets overwhelming, especially now I'm scarily close to 30 (when did that happen??) Got to pick myself up.

What do you mean still have to do?

You have a good job?
You are saving to buy a house?

You want to get a girlfriend I guess
 

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What do you mean still have to do?

You have a good job?
You are saving to buy a house?

You want to get a girlfriend I guess

Girlfriend honestly right now the least of it. My job seems like a deadend and my salary has stagnated, I've barely saved money over the last couple of years and the prospect of owning a home I like feels increasingly out of reach while also being able to afford a decent lifestyle. And then the thought of a mortgage depresses me even though I want a house. One of the reasons the relationship failed is because she felt I wasn't sharing enough of my life with her. Reality is it's because I was ashamed by how lost I was and didn't want to let it on to her. Most of my time apart from her I spent trying to upskill/find something I'm good at to turn into another income stream. But I've spun my wheels and haven't gotten that far. I've been getting personal training right to push my body further than it ever has. I stagnated with that as well and feel I've been letting my PT down. And music - I spent a few months last year brushing off the piano again and started getting seriously good and others told me so. I desperately want to play but then the money situation started clawing at me and I wanted to focus more time on that. But don't have much to show for it and now my piano playing is where it was months ago. But I really want to get good - it's one of my few passions where I love it and I'm good at it and don't want to waste the potential I don't know what I want in life and was so consumed by this confusion that it definitely helped push her away. And then, yeah. Add pickup onto that now. Honestly my motivation for pickup is at an all time low, can't think of anything I want to do less right now. I know this will change. Just... in a rut.
 
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Girlfriend honestly right now the least of it. My job seems like a deadend and my salary has stagnated, I've barely saved money over the last couple of years and the prospect of owning a home I like feels increasingly out of reach while also being able to afford a decent lifestyle. And then the thought of a mortgage depresses me even though I want a house. One of the reasons the relationship failed is because she felt I wasn't sharing enough of my life with her. Reality is it's because I was ashamed by how lost I was and didn't want to let it on to her. Most of my time apart from her I spent trying to upskill/find something I'm good at to turn into another income stream. But I've spun my wheels and haven't gotten that far. I've been getting personal training right to push my body further than it ever has. I stagnated with that as well and feel I've been letting my PT down. And music - I spent a few months last year brushing off the piano again and started getting seriously good and others told me so. I desperately want to play but then the money situation started clawing at me and I wanted to focus more time on that. But don't have much to show for it and now my piano playing is where it was months ago. But I really want to get good - it's one of my few passions where I love it and I'm good at it and don't want to waste the potential I don't know what I want in life and was so consumed by this confusion that it definitely helped push her away. And then, yeah. Add pickup onto that now. Honestly my motivation for pickup is at an all time low, can't think of anything I want to do less right now. I know this will change. Just... in a rut.

Man that girl sounds high maintenance, you ever thought about tech?
 

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I desperately want to play but then the money situation started clawing at me and I wanted to focus more time on that. But don't have much to show for it and now my piano playing is where it was months ago. But I really want to get good - it's one of my few passions where I love it and I'm good at it and don't want to waste the potential I don't know what I want in life and was so consumed by this confusion that it definitely helped push her away.
I know how it is, it's really hard to make money with music, even if you're really "talented" (aka trained a lot and know your stuff). I'm also very passionate about music but at the moment is more like a side hobby, though I wish it would be my main thing (I do have a decent job in tech but I'm not sure I'm on the path I'll want to continue on).

IT/programming pays really well and it's "not that hard" to get into (meaning you don't necessarily need a degree, but you do need the knowledge/know how), but learning front end programming, aka how to make websites (the part the people see anyway) it's very doable, even if you don't know much about math, logic or programming, and it has some decent paying jobs. I know you're a smart guy so if you choose to go down this path I can see you being successful, and you can keep music as your side thing, because how knows, maybe you eventually "make it" (I know, for me, it would be hard to live without doing music, even as a side thing, to me that creative side is very important, and I love music).
 

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Have you tried JBP's Past and Future Authoring Program Beam?

