Mah journal (bgwh)

[bgwh]

Had to run down and grab something from another store.

For the first time I realized that it's "not true that I don't have AA", because I didn't feel that same "ability to open anything that moves" as I saw the 2-sets walking about.

1) I saw a set of 3 chicks (a mom pushing a stroller, and two chicks which were probably not moms). One of them was really fucking hot to me. REALLY hot for some reason.

I opened the mom, situationally. Then she really got excited. And I ejected, completely forgetting that the only reason I opened the mom was as a way to get into the group. Like I genuinely only understand this now that I'm back home. I could have switched to my actual target instead of ejecting. WTF.

2) I sat down on a bench nearby... Saw some younger chicks walking towards where I'm sitting, one of which had a unique style going. I kind of said awkwardly (not loudly enough, "that's cool").

They passed me, this time I said a bit louder "Hey" pointing at the girl with the unique style... "That's cool". She said "Thanks".

New barriers broken. 987 to go.

 

[Higher]

Feels weird to have this much confidence.

Yeah, with all its ups and downs it feels like a superpower to me. Like something im not supposed to have.

Something my 38yo self would have never believed in when i started this journey - and sometimes i still find it weird 4 years later.

Good journal!

 

[JT Sunshine]

I have an approach addiction, if I'm out, I have to approach any hot chick I see.

Since I have a ton of work, but had to grab groceries, I purposefully went out very early morning when no hot chicks are around. Because last time I went to grab groceries I ended up wasting an hour before coming back to work, because I just had to approach anything hot that moves.

Anyway, this "go out super early so you don't see any hotties" worked, I didn't see anything above a 4. Basically the reason I don't have an AA is that I somehow adopted the principle in my mind that unless I would reject sex with a girl, she must be opened.

But then walking to the last store of my journey, I unfortunately saw some chick which barely passed the fuckability threshold (35ish, might have been a 7 when she was young). I was like fuck, I must open. So I open her. Not from here. So I start talking in english, but her english was very poor. Nothing noteworthy except how funny I found it that I have zero AA. Feels weird to have this much confidence.

I felt that addiction today. After my first two I was like “fuck, I just want to keep approaching more” even though I had to go back to work.

Really enjoying your journal man

 

[bgwh]

Yeah, with all its ups and downs it feels like a superpower to me. Like something im not supposed to have.

Something my 38yo self would have never believed in when i started this journey - and sometimes i still find it weird 4 years later.

Good journal!

That's a great way to describe it. Like a forbidden power we're not supposed to have. And in truth, we're not imaging it. Society really would prefer we didn't have this power. Just watched some owen cook videos where he discusses this.

 

[bgwh]

Really enjoying your journal man

Thank you, likewise.

 

[bgwh]

Ok, this is pretty weird... My life is weird. So I had some stuff I had to purchase urgently, and so I was praying I wouldn't see anyone attractive... I'm literally praying there are no people outside because I have no AA, and everyone hooks and wants to chat with me forever.

1) However in the first store, the main sales guy followed me out of the store, and started telling me his entire life story, started qualifying himself to me, and started showing me people on instagram and telling me who I should follow, and tell them he sent me to them. Like influential guys, hot girls. Feels surreal man, no idea what's happening. This lasted about 30 minutes since I wanted to be nice

2) Entered second store. Saw a model-looking chick trying out eyewear next to the checkout. I was contemplating whether to go back and open. But she joins me in checkout line. I open her, asking has she ever consider xyz. Upclose she's far from a model. I mean tall and skinny, but the face and the teeth make her like a 7 at best. She answers "oh maybe theheh". I give her information. Kinda bummed out about her not being that hot upclose, but I continue the routine just coz I opened.

3) Then, next, the cashier wouldn't let me go for 10 minutes. I ejected earlier, but I felt like she was going to keep me there for 30 minutes as well.

4) Saw some chicks... Both were rocker chicks. One was a 7, the other one was my perfect 10, think skinny escort type that dresses like an only fans goth model or something. She was wearing a transparent see through mesh top showing off her perfect body.

