Smith's journal

[ray_zorse]

This is hilarious guys, when I was a kid there was always a kind of stereotype that Asians work a lot harder, are better at maths, better at Street Fighter... can I add PU to that list? lol kidding

Seriously I mainly approach Asian girls and in my city (in Aussie) I do not really get the "lolwut?" response described above, it has happened but generally they are not particularly surprised at being approached, and this is the best part, usually very polite, kind and nice, any rejection is accompanied by profuse explanations and apologies.

I'd be really surprised to hear that college towns in USA are any different? Though I guess I am in a major city so there's shitloads of students at the several city universities and many language schools, technical colleges etc, but also many who work and live here (usually b/c graduated here and stayed on).

Keep up the good work. And keep the cultural exchange happening, I will do the same Grass is always greener

cheers, Ray

 

[fsc]

any rejection is accompanied by profuse explanations and apologies

I LOLed so hard at this. So true.

 

[Smith]

Dern,

in my experience so far, I guess that's true to a certain extent, since you're always seeing the same people and people are relatively scarce in general. I'm not sure what exact city you're in right now, but from where I'm from, because there's so many people, everyone is just in their own little bubble; all doing their own thing. So yeah, it's true that you're gonna be prone to more rejection, but remember, you'll also have waaaayyyy more girls to approach

I'm in a pretty big city with about 4 million people, so I see a cute girl about every 4 minutes pretty sweet. I've been more selective about which girl to open the last couple of days and it got me better. Maybe a girl in a big city has more options, unlike girls in a small town, so I'm working on being more memorable. I push for insta-date if she's not busy.


Ray,

Seriously I mainly approach Asian girls and in my city (in Aussie) I do not really get the "lolwut?" response described above, it has happened but generally they are not particularly surprised at being approached, and this is the best part, usually very polite, kind and nice, any rejection is accompanied by profuse explanations and apologies.

lol to tell u the truth. I'm in Aussie right now. I get better and warmer response from european girls than asians lol.
What are doing differently that gives you a 'nice rejection' with profuse explanations? lol I only get that from european girls. Maybe it's the foreign factor?

Yesterday, I got a "fuck off" from a chinese girl and She was sitting with her friends. I was like" WHOAH". I did not expect that. That was my first 'fuck off' reaction since I started at the beginning of this year. May I add that there were also a lot of people around lol so she probably threw me under the bus because people are watching. I just calmly walked away like it never happened.
But with that said, there are still some very nice asian girls. It's just that the spectrum is a lot wider and more variable than I thought.

 

[ray_zorse]

Cool, I guess you are in Sydney or Melbourne, I'm in Melbourne, I'm happy to meet up if that works As to the opener there are so many variables, I lean towards it being an outsider thing as you suggested, although there might be elements of inner game, like I kind of expect to be blown out by Aussie chicks so maybe I'm making it happen?

I had a particularly bad one a while back where it started off well, she was like HB7 or so, and I complimented her on her distressed jeans and white top, then I started a few questions, turns out she's on her way out, so I wonder if I could accompany her as far as the door, ask her what carpark she's in, and it goes all weird... she's like why do you want to know, I say I'll walk you as far as the exit and she's like why, and I say so we can get to know each other a bit... I realize later, I looked like a total stalker, and it probably appeared I was scoping her out for an assault. I was worried she might contact security and tell them a dude in white pants was doing creepy approaches hahaha.

Another possibility that could be leading to blowouts is the technical specifics of the approach, I have documented my approach thoroughly in general forum in response to [GC]Jay's question so maybe you should check it out and see if there is anything different you're doing. Although I fall down a bit in the interaction (you've helped me with this enormously, but it's a work in progress) I'm kinda pleased with my approach, as I've done hundreds in only a few short months, and kinda fine tuned it a bit in the process.

cheers, Ray

 

[Smith]

Too bad I'm in Sydney I might visit melbourne sometime since it's pretty close.

I had a particularly bad one a while back where it started off well, she was like HB7 or so, and I complimented her on her distressed jeans and white top, then I started a few questions, turns out she's on her way out, so I wonder if I could accompany her as far as the door, ask her what carpark she's in, and it goes all weird... she's like why do you want to know, I say I'll walk you as far as the exit and she's like why, and I say so we can get to know each other a bit... I realize later, I looked like a total stalker, and it probably appeared I was scoping her out for an assault. I was worried she might contact security and tell them a dude in white pants was doing creepy approaches hahaha.

lol this happened to me a couple of times before, so now if the girl kept walking when I started to talk to her, I don't walk with her unless she's really in a rush but interested. Otherwise, it gets awkward and creepy if u keep walking with a girl and she's not really engaging lol.

