Smith's journal

[Rage]

Smith this is awesome!!

Feels good to fuck the girl the other guys trying so hard to wine and dine to get huh? (That in itself gets me hard haha)

Thought that turnaround from worst experience to best experience was great and really inspired. And she wanted your dick hard, "this is my best experience" lmao.

You've been with many asian girls huh? I've neever slept with an Asian girl but there are less of them here sorta. I recall narrow j talking about no lmr with native asian girls, have you found that to be true in your experiences?

on that last bit at the end certainly I think calibrating adjusting for girls has to happen. And that much of it is mirroring; your fundamentals and experience are good so maybe you catch yourself doing this now (I do too) which is calibrating to girl based on where she's at on how big her ego is or not how experieneced she is or not, how extroverted or introverted she is or not, and what she is communicating no verbally and stuff too. You match where she's at mirror and go sexual direct.cerbally or no cerbally at the appropriate level based on that adjusting as she shifts.

 

[Smith]

haha thanks Gem!

Yes the day turned out to be quite unexpected I wanted to sleep with the girl I went on a date with but it didn't happen for a good reason.

I can totally picture myself to be that other guy had I not discovered GC!

You've been with many asian girls huh? I've neever slept with an Asian girl but there are less of them here sorta. I recall narrow j talking about no lmr with native asian girls, have you found that to be true in your experiences?

I haven't got together with a real "native" asian girls yet, but some of them have been here for 5-8 years, and some only a few months.
This girl I slept with have only been here for 8 months, but her english was surprisingly good.
As with LMR, I found that once most asian girls decided to be alone in your escalation place, i.e. coming to your place, you have a pretty good chance of sleeping with them. Getting them to come to your place is probably where you'll face the resistance. But once they decide to come with you. Just chill out, escalate then rinse and repeat. Although there's a few that were pretty clueless when they came back to my place and when I made my move they gave me a firm "no".
I haven't slept with that many white girls yet lol even though I like talking to them and they're soooo much more fun to talk to than most asian girls.

Right now, my escalation rule is to escalate then calibrate. But I'm still confused about what happened to the first girl on that day....She seemed to be receptive to my touch at first, then suddenly she went cold when I put my arm around her. Maybe I was moving too fast for her. I think getting a girl to touch you is quite important too, because seduction has to go both ways. Allowing her to touch you breaks the barrier on her side as well. So far, most of my escalation is only me initiating everytime. I'll definitely let the girl invest more by getting her to touch me in the future. Hmmm remember reading this on GC before but completely forgot about it!

p.s. I don't live in the states. But I heard most asian girls in the state is quite cool and open minded too.

 

[Smith]

You would think after sleeping with some cute girls, you should be confident around them by now, but today was not one of those days.
For some reason, my confidence was wavering for the past few days. My conversation is hardly free flowing. Maybe it's because I'm getting really stressed with uni.
In the afternoon, I went on a date with this girl who flaked on me the week before but texted me a few days ago to set up a date.
I usually go to this other small cafe, but this time I decided to go to starbucks. I have never had a good date taking girls to starbucks for some reason. Mainly because it's always crowded there and it's the only starbucks in town. Anyway, I have a bad date history at starbucks. Today was no surprise.

I arrived a little early, and saw a cute girl at a bus stop next to starbucks. My date hasn't arrive yet, so I thought I'll go talk to her. She was a bit aloof and not engaging even though she smiles at me when I talk to her. There was a pause in the conversation when I was waiting for her to re-engage me, but my date arrived. I think she saw me talking to her but wahtever. I greeted my date without looking at the bus-stop girl and walked towards the starbucks. I could tell her eyes were on me as I walked with my date into the starbucks. My date wasn't as cute as I remembered, which was disappointing. To cut this story short, I picked the wrong spot to sit, and I ended up seating too far away from her. I was also "tense" as well. Twice, she said "hello" to her friends, and they were probably wondering who she's with. I think she got paranoid too and kept looking around. After 30 minutes, she said she has to go. Well I really can't be fked too.