I am kind of tired to write the fr... Only two things I'm going to mention now. Might edit later to fill in more details.

a) She mentioned how she works in a casino. And I'm not surprised. I think in my country every 10 works in a casino. So when she says she works in a casino I go "oooooooh... I'm not gonna say, i'm not gonna say it". She bursts out laughing. "I have a friend, and he was telling me stuff about girls who works in casinos... but I'm not gonna say it, hahahah".... She laughs "Well, yeah, some girls are like that, yah hhehhehe".

b) So I really had to rush back home and start working, and these girls hooked so deeply, they would have had a conversation with me all day, so I had to cut it short. So I'm like anyway you guys are really cool, we should trade socials. The 7 goes "I don't use any socials". The 10 goes "Why don't you take my number, we can do stuff". I go (facepalm guys): "Oh I don't use a phone". Anyway, she added me on insta, and I'm here typing this.

She was my ideal dream 10... hahah. Oh well. She's still on my insta.

985 to go

 

[bgwh]

Just an observation. I think at this point, my next goal should be to "stop auto rejecting". Kind of like with that last set yesterday where she went "Why don't I give you my number, and we can do stuff sometime", and I go "I don't use the phone" (facepalm). At this point my main thing is just auto-rejection. Either ejecting our auto-rejecting from sets that are deeply hooked and giving every hint that they would want me to escalate in some way. Not saying they're sold on sex or anything, but they clearly want me to escalate in some way, even if it's just an instadate or whatever.

 

[bgwh]

I'm considering not journaling on this forum any longer. I joined because I was under the impression it would be a supportive environment to catalog experiments and growth experiences. Everything turns into a fight, and people trying to convince you to do things their way, or telling you that what you're doing isn't real.

The latest drop in the bucket was that stoic guy misrepresenting my most well intended post in a thread. Namely it was some guy saying that cold approach is the most difficult thing. And I merely said that sometimes it takes a mental flip that makes it a lot easier.

INSTEAD OF TAKING THE POSITIVE, this was used to attack me and how my opinion doesn't count and is "misleading" because I'm not doing "real approaches", so my "approach anxiety" wasn't real, since nobody would have approach anxiety with my "too easy to count" method.

Point is that without those mental switches, it was 100x more difficult to do what I do (even if what I do is too easy to qualify as "real approaching"). The concept I mentioned still applies if you're a "real man" doing "real approaches".

He also lied that I only approached asking people about activity xyz, which is a lie. I use a variety of indirect openers, including my recent expansion into situational openers, and continually expanding my repertoire. I was going to have a blast sharing what I'm trying out and how I'm expanding, sharing ideas...

But then, I'm justifying myself, for having the time of my life, but it's not "in the approved way". What a buzzkill and state killer.

 

[bgwh]

I'm considering not journaling on this forum any longer. I joined because I was under the impression it would be a supportive environment to catalog experiments and growth experiences. Everything turns into a fight, and people trying to convince you to do things their way, or telling you that what you're doing isn't real.

The latest drop in the bucket was that stoic guy misrepresenting my most well intended post in a thread.

I'm going to continue journaling because I get benefits out of it, and there were a couple of supportive, open minded and cool guys (also running journals) where we can exchange ideas on openers and sticking points and stuff. I'll just have to not open the rest of the forum.

- Did one yesterday
- Did two today

982 to go

 

[JT Sunshine]

I'm considering not journaling on this forum any longer. I joined because I was under the impression it would be a supportive environment to catalog experiments and growth experiences. Everything turns into a fight, and people trying to convince you to do things their way, or telling you that what you're doing isn't real.

The latest drop in the bucket was that stoic guy misrepresenting my most well intended post in a thread. Namely it was some guy saying that cold approach is the most difficult thing. And I merely said that sometimes it takes a mental flip that makes it a lot easier.

INSTEAD OF TAKING THE POSITIVE, this was used to attack me and how my opinion doesn't count and is "misleading" because I'm not doing "real approaches", so my "approach anxiety" wasn't real, since nobody would have approach anxiety with my "too easy to count" method.