It helped me get out of my rut in 2020 when my market collapsed due to the COVID hysteria. Even now I think I am mostly working to achieve the goals I set myself or the images I saw in my mind of what I wanted my ideal life to be. Very powerful stuff IMO.
 

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Girlfriend honestly right now the least of it. My job seems like a deadend and my salary has stagnated, I've barely saved money over the last couple of years and the prospect of owning a home I like feels increasingly out of reach while also being able to afford a decent lifestyle. And then the thought of a mortgage depresses me even though I want a house. One of the reasons the relationship failed is because she felt I wasn't sharing enough of my life with her. Reality is it's because I was ashamed by how lost I was and didn't want to let it on to her. Most of my time apart from her I spent trying to upskill/find something I'm good at to turn into another income stream. But I've spun my wheels and haven't gotten that far. I've been getting personal training right to push my body further than it ever has. I stagnated with that as well and feel I've been letting my PT down. And music - I spent a few months last year brushing off the piano again and started getting seriously good and others told me so. I desperately want to play but then the money situation started clawing at me and I wanted to focus more time on that. But don't have much to show for it and now my piano playing is where it was months ago. But I really want to get good - it's one of my few passions where I love it and I'm good at it and don't want to waste the potential I don't know what I want in life and was so consumed by this confusion that it definitely helped push her away. And then, yeah. Add pickup onto that now. Honestly my motivation for pickup is at an all time low, can't think of anything I want to do less right now. I know this will change. Just... in a rut.

I feel for you bro, but I think that woman was draining your energy. The break up was probably for the best because now you can fully focus on getting your life back on track rather than trying to appease a girl that can never be satisfied

Gotta put yourself first always, and if a girl is not willing to bend even just a little to keep you happy then she should kick rocks.
 

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Gotta put yourself first always, and if a girl is not willing to bend even just a little to keep you happy then she should kick rocks.
Agreed, the whole purpose of relationships should be to uplift or inspire you directly/indirectly. If the other person whether it be a friend, girlfriend or whatever, isn’t helping your situation mentally/physically or even worse taking away from it, then it isn’t worth it in my opinion.
 

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Hey guys, appreciate all the responses. Sorry for the late reply, timezones and work.

@climbingup, @Beck Bass - I'm actually in Engineering but the sector I'm in (manufacturing) I don't enjoy too much and it seems you have to slave away for the bare minimum when it comes to a raise. Software is where most of the money is, and I've been considering moving for a while.

IT/programming pays really well and it's "not that hard" to get into (meaning you don't necessarily need a degree, but you do need the knowledge/know how), but learning front end programming, aka how to make websites (the part the people see anyway) it's very doable, even if you don't know much about math, logic or programming, and it has some decent paying jobs. I know you're a smart guy so if you choose to go down this path I can see you being successful,

I actually do programming as a hobby, mainly small hacky stuff but have made some useful applications such as my own finance tracker. Not as much web dev though. And in most of my jobs (including my current one) I have done some programming which has been the most enjoyable and stimulating aspect by far.

The big leap is going from doing small scale stuff to actual applications. I can pivot my career in that direction and yeah, have been considering moving since the pay is significantly higher than what I am doing now, and it aligns with my inclinations. I do need to put a bunch of work in since essentially I will be entry level and competing with grads coming out of uni for the entry level jobs. I am expecting an initial pay cut but I'll have to just keep working and digging to find those opportunities.

and you can keep music as your side thing, because how knows, maybe you eventually "make it" (I know, for me, it would be hard to live without doing music, even as a side thing, to me that creative side is very important, and I love music).

Exactly, I will never feel complete if I don't utilize my love for music in some capacity!

@Bismarck
Have you tried JBP's Past and Future Authoring Program Beam?

It helped me get out of my rut in 2020 when my market collapsed due to the COVID hysteria. Even now I think I am mostly working to achieve the goals I set myself or the images I saw in my mind of what I wanted my ideal life to be. Very powerful stuff IMO.
Hmm, I have not, will have to check it out.

@TomInHo

I feel for you bro, but I think that woman was draining your energy. The break up was probably for the best because now you can fully focus on getting your life back on track rather than trying to appease a girl that can never be satisfied

Gotta put yourself first always, and if a girl is not willing to bend even just a little to keep you happy then she should kick rocks.