Since the date ended earlier than I thought, I decided to walk around and chat up some girls. Talked to this girl in a gift shop. Thought she was cute, but let's just say she isn't exactly my type.
Me: "Excuse me....Hey" I looked at the souvenirs on the shelves.
She looked at me. I have no idea what I'm going to say.
Me: "do you know which one of these things is good for a gift?"
pretty lame, but it doesn't matter. A lot of people think you need a clever "Opener" but it doesn't really matter. You just need to start the conversation.
I could tell she seemed attracted.
Her: "is it for a guy or a girl?"
Me: "a girl"
Then I started to deep dive her and teased her. Fundamentals guys. I found out she's leaving at the end of the month.

Went on an insta-date with her, but since all the other cafe were closed and only starbucks was open, I told her that "let's go sit on the lawn in the campus. It's a great day to be outside", and we walked to the campus.
Talked a bit about some sexual stuff. Reward her with touch here and there.
I got her to touch me as well. We talked for about an hour, then I invited her home. She seemed excited to come see my room.

I put on a movie when we got home. She was a bit "jumpy", no doubt knowing what's about to happen.
I was lying on my bed and she sitting next to me. I decided to got up, and she jumped, thinking I was going to make my move. LOL
Me: "Are you alright haha?"
Her: "Yea hahaha"
After more teasing and chatting, I calibrate my touch this time. Leaning back at times, and she started to rest her hand on my knee a little longer. I thought this one was in the bag, but I was wrong....
She wouldn't let me kiss her, but at the same time we're still touching each other.
After trying to kiss her twice, she looked at the time.
Her: "I think it's time for me to go home. I'm going to miss my dinner"
Me: "Stay for dinner"
Her: "Na I think I'll go home for dinner"
I changed the topic, but soon she got up and looked out the window. I put my arm around her but she was resisting a bit so I backed off.
Her: "I should go now"
Me: "OK"
I was getting tired of her resistance. She wasn't my type, and I didn't think she was worthy of my time anymore.
She walked towards the door.
Her: "it was nice meeting you" she smiled
Me: "yea" I smiled back, and close the door.

I didn't even grab her number.
I was hungry af, and cooked dinner. My mate asked me who the girl was, I told him it was just practice. He saw what I could do last weekend, and was quite impressed. I try not to tell him too much about it because I'm not sure if he would get jealous.

As I was about to eat dinner and put on Games of Thrones, someone knocked on my door. I thought it was my mate, but it was her. She came back!
I was surprised.
Her: "Hi! Can I come in?"
Me: "Ummm yea sure"
She walked in, I closed my door.
I looked at her.
Her: "Yea I forgot....to grab your number. I would like to hang out with you again"
Still looking at her smiling sexily
Her: "so can I get your number?"
Me: "sure, or we could hang out right now"
Her: "oh really!"
Me: "yea, give me a hug"
she gave me a really awkward hug
Me: "Have you never hug people before? That was really bad"
Her: 'haha"
Then she hugged me again, and that was better. It relieved some of the tension, otherwise I think she couldn't handle it.

We talked and I got her to sit on my lap while we looked at her fb photos.
Then when we were talking about our weight, I lift her up and dropped her on the bed.
We cuddled and I tried to kiss her. No go.
So frustrating
I got her to kiss me on the cheek, and that was a lot of work as well. I told her she needed to kiss me on the cheek before I give her my number.
After some fooling around, feeling each other's body.
I kissed her on the neck, turning her on a bit, but then she put her hands up blocking me.
She started to say it's getting dark and wanted me to walk her home. I gave her vague answer and kept trying to turn her on.
Then I ask her a question that's been on my mind.
Me: "Are you a virgin?"
Her: "ummmm.... yes"
I told her I understand if it's going too fast, and no pressure.
Me: "Do you like me?"
Her: "yes I like you?"
Me: "I like girls who also like sex too. I think sex builds close connection with the person you like."
Her: "hmm really?"
Me: "yes"
Anyway, we "kissed" for a little bit, and it's not even full on make out.
She kept begging me to walk her home. I told her I"ll walk her home when I want to.
Then I finally walk her home, which was only about 10 minutes away.
On the way to her place
Me: "so when are you leaving?"
Her: "31st"
Me: "So this is going to be a short romance"
Her: "haha yes"
She texted me 10 minutes after I got home. :" Thanks for walking me home ^^"