Point is that without those mental switches, it was 100x more difficult to do what I do (even if what I do is too easy to qualify as "real approaching"). The concept I mentioned still applies if you're a "real man" doing "real approaches".

He also lied that I only approached asking people about activity xyz, which is a lie. I use a variety of indirect openers, including my recent expansion into situational openers, and continually expanding my repertoire. I was going to have a blast sharing what I'm trying out and how I'm expanding, sharing ideas...

But then, I'm justifying myself, for having the time of my life, but it's not "in the approved way". What a buzzkill and state killer.

I’ve quite enjoyed reading your journal man. You’re out here talking to real women - so yeah, those are real approaches

Keep doing you brother

 

[bgwh]

So I'm going to continue journaling with more detail, including the failures to approach. I don't care what anyone on this forum thinks, or if it's "real pickup", or "real approaches". Not here to impress anyone. I'm here to journal for my own growth, the journaling helps a lot.

I'm about building the social skills, mastering the nonverbals, and getting some leads for social circle in the process. I don't care if it doesn't make me as cool as a guy "doing pickup", so anyone wanting to comment anything in that direction, kindly F-off in advance.

Lesson learned the other day about hellos
- One of the girls I approached the other day was with a hello. She stopped. But I had a "reason" other than saying hello in my back pocket. That proves it's all in the nonverbals. When I typically do hellos just for the sake of saying hellos, they act confused and don't say anything. In this case I had something to follow it up with. But she stopped on the hello, looked me directly in the eyes, and said hello. Cute 19 year old waitress from nearby cafe. Anyway I followed it up with my reason for talking to her, which is xyz activity (Yes I know this makes me uncool on this forum, and nothing I do counts and I'm not a real man yadda, yadda, kindly f-off).

Grocery chats today
- Some chick (35ish, but was probably hot in her 20s). She asks if she can cut in line as she only has one product. I go of course. I ask her if she happens to be into something artistic. She chuckle like hahah couldn't be anything further from that. Turns out she's in IT. We chat a bit about the future of development and if AI is going to disrupt the industry. She wasn't my type so I let her go once done. [Does this count m-fuckers? or am I still not a real man, and must hit on her in the opener?]

- Also chatted with the cashier. I'm not counting it against my 1000 goal, but I am counting it towards my overall goal of developing my social skills. This isn't a pickup journal, it's a social skills journal.

Opportunities not taken (considering taking Owen Cook's advice on some of these)

1) A chick (35-ish) was after me in line after I checked out. I was considering opening her with something situational. But I was like "but wait she's too old". But then she was dressed like an escort (not that hot, and genuinely wouldn't bang her, but a large percentage of guys would see her as the hot chick).

Considering the fact that I'm practicing social skills, I should maybe take Owen Cook's advice about opening everyone, because the moment you start putting filters like "not hot enough, too old", you destroy your momentum

Chicks past the fence

2) I noticed two hotties to the left (where you enter the supermarket, behind the entry fence). I didn't open them. But I was watching videos from Owen opening chicks standing on the fence, and vocally projecting at girls sitting inside a cafe. And he was like "Most guys wouldn't open like this, but you can". So I'm definetely doing that next time. They weren't that far from the fence. They would have heard my opener even if I stood on the fence and went "HEY" to get their attention

3) I started walking back home, passing a café. In it I noticed the girl I had hello-ed the other day holding a tray and serving people. Ok then, she's a waitress. I then noticed two hotties sitting right there at the fence area, talking in a very animated way. I was like "But they're sitting at the fence". Totally a non issue. Could have walked up. But stalled too much thinking about it. I kept glancing at the girls next to the cafe fence, then I glance at the waitress, and then started looking at me "and i'm like oh no, she'll think I'm a stalker, here's the guy who chatted my up on the street the other day, run"

All in all, I think Owen is correct in the "Don't judge, open everyone". Because I judge if a chick is not too old, or if its going to be akward opening on a fence. I doubt this will happen a second time though, this is the good news.