Another possibility that could be leading to blowouts is the technical specifics of the approach, I have documented my approach thoroughly in general forum in response to [GC]Jay's question so maybe you should check it out and see if there is anything different you're doing

Your opener is quite good. Not so different than what I do. sometimes I tap their shoulder a bit to preopen when I'm walking alongside them or in a crowded street like I just noticed them. Or I just said "excuse me" in a low and calm voice when they're walking fast. Different from the voice homeless guys use to ask for your money.
But the basic structure is the same - start with a backstory like "I was blah blah blah and I noticed you here. You look really cute with your leather jacket and striped pants! So I wanna come say hello"
I'm a lot less rigid with my opener these days. I'm sure you noticed this as well. Everything flows naturally when you don't think about your opener.

Cheers
- Smith

 

[ray_zorse]

Good points.

About my creepy interaction she likely woulda been into an insta-date had I been more dominant and led her off there, but the problem was I tried to mould the interaction to suit her needs and this was because I felt intimidated by HB7 I think. With Asian women (even much hotter ones) I'm more calibrated because I have more practice and better inner game (I believe they will be polite, nice, submissive, ...).

As to the blowouts generally I'd also suggest location as a factor, I'm definitely biased but my impression of Sydney is it's more cliquey and socially competitive compared to Melbourne and this could manifest itself in bitchiness, blowouts and shit tests. Melbourne people are pretty relaxed even by Aussie stamdards which partly comes of living in an industrial city with nothing much famous (the tennis centre maybe) and terrible weather for 90% of the year, we have nothing to brag about so compensate by getting pissed in laneway bars and eating a lot of international cuisine (and being chilled haha).

Come and visit, hopefully I will have my logistics sorted by the new year and you can "utilize" the spare room hahaha.

cheers, Ray

 

[Smith]

As to the blowouts generally I'd also suggest location as a factor, I'm definitely biased but my impression of Sydney is it's more cliquey and socially competitive compared to Melbourne and this could manifest itself in bitchiness, blowouts and shit tests.

It does seem like people in Sydney is more concerned about status, but I could be wrong. If you want to try Sydney before Feb, feel free to crash at my spare bedroom too haha.

LR- : Japanese Tight hole

This could have easily been a LR, but I couldn’t put my dick inside her because her hole was pretty small and I had trouble staying hard when I put on the condom. (Still so gutted about this!) Nonetheless, it was fun even though the logistics was absolutely terrible.

The Approach
Met her last week on the street. I was getting a string of rejections but I’m glad I pushed through it and talked to her. Chit chat about some stuff and inject some sexuality and touch throughout the interaction.
Me: “I just arrived on Saturday. How long have you been here?”
Her: “I’ve been here for a few months, but I’m alone in the city with no friends.”
Me: “Really?...That’s so sad”
Her: “haha do u have any friends?”
I just looked at her and smiled like she just asked a silly question. Eye contact and pressure.
Her: “haha”
Me: “I have a couple of friends here”

Her: “so you’ve never been to Japan?”
Me: “No, but I always wanted to visit Japan. Maybe you could be my tour guide and potential lover” (I didn’t say this as a question, but more like a statement as if I’m qualifying her)
Her: “hahaha”
Me: “What’s your number? Let’s get coffee sometime”
Her: “I don’t have my phone with me, but leave your number I’ll call you later.”
Normally, when a girl says this, about 90% of the time, she’s not going to call you back, but she seemed very enthusiastic.

#1 Date
Two hours later, She called me, but I missed it. Then she texted me
Her: “Hey Smith, It’s XX. Do you remember? Did you get my message?”
I replied and asked her if she had any plan tonight. She said no, so I asked her to come get coffee with me.

At the café, I still kept up the incidental touch and conversation. After about 20 mins of chatting, I suggested we go for a walk around the park. So far, she’s responding well.
Me: “This looks like a scene in a romantic movie”
Her: “haha really?”
Me: “yea it would only be appropriate if we hold hands” then I put her hand in mine.
Her: “haha ok”
Found a bench nearby and sit down. The conversation got a little bit stale, and I could tell she wasn’t comfortable, so after 5 minutes, I suggested we kept walking.