Appreciate you telling it straight man. Of course my emotions are still there, I still care for her and miss her (admittedly less so now as some time has passed). She showed sweet, feminine sides of herself many times and genuinely seemed like she wanted to be that way all the time, but found it difficult based on what happened to her. But you're right, it did start to feel exhausting having to constantly try reassuring her and there is some sense of relief in not having to do that anymore. And at the end she made statements about me that just flat out weren't true, when I had already addressed those issues (or so I thought) which annoyed me. So, I know that this is for the best as hard as it was.

@Rakeshell

Agreed, the whole purpose of relationships should be to uplift or inspire you directly/indirectly. If the other person whether it be a friend, girlfriend or whatever, isn’t helping your situation mentally/physically or even worse taking away from it, then it isn’t worth it in my opinion.

She was trying. But, she would try on some things and not budge on others. I don't know. It was confusing. I still need to write the full breakdown on what happened - it will make things clearer for me and everyone else.
 

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Sorry to hear it didn't work out!

Every experience reveals truths, some we want to know and others we don't. The difficult ones are the most important to learn, otherwise we have to learn them over and over again.

Check your arms and legs, squeeze your fists, get up and start moving.
 

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But you're right, it did start to feel exhausting having to constantly try reassuring her and there is some sense of relief in not having to do that anymore. And at the end she made statements about me that just flat out weren't true, when I had already addressed those issues (or so I thought) which annoyed me. So, I know that this is for the best as hard as it was.
My ex had some self steem issues and it sure took it's toll on me to be reassuring her all the time of how much I liked her and everything, not sure if it's similar, but I know how relationships can get drainy sometimes for this reason. She also made some statements in the end that were weird, but later she took back some of them, you can blame it on her ego trying to protect her now that you two are not a thing anymore, so in her head, she needs to kinda "kill" you, like get reasons to why you "suck", even if you don't, and specially if, and those don't need to be true as well.

Try not to stress too much about it and move forward, eventually you will feel good for having done the right thing, it just sucks now, ofc
 
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Appreciate you telling it straight man. Of course my emotions are still there, I still care for her and miss her (admittedly less so now as some time has passed). She showed sweet, feminine sides of herself many times and genuinely seemed like she wanted to be that way all the time, but found it difficult based on what happened to her. But you're right, it did start to feel exhausting having to constantly try reassuring her and there is some sense of relief in not having to do that anymore. And at the end she made statements about me that just flat out weren't true, when I had already addressed those issues (or so I thought) which annoyed me. So, I know that this is for the best as hard as it was.

IMO girls that are low self esteem are best kept in the fuck buddy or low end MLTR category. Girls that are your main should give you energy, not take it away from you.

These are lessons we all have to learn at some point and it's not our responsibility to work super hard to make a girl happy. Her insecurities are her insecurities and she should go see a therapist or something to take care of that shit.

You'll see. Once you get back in the groove and start laying new girls again you meet ones that will work hard to make you happy not the other way around, and then you'll wonder what the hell you saw in the last girl anyways

Also, If you ended things on good terms and go radio silent, don't be surprised if she comes back. But if she does don't make the same mistake of giving her a relationship because her actions have proven her unworthy
 

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Hey man as you say, you're in a rut and eventually the motivation will come back to you! Just wondering if you're similar to me in where you have the issue of having too many things you try to work on at once, constantly flicking through different projects and then not getting much done in the end? I'm currently working on focusing on fewer things at a time, maybe it's something you could benefit from as well?
 

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Hey man as you say, you're in a rut and eventually the motivation will come back to you! Just wondering if you're similar to me in where you have the issue of having too many things you try to work on at once, constantly flicking through different projects and then not getting much done in the end? I'm currently working on focusing on fewer things at a time, maybe it's something you could benefit from as well?
Hey man, definitely something I have trouble with. Am getting a better handle on things but always open to hearing new strategies!
 

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Took a while but I've written the breakdown of what happened here.