 

[ray_zorse]

LOL. I was thinking missed window (when she jumped maybe the effect of expecting your kiss and not getting it sent her into auto rejection) but it seems that was actually getting too technical and PUAey, the true situation was shyness / awkwardness... anyway you're a high value guy, it's cool she came back
Ray

 

[Smith]

LOL. I was thinking missed window (when she jumped maybe the effect of expecting your kiss and not getting it sent her into auto rejection) but it seems that was actually getting too technical and PUAey, the true situation was shyness / awkwardness... anyway you're a high value guy, it's cool she came back

Hey Ray, Seduction confuses the hell out of me sometimes. There's no way you can make everything in seduction logical. Even GC don't have the answer to every question. If this happened to me 6 months ago, I would have assumed she's not interested, but I have learned that there are various shades of grey in seduction.
A girl can reject your touch because she's not comfortable with you, or her friend's around, or she's not in the right mood, or she simply doesn't like you...etc, and I've been trying to come up with a process by looking back at all my seductions and try to find out what it is that I did right so I can focus on them in the future, but you know what? Everything just contradict each other. I could use heavy escalation on one girl, but it wouldn't work on the other. I could just get to know a girl deeply on an intimate level to sleep with her without using any sex talk. There is no particular "system" that works every time. Using your past "reference experience" to interpret things can be a bad thing sometimes.

 

[Smith]

I think I found my vibe back! I've been in my head too much recently. Too much bs and worry about whether or not I should make a move or to express my sexual intent. Forgot to be present and just let go. Got the girl from the previous report home with me today. To be honest, I wanted to cancel the date because I can't be fucked and she wasn't that attractive for me. I moved in to kiss her but she's just ain't receiving it. In the end, I had enough. She insisted I should walk her home. I gave her a firm no because it's not dark outside, and told her I'll walk her home if it's dark. She got pissed and wanted to leave. I opened the door for her and she stood outside my room. I knew she doesn't want to go. After getting her to understand why I don't want to walk her home because I think she's being silly and I have more important shit to do.
She asked me why she should stay. I was upfront about it.

I told her about my view on casual sex and she seems to start agreeing with me, but kinda reluctant at the same time. It seems like she wants a bf.
After getting her to bed, slowly escalating, I got her completely naked but she wouldn't let me finger her. She wanted to see my dick but didn't know how to play with it. She's really inexperienced. She told me she didn't want me to put it in. I was getting frustrated so I pulled back. She asked me to walk her home. I said sure.
Then she seemed reluctant to go, but at the same time wouldn't let me touch her at all.
I'm tired of games.
I got up and put my clothes on. "You can walk home yourself"
She got pissed and started to cry and shit. Then she told me she's not a virgin. What a complete mothabullshit. I told her even if she's not a virgin, she's not very experienced. She put her hand in my pocket. It's amazing how when you suddenly pull back completely, they start to chase you hard.
She said she wouldn't go home unless I walk with her, and that I make her feel like a dog that I just throw out. She said I made her feel like she's ugly by suddenly stop escalating. This solves another question I have in my head for a long time haha girls do feel more attractive when you escalate on them, and it's sexy to make your move. They might resist you for fking 50 times like this girl but in the end they can't deny that it makes them feel good. (BUT be careful with this. how they deny you is key!! Don't get a sleazy reputation if they're seriously telling you to back off)
I empathized with her but was firm that I don't like to waste my time and right now she's wasting my time. After talking for about 15 minutes, I decided to fuck it. I'll walk her home just to get rid of her, since it's only 10 minutes away.
On the way, she told me we won't see each other again for the rest of the 7 days that she's here. I was fine with it and told her it's cool because we have different expectation. Then she kept trying to make me feel bad by telling me that she's not a virgin and that my dick was very small. I laughed really hard at this and joked with her that I know mine isn't that big, then told her I understood what she's doing and she's trying to hurt me to get me back.
After I dropped her off, she immediately called me to apologize and wanted to be friends. lol

 