I tried to pull her in for a hug, but she rejected it saying it’s too fast. I laughed it off and changed the subject. As we kept walking more, we started to hold hands again. Our fingers loosely interlock with each other. We talked about some light sexual stuff. She was still responding well to my touch. After walking for about an hour, which is a bit too long, we walked back to the train station.
We compared the size of our hands.
Me: “Your hands are so tiny”
Her: “Noo, your hands are too big!”
Me: “Well…Big hands are good for one thing ”
Her: “hahaha” she hit me playfully.
I pulled her in for a hug and she hugged me back tightly.

#2 Date
I texted her 2 days later and set up another date. She flaked on me on the day saying she has to go to work and she wanted to reschedule. I replied her text asking when she’s free again. She said she’ll get back to me as soon as she knows her work day.
3 days later, she texted me and we set up another date the next day.

I told her I wanted to go to the beach, and she said she doesn’t mind where we go. Now I think about it, I should’ve suggested somewhere closer than the beach. It took us about 30 mins by bus to get to the beach. At the beach, everything was light and flirty. I thought about kissing her right there, but decided to wait till I pull her home.

After about an hour on the beach, I suggested we go grab pizza at my place. It took us 30 mins by bus to go back to the train station then another 30 mins by train to get back to my place lol. She complained about how far it is on the train and that she’s tired. I kept things fun and light and said “we’re almost there”

At the pizza palace, I told her let’s get take away and eat at my place. I didn’t talk while we wait for our pizza simply because I’m exhausted at making conversation. Then she said, “let’s just eat here outside”
I knew staying here could mean the end of everything.
Me: “Na, it’s getting cold and my place is just two minutes away”
She went outside and sit on a chair, and started smoking.
When the pizza came, I immediately grabbed the pizza and told her
Me: “Ok! Let’s go!”
She put up a little resistance, but followed anyway.

As we got to my place, she complimented on how modern my apartment is.
We put the pizza aside and started watching some TV.

I told her to come with me to my room to check out the view. I hugged her from behind as we check out the view, and she could probably feel my boner. She wouldn’t let me hug her face to face saying it’s too fast. I didn’t let it bother me, but just kept things light and fun. Then she started to let me hold her closer, which was a good sign.

We went back to the living room and tried searching for some movies, but ended up putting on Frozen because she likes that movie. I told her to lie down on the couch with me and we were cuddling. I tried to pull her in for a kiss, but she turned her face away and said no in a shy voice.
Me: “How about a kiss on the cheek?”
Her: “hmm ok” Then she kissed me on the cheek.

After about a couple more attempt to kiss her, I decided to screw kissing and go straight to escalation. I pulled the shoulder strap of her bra down and started kissing her shoulder and her neck. I didn’t want to do too much too fast, so I kept doing this for about 10 minutes, then I unlocked her bra. She gave a surprised smile. I started to massage her back and feeling her ass. I complimented on her ass and her back.
Me: “Show me your tattoo on your back”
Her: “No I can’t. I’m wearing a long dress”
That long dress was making escalation really difficult.
I put her hand on my crotch and let her feel my boner. She gave a shy excited laugh, and quickly pulled her hand away. After some more chit-chat, I put her hand on my crotch again while kissing her neck. I took off my t-shirt. She started to massage my dick a little, but when I tried to take off my belt, she would pull away. So while kissing her neck again, I slowly took off my belt. I decided it’s time to go to the bedroom.
Me: “do you want to see the nightview from my room? It’s even more beautiful at night”
Her: “Yea sure”

In my room, I told her to lay down with me. She put up a little resistant, but did it anyway. Some more chit-chat and flirting. She still won’t let me kiss her. I pulled her bra down and massage her nipple. She let out a groan.
I took off her dress and her bra. She’s now only wearing her panties. We dried hump each other for about an hour, and she still wouldn’t let me kiss her. I tried to put my fingers inside her, but she wouldn’t let me. I don’t even know how she can resist how hot this is. I think she even managed to come with just me rubbing her outside her panties. I was getting tired and frustrated after about an hour and a half of this. She wanted to take a shower, so she jerked me off and I came on her stomach.
Me: “Why won’t you let me kiss you? Is it because you have herpes?”
Her: ‘haha no! No reason”
Me: “Then kiss me”
She kissed me lightly and smiled.