Haven't been as active over the last couple weeks but I haven't been idle. Have been working on getting back to my 2021 level fundamentals (getting close, the gut is noticeably smaller). Have pushed for a raise at work while continuing to upskill. Got cold called by a recruiter for a software role really close to where I live - we'll see how that goes.

Seduction wise, after a couple of weeks of not wanting to do anything I have started approaching again. But with shitty numbers (like once a week). Most approaches have been awkward, except for the last one (this tall blonde stripper chick) but which I don't see going anywhere as she has been slow to respond. I seem to have retained the general structure of how the interaction should run from open to close from a verbal perspective, but my body language is projecting scarcity.

I also have a new housemate whose night game is tight. Dude will literally bring home a new girl every week. Have gone out with him a couple of times, girls that reject me welcome him. It's been both demoralizing but also inspiring. Demoralizing because who wants to be rejected, especially when you see them so open to your mate. But inspiring because it's not that he's better looking than me per se, but he has confidence and an impeccable fashion sense that is just a step above mine. I've already started upgrading my fashion again based on what I have seen.

Not all is rosy though. I've been struggling with an addiction to jerking off constantly. Going to nothing after having sex multiple times per week for the last 8 months has been tough. It has been affecting my motivation to go out. I realize how damaging it is. Goal is to cut down to once a week like I used to.
 

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I also have a new housemate whose night game is tight. Dude will literally bring home a new girl every week. Have gone out with him a couple of times, girls that reject me welcome him. It's been both demoralizing but also inspiring. Demoralizing because who wants to be rejected, especially when you see them so open to your mate. But inspiring because it's not that he's better looking than me per se, but he has confidence and an impeccable fashion sense that is just a step above mine. I've already started upgrading my fashion again based on what I have seen.
A new wing can be great, it seems this guy will push you to excel, I'm hopeful for you!

Not all is rosy though. I've been struggling with an addiction to jerking off constantly. Going to nothing after having sex multiple times per week for the last 8 months has been tough. It has been affecting my motivation to go out. I realize how damaging it is. Goal is to cut down to once a week like I used to.
Yeah I myself have a bit of a problem of wanking too much, though lately very few things are able to get me horny (mostly just my girl and new hot girls). Hope you can manage that, it's a bit of a touchy topic, like how much you last depends on your last ejaculation, and I myself like lasting a lot, but masturbation messes up with your testosterone and that can mess up a bunch of other things. Finding balance in that is an important part of life as a male, I feel like (I've been trying to not do it so much anymore for my girl, but now that she's travelling it's tough lol).
 

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Yeah I myself have a bit of a problem of wanking too much, though lately very few things are able to get me horny (mostly just my girl and new hot girls). Hope you can manage that, it's a bit of a touchy topic, like how much you last depends on your last ejaculation, and I myself like lasting a lot, but masturbation messes up with your testosterone and that can mess up a bunch of other things. Finding balance in that is an important part of life as a male, I feel like (I've been trying to not do it so much anymore for my girl, but now that she's travelling it's tough lol).

How often do you generally do it?
 

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Pretty productive today. Sunny out - 2 approaches. One in supermarket, she had a boyfriend but seemed genuinely flattered and told me if she was single she would have. One outside, super cute doctor. Strong attraction, her full attention to me and closing the gap physically. Verbally faltered at times and should have gone for an instant date (but may not have worked that well since I needed to get my car before it got towed). Number closed, will see how it goes.

Still avoiding approaching particular types - the super done up hot ones. Even though I want to. Find it way easier to talk to the unassuming but still beautiful ones.

Edit: No response to the icebreaker, damn! Thought that was a strong one. Should have gone for the insta date
 
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Bro could you give us some pointers on how you approach - like what you use as openers and what you stack with post-opener?

IIRC you were saying something like: "Has anyone ever told you you have a great sense of style?" am I correct?
 

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How often do you generally do it?
I used to do it almost every night lol, helped me sleep, but lately I've been so busy I don't need much of anything to sleep, so maybe each 2, 3 days, depends (if I'm seeing my girl often I won't even do it).
I'm kinda sick atm so I managed to get one out this morning, makes my mind feel like I'm not tooo sick you know hehe
 
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