[Smith]

Time to take this shit to the next level. I want the high caliber girls.
Today was a really frustrating day. I haven't experience this much nervousness for a while when initiating a conversation with girls, even though I meet at least one new girl everyday for the past month just by talking to them when I'm doing my daily routine.
I went out today after class around uni, solely to talk to some chicks. For some reason, this makes me nervous.
Hesitated a lot, and missed some opportunities. Still kicking myself for that.
I stopped posting my small interactions for a while because they seem insignificant most of the time, but now I think I need to analyze some of the interactions today if I can remember them. Today I specifically talked to girls I'm really attracted to, so it took some time because there aren't many girls out at around 5-6pm. Some of the girls I choose not to talk to because they weren't up to my high standards....but that turns out to be quite a mistake.
1st girl - freaked out. My voice wasn't that great. I felt like a complete chode. Was battling some internal crap my mind was telling me.
2nd girl - Married, but I was calm and relaxed. Convo was good.
3rd girl - I ran after her because I hesitated and thought I had already talked to her before, but then when I saw her getting into her car, I realized I was wrong....man your ego can screw with you sometimes....It doesn't matter if I had already talked to her before...If she's not interested, then the results is the same as if I had never talk to her before!!!! wtf was I thinking!
4th girl - voice was good. But she had a bf. It made her day and I felt great!
5th girl - voice was good. Banter was good, but for some reason, the conversation keep getting into the "awkward zone" as we both asked each other questions but getting nowhere, then I realize I did a terrible job relating to her! I thought if I kept bantering, it would make her more "attracted". "There's no reason why you're not enough". I was trying too hard to "game" and "attract her". Overcompensating, and forgot to form that connection with her. She was my "type" look-wise, so I'm really frustrated that I still make this noob mistake. I wish I could turn back in time!!!!!! Sigh

I still wanted to talk to more girls, but it was getting dark.
Now I'm a little pissed at myself. My ego is bringing me down with thoughts like "you will never get high caliber girls blah blah blah".
I don't want to sleep with just "average girls" any more, but I think what I'll do now is to still make conversations with those average girls and be social, so I'm not so stressed about talking to ones I'm really attracted to, and also be more trigger pulling, which means no hesitation and grab the opportunity as it presents itself.

I was a little lost about my goals in seduction, but I think I have found something to motivate me now.

 

[Smith]

So I've been reading "No more Mr Nice. Guy" by Robert Glover. Really good book, and it made me realize I still have some "nice guy" tendencies, especially when it comes to truly expressing myself. Right now, I'm pretty good at expressing myself and my sexuality, but sometimes I'm afraid to say something because I'm afraid to "lose" or offend the girl, but this survival mechanism, as Robert Glover points out in the book, actually has the opposite effect. Anyway, went out today on Easter Friday. Everyone is on a break for a week, so the whole town is pretty dead. Literally only a few people on the street. I'm trying to stay present throughout all my interactions now, but not filtering my thoughts. Rather just be conscious of them and try to catch any "nice guy" tendencies. My mood/state is rather bored and slightly down, like I have no energy to socialize.

Saw a really cute blonde walking past. I used to just ignore them and made up excuses like "She must be a party girl, and I"m not really into that", but deep down I knew it was an excuse. I walked up to her and told she looks really cute. My voice was clear, but could have been louder. She was thrilled and we only chat for a bit.

The street was too dead I wanted to go home. but saw a girl with a camera walking past. She looks like a tourist. Chatted her up but her English wasn't that good. I talked too much about irrelevant stuff. Should shut up for a bit sometimes.

#3
Saw her crossing the street. Nice body. Caught up to her and told her she looked really beautiful with her red sweater. Things were going well until I zoned out for a second.
Her: "I'm doing health science first year. haha I know...lot of people do it"
Me: "haha yea 80% of people are doing that. So what are you aiming for? Med?"
Her: "hmmmm I"m not sure..."
I zoned out for a second
Me: "oh thats interesting" (I said this reflexively.....As soon as this came out of my mouth.I knew I fucked up. I obviously wasn't listening and too stuck in my head. Why the fuck is that interesting?)
Her: "hmm I don't know."
I tried to change the topic by commenting on her necklace, but I could tell the damage was done.