*-I still think it's fine to not open in full cafes, but this was early morning, cafe was empty, and it was just the 2 chicks at the fance and the waitress and nobody else.

981 to go

 

[bgwh]

Just had a breakthrough into my idealize feature

So my goal is to eventually get to the point where I can charmingly open all girls everywhere in a situational manner. And today I had opens that were very pretty much my ideal self.

1) Saw some 19 year olds leaving a popular cafe, and walking towards me. I stopped them and was like (Let me ask if they've ever been to club xyz as a fun experiment). So I go like "Hey guys, have you ever been to club xyz". The stop, hook, and smile and start engaging like "Nooo, why?". I'm like never mind, you looked like the kind of girls who do abc. They start giggling "No no we're not abc", I go "Hmmm, why not", then we bantered back and forth. These girls were easily nines.

I have no idea why everyone hooks so well from the younger stunners, but I'm enjoying it so much. It seems like they wanna converse forever, I'm always the one ejecting.

2) Saw a two-set of 30 year olds sitting. I started hesitating, and they noticed me... I was getting those thoughts like, oh no they noticed me, what are they gonna think. One seemed like she works out. Think the 30 year old fitness model type of look. So I go "fuck this shit, I'm in experimentation mode". So I go up to them and go "Are you guys foreigners or something"... they start giggling "No, we're local"... I then banter with them about it. I'm like daaamn I was looking at you and got confused, you like you're (other country girls) or something, so weird hahah.

The 30 year old had a suspicious energy the whole time. And by that I mean like she's suspicious of men. Not like the creeped out vibe, but more like jaded due to being dumped by a lot of players or something. I don't know if it even makes sense?

On that note, I'd love to bang 30 year olds, but they're so jaded. I know that if I got really good I could charm even the jaded 30 year olds, but I'm thinking why? There are some challenges that make me go "I need to tackle that challenge". Others are like "but why". I'd rather approach a 100 younger chicks to bang 1, then approach 10 jaded chicks to bang 1.

*-Of course I'm talking hypothetically, not saying those will be the numbers. Just that younger chicks are so much nicer, so much more enjoyable, sweeter, kinder. The 30 year olds are pools of jaded bitterness. The younger chicks always open and hook and are so much more pleasurable to open.

979 to go

 

[JT Sunshine]

Considering the fact that I'm practicing social skills, I should maybe take Owen Cook's advice about opening everyone, because the moment you start putting filters like "not hot enough, too old", you destroy your momentum

When I find myself in situations where I see a woman who isn’t quite hot enough, too old, etc, what I try to do is force eye contact, say hi, and judge the reaction. You can use this to make small tweaks to your body language or vocal inflection, then try again with the next one. The timing of eye contact, especially in situations where you’re walking toward each other, has always been very interesting to me. You don’t have to take it any further than that and personally I don’t feel it destroying my momentum as long as I say *something*… and try to learn something.

It’s my way of not making excuses, but also not wasting my time on a woman I’m really not interested in.

 

[bgwh]

When I find myself in situations where I see a woman who isn’t quite hot enough, too old, etc, what I try to do is force eye contact, say hi, and judge the reaction. You can use this to make small tweaks to your body language or vocal inflection, then try again with the next one. The timing of eye contact, especially in situations where you’re walking toward each other, has always been very interesting to me. You don’t have to take it any further than that and personally I don’t feel it destroying my momentum as long as I say *something*… and try to learn something.

It’s my way of not making excuses, but also not wasting my time on a woman I’m really not interested in.

Wow, that's pure gold and the perfect solution.

At this point do most chicks say hello back to you in these situations? Also do you do do this for girls out of your way, or just girls where you're walking towards each other?

 

[Higher]

*-Of course I'm talking hypothetically, not saying those will be the numbers. Just that younger chicks are so much nicer, so much more enjoyable, sweeter, kinder. The 30 year olds are pools of jaded bitterness. The younger chicks always open and hook and are so much more pleasurable to open.