We both took a shower and sat on the couch while watching some videos on youtube.

Then we went to bed at 1.30am super tired.
I woke up early and cuddle next to her.
Me: “what’s the time?”
Her: “it’s 6.30am”
I started to feel her thigh, then I lay on top of her. We started to go at it again.
This time, I just pulled her panties down even though she said no in a flirty way. I started to finger her, but when I tried to put my dick in, I couldn’t. I could only finger her with two fingers, and it felt pretty tight already with two fingers.
Me: “I think my dick is too big for you”
Her: “haha yea”
I tried several positions, but still couldn’t put it in. I was getting a little anxious and started to have trouble getting hard when I put on the condom. It’s like the moment I put on the condom, it just went soft.
I fingered her until she came several times. My hands are pretty sore right now as I’m typing this.
Me: “I told you big hands are good for one thing”
Her: “haha I know!”
She was a bit reluctant to give me a blow job, but she still did it a couple of times for like 10 seconds. I kept encouraging her on how well she’s doing.
Me: “see how deep you can go”
Her: “haha”
Me: “wow”

There were some dirty talk where I pretend she’s Elsa from Frozen and she was loving it.

When her alarm went off at 9am, I couldn’t believe we’ve been going at it for 2 1/2 hours. I still didn’t come, so she told me to hurry up and come so she could take a shower lol.
Me: “has anyone ever come on your face?”
Her: ‘haha no”
Me: “well today’s your lucky day”
Then I come on her face and neck
Me: “Look, it’s a pearl necklace”
Her: ‘hahaha”

It kinda suck that I didn’t manage to put my dick inside her, but I enjoyed the whole seduction.

 

[ray_zorse]

Nice work with the JP girl bro, sounds like she was pretty shy. Actually I also ran into a JP girl who wouldn't kiss or wouldn't kiss for very long and I found it weird.

Yeah I would like to come up to Sydney in about the last week of January, I have a small window of kid-free time, had been thinking of going internationally, but changed my mind, as money is a bit tight at the moment. Having somewhere to crash could certainly make the difference, although I think you mentioned it's 30min from the city, this is the problem I'm dealing with right at the moment and it fucking sucks man. I'm about to meet a girl in an hour and I'm cursing my logistics hard.

cheers, Ray

 

[Smith]

Lessons:
- Be calibrated with my escalation. Uncalibrated escalation may show the girl you're not the kind of guy she dates, especially if she had been with a lot of guys and had a lot of dating experience.
- Talk about her and what she's interested in. Sometimes, I accidentally started to talk about things girls may not be interested in and I can just slowly see them getting bored. I realized this today because an old guy started to talk to me about some random impersonal stuff, and it got me realize how boring it is when you talk about stuff the other person don't even care about. The topic itself may be interesting but if it's not personal and she can't relate to it, then you're not making her feel good emotions.

I think being genuine and not trying to play a persona when I meet girls may be starting to pay off. I may get less numbers and dates but it feels good after you bed a girl because you're being congruent and you don't feel like you have to keep 'working' to keep her interested. You can just chill out and let her be attracted.

 

[Eternity]

Good to see you didn't leave the forums Smith. I think a change in mindset was all you needed.

 

[Smith]

Yea GC forum is not too pickup - ish, but I'm still trying to avoid the pickup languages as much as I can.
I went on an instant date with an American Asian girl today. She told me I have a mellow voice. Yea I wasn't feeling confident because she's the type of girl that seemed to be a little more masculine than the more submissive type of girls I usually go for. I was also trying too hard to 'game' her instead of being present in the moment and be self amused like I usually do. I was saying things to get her instead of saying things to amuse myself while taking things sexual. I was filtering myself and basically falling back to my old bad pattern. It was a pretty flat date. I think the reason I was trying too hard is because I felt like I wasn't good enough so I felt like I need to game her more but then everything i said just became incongruent. It's good to write these things down again to reflect on my mindset.

 

[Smith]

Went on a date today. Too slow to take things sexual and establish touch. Need to remind myself to get sexual and establish touch FAST, otherwise it's hard to change the tone of the interaction to sexual. Better to start sexual then calibrate.