After that interaction, I remember a video by Liam Mcrae about active listening. If you respond to a girl with something like "oh cool", "Oh that's interesting", then you're really not listening.

#4
this girl was sitting by herself on the grass. I walked past and we made eye contact. She smiled, so I told her she looks really cute with her green dress.
First mistake was sitting too far from her. Her bag was between us. I should have choose to sit on her other side. About 10-15 mins into the conversation, she asked me if I have a gf. I told her I'm not bf material. She looked at me for a second then smiled like she "gets it". Then she shit tests me if I do this a lot. I just ignored her.
I later tried to move her to sit a few meters away under the sun because it was getting cold. She was a bit reluctant, but I just sit there and waited for her to move. She was still a bit far. No improvement. She brought up the topic of sex herself. I can't remember how we got to that topic, but she talked about how naughty she was when she was 15. I should have stayed on that topic, and relate to her about my own naughty experience in the past. I think that was what was missing here. Fk what the hell was I doing?! I think I told her "You were such a bad girl", then she told me now she wants to be a good girl because of her parents. I told her fk her parents. Be who you want to be. She said she still needs to consider their feelings. I was trying to think of ways to qualify her on being a bad girl, but forgot how. Now that I'm writing this, I remember Chase's article on qualifying - qualify her by asking questions and relating to her
Now that I look back, I barely relate at all!! We talked for about an hour. She needed to use the toilet, and I told her to come to my place to use it because it's close. She was reluctant, so we said goodbye.

Lately, whenever I tried to move things forward, it feels like a "routine", and I get resistance. Even if the girls get to my place, it doesn't feel "natural."

Chase wrote:
If you walk up to a girl, and don't screen her at all, and then try to move things forward with her -- it feels like your routine. It feels like you're doing the same thing to her you do to everyone, and people don't like that.

Maybe it's because I'm not qualifying and relating to the girl. I know the girl is somewhat interested, but I was like a salesman doing his "routine" and that put her off.

 

[Smith]

I have still yet to figure out a date system that works for me here. Went on a date last Sunday and I thought it went really well! The only thing I wish I had done better is not missing the escalation window to pull her home. I think the conversation was great. Talked about some sexual stuff and relate to her well. There was a pause in the conversation after about 50 minutes. We were both looking at each other smiling, then she said "so what now? we should go". I invited her to come watch a movie after she said that. She said she needed to do some work but immediately counter-offered that we should do it next time. I should have just propose it as something we should do next time, but hey it was worth a shot. I didn't establish touch on the date because we were sitting opposite each other drinking coffee, and only managed some incidental touch in the end when we said good bye.

Anyway, I texted her today, "Hey XX, enjoyed hanging out with you last time =) Let's watch the XX! what's your schedule like?"
No response. This is so frustrating! Second time this happened in the past month. Dates I thought went really well, but then I never heard from the girl again. Seriously wtf?!
Maybe I should have invited her over to cook, but since the kitchen is shared between other 4 tenants, others may also be cooking there at the same time. There's always a chance of being cockblocked by them unintentionally.

Went out today. Hesitated for almost an hour and being inhibited by social fear. Then I thought I'll start from being social and talked to this girl in the bookstore. Forgot to compliment her and being direct. After she told me she's going to meet up with her friend later, I made the mistake of going for an insta-date. Should have grabbed her number instead. She lingered around a bit and made conversation without me prompting as well.

Then I talked to this blonde outside the library. I'm still a bit afraid of being watched by other students around, so I had to wait for her to walk away from the crowd of 4~5 random people. She told me she has a bf, but I didn't mind just talking to her for fun.

I decided to go back to town, which wasn't far. Stopped this girl walking past, or rather tried to stop her. I deliver my compliment but she kept walking, so we walked together down the street. Lately I'm focusing on being present in all the interactions, and it improves my conversation. Deep dived her and teased her for being a nurse and that she just wanted to pick up sexy doctors. Then found out she actually want to be a chef. The conversation wasn't long, because I gave her a false time constraint in the beginning. Invited her out for coffee. She suggested to add her on facebook. I told her I don't really use fb because it's a time drain, so I grabbed her number. I don't feel like it's a solid number because she wanted me to add her on fb, but she replied to my icebreaker.