Yeah, repeated failure / pain really jades most people. Some of them are also very risk-averse by nature and self-sabotage constantly (and theyre aware of this more often than not).

Its too bad, but we cant reach everyone.

 

[bgwh]

Life is good. Leveling up.

Had to run to market, again praying there are no hotties, because I've essentialy brainwashed myself that I'm not allowed to not open hotties.

- Walking toward the supermarket, noticed a hottie (22-24 year old HB8) one street behind me, coming my way. I checked her out and was like "dayuum you fine". I think she noticed and got a little excited, not sure. I promised myself I am only allowed to open chicks I don't have to run after when I'm doing chores. So I just slowed down so she can catch up to me. But she turned to another street. She was hot enough that I wanted to run up and open her, but I didn't because last time I allowed myself this I ended up not returning home for hours, and I got a ton of work I'm behind with. So only allowed to open chicks in my way

- Pass by a cafe, noticed a 20 year old HB8 staring at me like she had seen a celebrity. She was eyefucking me and had her mouth open and gasping, then as I looked at her and smiled, she got that cheeky flirty smile like "teheheh". I'm going to take this as a good sign that my energy/confidence has improved quite a lot. I do feel the increase, I almost feel rockstar-ish. Ironically she was sitting with a male-model looking 20 year old dude.

- Next I entered into the supermarket and chatted with like 3 people who aren't fuckable chicks, just for practicing social skills. I'm not counting these against my countdown, but they do count in my journey and goals otherwise, as I'm building social skills to network, make money and (also) get laid. VERY proud and happy with myself for these 3. I give myself an award, I'm awesome.

- Then walking out of the market I saw some university students. Approached them saying I'm putting together some events, and I'd love to see them there. Basically I asked them if they ever went to event xyz, one girl was on phone, the other just looked at me without answering. I then continued, coz we're putting some stuff up, it's great for college student, y'all students right. A little chat, then had to continue because I was loaded with super heavy bags full of 2 weeks of groceries.

- Then finally, saw some young and slutty HB6. You know the kind of girl who's not genuinelly beatiful, but she dresses like she's auditioning for a porn movie. It's the kind of girl that in a dark club would be deemed an eight, you know "club hot", and not real beauty... So I'm going "Ok, she's not hot enough to open, my rule for these girls is practice hellos" (Credit goes to @JT Sunshine, thanks man). I then go, perfect opportunity to practice nonverbals, again thanks goes out to JTS. So I'm like let's do this...

- I start slowing down
- I get a little bit of a like "james bondian smirk", don't even know how to describe it
- Start looking up her body up and down, and get into a little bit of a "dayuum girl, you fine, not bad girl, not bad", she notices and starts smiling in a cheeky sexy way, like "tehehe". I'm like "heeeey" long drawn out and sexy. She goees "heeey heheh".

978 to go

 

[JT Sunshine]

The James Bondian smirk is money! Good stuff man. I call those dolled-up 6s "2am girls"

 

[Bob Z]

Enjoying catching up on your journal man! Very cool to see you on such high momentum being comfortable making all these approaches.

I know your strategy of course is getting these leads funneled into social circle - I'd love to hear more about how this is going and what you are doing in terms of social circle.

 

[bgwh]

Enjoying catching up on your journal man! Very cool to see you on such high momentum being comfortable making all these approaches.

I know your strategy of course is getting these leads funneled into social circle - I'd love to hear more about how this is going and what you are doing in terms of social circle.

Thank you so much. I'm considering whether to journal about the backend or not, as that might dox me. So far I'm keeping it to journaling about the approaching side, and not the follow up.

I'm temporarily taking a break that i'm not happy about. Deadline where something has to be done by a certain date, and cramming 16 hour work days. I plan on making up for it by doing 100 approach days when I'm back.

 

[Bob Z]

totally get that. you could leave out certain details and fabricate others to make it undecipherable if thats not too much effort to be worth it for you.

and hell yeah, godspeed