"The universe doesn't give you what you want, it gives you what you need" I repeatedly tell myself this after I said goodbye this girl I've been seeing and sleeping with the last two 1/2 weeks. Everything was going well until last week when she told me she's moving to another city due to a complicated situation. It was a sudden decision. She didn't want to go and I tried to get her to stay.
Her: 'We met in a bad timing"
Me: "You don't have to go. You know. It's not too late to stay"
Her: "*pause* It is too late. I'm leaving tomorrow"
Me: "Every passing minute is a chance to turn it all around"
Her: "hmm....I'm glad we met. It wasn't too late."

"The universe doesn't give you what you want. It gives you what you need". Maybe I'm not ready to get into a relationship. Maybe this is the universe's way of telling me to keep going on my journey. Even though this makes me sad, I have accepted that I may not see this girl ever again. She may or may not come back. I may or may not go visit her one day. Who knows. But I need to keep going.

 

[Smith]

Lesson: Get sexual and touch fast and STAY on the topic SHE brought up to build connection and not bore her.

A funny thing happened at work today. I was taking order from a girl and suddenly she said my name. I have no idea where I met her lol. We got into a conversation, but I wasn't investing much and it made her start investing. I was afraid to ask her name and where we met lol. Then she got her coffee and left.

After work, I walked around to meet some girls as usual, then it started to rain hard, so the only place to go is the mall. I have never been a big fan of the mall, (something about being in a closed space and with lots of people walking by) but now I thought it's time to change that. I think I have overcame by limiting belief. No one really cares. They just walk past.

 

[Smith]

LR: Glad I pushed my comfort zone

LR: glad I pushed my comfort zone

So the last couple of days, I have been trying to meet girls at very crowded places like the mall, since I always feel the 'spotlight' effect whenever I talk to girls at these places.
But I realize that people don't even notice or care.
Anyway, a funny thing happened at the mall today, after I exchanged number with this cute girl. One guy started to talk to me.
Guy1: "Hey do u wanna buy some drug?"
Me: "haha is this some kinda prank?"
Guy1: "haha I'm just kidding, but are you doing daygame?"
I paused and smiled
Guy 1: "we're not cops or anything"
Me: "haha yea I'm doing daygame"
Then we talked a bit more about our journey and exchanged numbers. One thing they told me that really made me feel better about the last two weeks is that they said the city area is the toughest place to meet girls. (so for anyone who wants to visit Sydney, avoid the CBD area at first haha) I was laughing out loud when they said this. I told them I got the worst blow outs I have ever got in my life in the last two weeks, and they both laughed and agreed. Here I was thinking maybe it's my game, when it's actually the environment. Girls get approached a lot by creeps, charity workers..etc in the city, so it's no surprise they'll assume guys like us no different. They say Uni campus is the easiest, so I might try campus sometimes.

Even with that information, I still need to overcome my fear of meeting girls in crowded places, and it eventually paid off.
Saw this girl walking past slowly. I walked up next to her and we started chatting. Her english wasn't that good, but her body language showed clear interest. Asked her what she was doing today, she said she's pretty free. Good. Took her to grab some smoothie.
Since her english wasn't that good, the conversation was pretty one-sided with me talking mostly, but I was talking slow with pauses. Sometimes, we have to use her phone to translate what I was saying. I started touching her lower back sensually and she responded well. Then we moved to a park nearby and sit on the grass.
The conversation was a lot of fluff and not much depth lol
I just kept touching her here and there.
I was deciding whether I should invite her home or get her number. I went with the first option and decided to move fast.
Me: " Let's cook dinner together"
Her: 'huh?"
she handed me her phone for me to type in what I was saying to translate it.
I changed my mind and typed in "My room has a good view, you should come see"
Her: "hmm yea sure"
I got up immediately.
Me: "ok let's go"
Then I hold her hand and we started to walk towards the train station.
Here we go again. 30 minutes train ride.
I used her phone to show her some videos on youtube to pass time when we were on the train, but she lost interest, so we talked about her and some other random things again.
Her: "You're place is really far away"
Me: "It's the next station"
Thank god!
Her: "oh good"

When we got to my place, we sit on my couch for a bit. I was running out of things to say. It was pretty exhausting to carry a conversation for 2 hours. So I suggested we go check out the view in my bedroom. She was a bit nervous when we entered my bedroom. I tried to pull her in closer but I could tell she wasn't comfortable. After we checked out the view, she hold my hand and led me out of the bedroom. I could tell she's not ready yet, so we sit on the couch again.
But soon after we sit down, I pulled her in for a kiss. She kissed me back. I started to talk about some random stuff then kiss her again. I suggested we lay down on the couch and cuddle while watching TV. Kiss her again and escalate a bit until she pulled back a little and said no. I smiled and talked about something else. Repeat the same process again until I took off her bra and her hand is on my dick.
Me: "let's go to the bedroom"

I managed to penetrate her, which is good because I was scared the same thing would happen as last time.
For some reason, it's hard for me to get hard with the condom on, and I'm a little scared to go raw because of STDs.