On my way home, saw a really cute asian walking past. I hesitated to stop her the moment she walked past, so I ended up having to catch up to her. (I'm starting to hate catching up to a girl on the street) She thought we have met before.....I just stayed calm and told her we haven't lol ....Didn't "freeze" this time in the conversation, but it was really weird that she just suddenly said she has to go. I meditated afterwards and realized I was a little "inhibited" in the interaction compared with my other interactions with girls who aren't as cute as her. I was about 90% free, but still 10% "trying to say the right things". It was very subtle, and I was probably communicating it non-verbally.

 

[Smith]

When you are afraid to lose, you become stifled, you take less risks, you play it safe, you end up not winning. You need to let go.
This is what I realized today.
Whenever I'm talking to a stunner, I notice my mind start racing and it just shuts down and I don't know what to say.
Whenever I'm talking to a girl I feel entitled to, I don't give a fuck what she thinks, I'm just amplifying my own state, and I'm not trying to "win her over", but neither am I afraid to "lose her".

Today, a really cute girl seemed really into me. Giving me all kinds of IOI during the conversation, but somehow my mind just can't fking believe it. "OMG she's so fucking hot" is what was on my mind, even though I tried to stay present. I ended up playing it safe and should have lead like a man. Even though I got her number, she didn't reply my ice breaker. Right after that, I talked to a girl who is cute but I feel entitled to, I feel comfortable when I was talking to her, and I ended up having more fun talking to her. I wasn't afraid of "losing her interest". Even though I didn't get her number, that feeling of being free is rewarding.

I watched RSD Tyler, RSD Max's daygame video. Both of their daygame look just like their nightgame, except maybe they dialed down the physicality by like only 20% (probably only 10% for Tyler) lol It was mindblowing. Sure they have a lot of experience and know how to calibrate, but the way they stop the girl and their conversation is pretty much the same as night game. They say if you master night game, daygame is like a walk in the park.

 

[Smith]

Getting high caliber girls makes me NEEDY, and I have no idea where I can improve when it comes to these girls, except going back to the fundamentals and trying not to "game" them by over compensating. Often, this neediness is so subconscious that I don't realize it until the interaction is over and I'm reflecting back on it.
My new definition of game is to remove all the mental bs that prevents you from expressing yourself and your true desire.
I'm a little lost at the moment on how to improve my game and have been re-watching some of Tyler's video, and it resonates with me a lot now than before.
Today, I talked to this really cute British-Spanish chick at the supermarket. Started the conversation with some random question about cheese, and deep dived a bit and found out she's doing her PHD here. When I expressed my intent by complimenting her, she looked a bit confused at first then realized I was hitting on her. Same shit happen again when I talk to high caliber girls....I just can't hold a conversation.... But at least this time I wasn't nervous. A major thing I'm trying to improve is to have abundance of positive emotion. Initially, this girl was investing a lot into the conversation, but as I get to know her more (and as she meets more of my criteria for high caliber girls), I become stifled and trying to "get into her party". This is a major sticking point of mine right now. I think she kinda sensed that so she exited the interaction.

After that, I talked to another chick on the street. It was night time already and freezing cold, but I had this urge of wanting to improve my game and break through all the mental bs. I haven't had this urge to improve my game for a couple of months. I was complacent before but now I'm aiming higher. Anyway, this girl started investing early on, but sometimes I found it hard to chill out in the beginning. I can easily do that on a date but during the initial interaction, I have a bad habit of investing more than needed. I was a little better in terms of conversation. 90% free and in the moment. Right from the beginning when she said she was freezing, I had the impulse of moving closer to give her a hug, but...and I'll be honest here, I was a little scared that she'll get creeped out, so I didn't do it....On the other hand, it was a slightly high risk move to escalate from the beginning and could result in major attraction. Then when we were talking about her being skinny, I wanted to tell her "You must have a sexy body under that 5 layers of clothes" but I didn't...., and I was disappointed at myself for not expressing my desire 100%. When I asked her out, she agreed and wanted to get my number instead of giving me hers. OH well, whatever.