After we had sex, we bonded more. I cooked dinner for her. She helped washing the dishes.

 

[BarryS1]

Re: LR: Glad I pushed my comfort zone

LR: glad I pushed my comfort zone

So the last couple of days, I have been trying to meet girls at very crowded places like the mall, since I always feel the 'spotlight' effect whenever I talk to girls at these places.
But I realize that people don't even notice or care.
Anyway, a funny thing happened at the mall today, after I exchanged number with this cute girl. One guy started to talk to me.
Guy1: "Hey do u wanna buy some drug?"
Me: "haha is this some kinda prank?"
Guy1: "haha I'm just kidding, but are you doing daygame?"
I paused and smiled
Guy 1: "we're not cops or anything"
Me: "haha yea I'm doing daygame"
Then we talked a bit more about our journey and exchanged numbers. One thing they told me that really made me feel better about the last two weeks is that they said the city area is the toughest place to meet girls. (so for anyone who wants to visit Sydney, avoid the CBD area at first haha) I was laughing out loud when they said this. I told them I got the worst blow outs I have ever got in my life in the last two weeks, and they both laughed and agreed. Here I was thinking maybe it's my game, when it's actually the environment. Girls get approached a lot by creeps, charity workers..etc in the city, so it's no surprise they'll assume guys like us no different. They say Uni campus is the easiest, so I might try campus sometimes.

Thats cool! I've never seen anyone doing daygame the same time I was.

Seems like things are becoming more consistent now. I'd love to live in a big city, especially Sydney. Every hear anything about Gold Coast? My friend went to Bond Uni. and said its like Vegas on the beach (sounds like a dream to me).

 

[ray_zorse]

Surfers Paradise (city in Gold Coast) is awesome. You just laze around on the beach all day and then get some meal from one of many eateries such as in Cavill Ave mall (depends on how upscale u want to go) then drink and go clubbing till dawn and repeat Apartments for short term rental are cheap and plentiful as there are tons of high rises right on the beach. There are also theme parks and activities such as cruises, dawn kayak, speed boat, scuba diving and whatnot. As far as I can make out the local economy is tourism/leisure driven. There are also tons of hot tanned local girls w tattoos and hardly any clothes, as well as visitors from everywhere known (Jetstar flies direct to Gold Coast from Tokyo and Osaka every day, for example). Let's go there
cheers, Ray

 

[Smith]

I met up with this cute girl I've decided to be friends with today, and she told me she has been chatted up by 5 guys on the street in the past few weeks. And she's going to meet up with one Italian guy right after me, and a Swiss guy tomorrow. I laughed when she said this, and I thought I was special. It's good to have a cute friend like her to help me understand what women go through everyday, especially in a big city. That's why you gotta move fast people! lol I teased her about going on so many dates, but she told me she wants nothing to do with them and showed me their text messages. The Italian dude want to teach her Italian while she teach her Korean, which is pretty much 'hiding the banana'. Another lesson: Be clear in your intent!

 

[BarryS1]

Surfers Paradise (city in Gold Coast) is awesome. You just laze around on the beach all day and then get some meal from one of many eateries such as in Cavill Ave mall (depends on how upscale u want to go) then drink and go clubbing till dawn and repeat Apartments for short term rental are cheap and plentiful as there are tons of high rises right on the beach. There are also theme parks and activities such as cruises, dawn kayak, speed boat, scuba diving and whatnot. As far as I can make out the local economy is tourism/leisure driven. There are also tons of hot tanned local girls w tattoos and hardly any clothes, as well as visitors from everywhere known (Jetstar flies direct to Gold Coast from Tokyo and Osaka every day, for example). Let's go there
cheers, Ray

Sounds like a dream! I'm putting that on my top 3 spots to vacation now

 

[Smith]