Today, at uni, I bumped into a guy, who's just an acquaintance. He jokingly hinted at me that he knows I hit on a lot of girls and had a kinda sarcastic tone. I'm thinking I probably hit on one of his friends. I just laughed it off and didn't respond. It doesn't really bother me. If I get a player reputation, then oh well, it's better than a "nice guy" reputation.

I think I need to build an abundance of girls I'm sleeping with right now while going for high caliber ones. As Tyler says, start building an abundance of average girls then keep replacing them with high caliber ones as you go. It's a positive cycle. You get more swagger with the average ones and you use that momentum to sleep with the high caliber ones. Even though dating and going out is a bit hard right now with uni work, I think it's still doable. It's just rather unfortunate that the girls I slept with earlier this year were travelers.

 

[Smith]

FR+

Went on a date today with a chick I met last week. She cancelled our date last week because she was sick. I could tell she was keen to meet up because I told her I might be late and she was willing to wait for me. Before the date, I was a little nervous I couldn't "be myself" and afraid I was going to get stuck in my head and became my own worst enemy. Fortunately, that wasn't the case. It was raining outside, so she already grabbed a seat at the cafe in the corner. I ordered my hot chocolate and went sat down at her table. I tried to be in the moment and just talked about whatever while deep diving a little. I had to turn the conversation sexual a couple of times to prevent it from getting to platonic and managed to get her to invest by showing me her necklace and her nail polish and establish some natural touch. Then after about an hour, I made some excuse for her to come to my place. I wanted to show her some of my shooting stuff. It was still raining outside. She didn't have an umbrella, so I immediately pulled her in and put my arm around her so we can share my umbrella. She seemed receptive. I kept the conversation flowing and when she told me she likes twilight, I "pushed" her away disqualifying her but then pulled her back in again.

As soon as we entered my house, I grabbed her hand and led her to my room. She sat down on my bed, I turned on my computer and put on some music. We just chill out a bit and shared some stories. Then I sat next to her on my bed as she was looking at her phone trying to show me something. When she was in the mid sentence talking about some shit, I pulled her in for a kiss. We made out. I tried to escalate, but no go. She was still smiling and initiating make outs. She asked me if I just want casual sex. I told her let's just start from casual and see where it takes us. She thought about it and seemed to agree with me.

After facing some resistance, I told her It doesn't matter whether we have sex or not, I'll still like her. She became warmer and let me escalate a bit more now, but still not taking any of her clothes off. After making out and talking for about freaking 4 hours, she still won't take off her shirts, although I have unbutton half of it. She kept asking me if I want to have sex. I told her "yes and I know you want it too" with a sexy smile. She kept saying next time. I suggested some future plan for us to do, and included some role-play. Every time we make out, I could tell she was extremely turned on. Then it was getting late, and she had to go home. She button her shirt back on, but kept making out with me. I could tell she didn't want to go at all. This time I pulled away first but she kept wanting more. "alright! you have to go now or you'll be here forever!" I said. She laughed and reluctantly walked to the door. We kissed goodbye. Now I'm horny af and getting blue balled. This chick is cute enough that I don't mind keeping her around.

 

[Smith]

A funny and strange thing is on my mind recently, and it's about attaching your identity to sleeping with average girls. I remember Chase talked about lowering your standard to increase your experience. Well today, I finish class at 6pm and it was dark and cold already, and I have a test on Friday. First couple of girls I hesitated because I thought I already talked to them before, which is kinda stupid, and now I remembered the post I wrote a few weeks ago about the same situation...should have just talk to them anyway!!! But there's another part of me that's afraid to burn the place down. These days, I try not to talk to too many hot girls because I've been talking to too many of them and I worry about my reputation at the back of my mind. I also want to "save some fish" for the future haha Sometimes, I'll have weird thoughts like "Her friend is probably talking shit behind me" when a girl I had a good interaction or date with didn't reply my text