A little update: I have been seeing this girl almost exclusively now. Things are going well. There were moments of insecurity but I meditated through it and realized it was irrational and due to my past bad experience in a relationship. I have little motivation to go out and meet women now. My mind is telling me why bother, but I want to keep this skill fresh so I went out today. I found myself getting pussied out, but managed to push through the discomfort. I kept having a small problem with stopping girls on the street in the city. It's not major, but when the girl doesn't stop, 90% of the time it didn't go well. I tried to figure out what went wrong, but my reference experience is giving me a mixed result. I have stopped girls from just tapping their shoulder while walking next to them, some girls would stop and the interactions would go well. But it's not a guarantee that they will stop. Maybe walking slightly in front of them then turn my head around to stop them is better, but again it doesn't always work as well. Guess I'll just have to embrace the uncertainties in seduction. Anyway, talked to this girl today who was sitting by herself in a park. Her personality wasn't the best. She kept saying she's a loser...etc. Kind of a downer. She literally rejected my sexual touch on her leg and told me to not touch her lol. I did it very subtle during the conversation and she still noticed it. I ignored her and carried on the conversation, but I dialed down the touch to just shoulder and arm. I didn't realize we talked for 1 and 1/2 hours lol. She stayed to talk to me even though she told me she had to go to church. She told me about her sad life story. I didn't judge her, but she's not exactly the kinda person I want to hang out with. She kept going back to how she got fired fro her job, and I probably should have left when she rejected my sexual touch, but I just can't be bothered. I just wanted to socialize. Then we exchanged numbers.
Me: "Alright, Give me your fake number" (I said this because we were talking about how to get girl's number and she told me she's really bad at making up fake number)
Her: "hahaha. It's...."

I think she's a little crazy to be honest. When I texted her 30 minutes later, this happened.
Me: "Glad to have made a friend today =) smith"
Her: "Wrong number dude"
Not sure if she's fucking me with or joking, because it's totally her number, she became my friend on Line when I put her number on my phone.
Me: "haha bad liar"
Her: 'why?"
Me; "lol cuz I have your Line..."
Her: 'haha lol"

Yea...Don't think I even want to be friends with her now, so I didn't bother reply. She might have been joking but I'm setting clear boundaries for who I want in my life now. A few months ago, I would be so pissed if this happened to me and started to over-analyze the interaction to figure out what went wrong, but now I know some things are just out of your control.

 

[Smith]

I was catching up with a female friend of mine. I asked her about the two guys (one Italian and one Swiss) who she met during the day and had dinner with, and asked her how things were going between them. She told me she was just using them to practice her English. She already went on 2 dates with the Swiss guy. He paid for dinner on both dates. He told her he liked her on their last date, but when she asked him what he liked about her, he shrugged and said "I don't know". Bad response and bad move showing your card before you sleep with a girl. He moved too slow and tried to date her. Then she showed me his text message. When the Swiss guys asked her out again to grab a drink over text, she basically told him she's not going to be his gf because she wants a guy to buy a lot of things for her and he's too frugal for her. When I asked her if that's true, she said it was. But anyway, she rejected his offer saying she has a party to go to, but told me she lied about it. The old me would have been bitter about this, but now I understand why women do that and actually feel like I have grown and understand women better now. Then the guy texted her a couple of days later saying he's swimming with dolphins and it was fun. lol. She told me she thinks he's lying, and she ignored his text after they exchanged a few text about dolphins. This reminded me how important it is to keep your text straight to the point, and don't try to entertain over text because it's very obvious what you're trying to do. It's very funny to see this from the other side, because I used to do similar things as this guy, i.e. pretend I'm doing amazing things to get the girl to text me back, although not as amazing as swimming with dolphins haha. I think I might just keep to simple and normal rapport building text that lead up to setting up a meet instead of trying to make myself sound like I have an amazing life, because it just screams 'try hard'. I highly recommend having several cute and hot female friends. It would really make you understand women better and see yourself from the other side. Just be aware that you don't take what women say seriously and don't ask them for advice on dating. For example, she might say how she hates that guy, but her emotion clearly shows she very attached to him. Keep cross referencing your own experience and success with women with what they say and it will improve your seduction as you understand them better. Still flirt with them because girls love flirting, and ask them about the guys they have slept with quickly and see how those guys did it. Listen non-judgmentally and you might just learn how to seduce these girls Be their sexy best friend. She also told me I have 'bad manner' and I'm a bad boy, unlike the Swiss guy, who bought her dinner. I was laughing when she said this and teased her a bit. "He seemed like a good-catch. You should marry him" "hahaha nooo"