After about 10 minutes of walking around, I decided to screw it and just talk to any girl because I wanted to go home. Stopped this girl and thought I had a little improvement with my game. I was actually self-amusing and not giving a shit. She asked for my number in the end, and we exchanged numbers. Although strangely, she didn't reply my icebreaker. Because it was dark when we met, so I didn't see her face clearly. I decided to fb her and found out she was pretty ugly......Now I know what it's like to meet girls in nightclubs. Then my mind started to have thoughts like "oh you can only get ugly and average girls! you'll never get the super hot ones!!" In the moment, I panicked and started to look back at the hot girls I dated in the past to prove myself I don't suck. Then I realized I was just seeking external validation to prove myself I'm worthy of hot girls. It was a viscious cycle because in a way, I'm seeking validation from hot girls to prove myself I'm worthy of them. It was like I need good reactions from them to make myself feel good and that I'm worthy of them. This was so subtle I'm glad I was present in the moment and found this out about myself, because I knew this has been at the back of my mind for the past few weeks when I started to aim for high caliber girls, but somehow I couldn't tell what my subconcious thoughts were that were hindering me. I know it's good to start sleeping with average girls, because it gives you good momentum when you're talking to hot girls, but on the flip side don't let your ego attach to your results.

There's a new exercise I'm doing recently. I watched one of Tom Torrero's video on Street improv for daygame and it's a lot of fun, but I found it hard because it can easily put you in your head. The exercise he suggested is to say what you see about the girl, i.e. her walk, her items, her fashion, and twist it around and tease her. You need to be fully present and relax for this to work. The downside is it can easily put you inside your head and prevents you from talking to her or even make you miss your opportunity. So I guess you need to talk (or "open") the girl first then do this exercise. Hence the name Street "Improv". It's not improv if you're planning what to say.

 

[Lotus]

When you are afraid to lose, you become stifled, you take less risks, you play it safe, you end up not winning. You need to let go.
This is what I realized today.
Whenever I'm talking to a stunner, I notice my mind start racing and it just shuts down and I don't know what to say.
Whenever I'm talking to a girl I feel entitled to, I don't give a fuck what she thinks, I'm just amplifying my own state, and I'm not trying to "win her over", but neither am I afraid to "lose her".

It's crazy how such a subtle mind-state change makes such a significant impact. I had the same thing happen this weekend. One night I was on, one night I wasn't and it was all in my head vs not being( conscious vs unconscious)

One of my buddies who is arrogant is able to do this with any girl, because intellectually he thinks himself above all girls even if he is not.... and they love it. Obviously we want to stay semi-grounded as that kind of arrogance can be detrimental, but being able to turn something like that on whenever you want to...... well it would be fantastic.

I like your journals.

 

[Smith]

It's crazy how such a subtle mind-state change makes such a significant impact. I had the same thing happen this weekend. One night I was on, one night I wasn't and it was all in my head vs not being( conscious vs unconscious)

Thanks brum! Yes I agree. If a guy acts entitled, then he is entitled. That's why I think sorting your inner game is the difference between intermediate and advance.

p.s. Yesterday I was looking at the wrong girl's fb lol Today, her fb popped up on the "people you may know" tab. She's actually cute, and not an ugly fat chick. I got confused yesterday because both girls were red heads. Ha! My ego restored!

 

[Smith]

Same shit happened again today. Was talking to this chick on the street then after about 5 minutes, she asked me if I want to hangout again. I would put her as the shy, excited type. She was talking a lot and I think that's a sign she was nervous. Initially she asked for my fb, but I told her I don't do fb...
Me: "I don't do fb"
Her: "oh then do you have a phone number"
Me: "yes...lucky you!"
Her: hahaha luck me!"
The parting was a bit awkward as I asked how to spell her name and she was about to cross the street. I have to say, she is a bit socially awkward, but I kinda appreciate it.
No response to ice breaker!! Can't believe this happened twice in a row. Both girls suggested to hangout again, but no response to text.
In both interactions, I was chill and really not doing much except having fun and letting her invest in the conversation. Maybe I shouldn't have use a chase frame to make myself more attainable and relate to her more.

 

[ray_zorse]

Don't worry brother been flake city for me too, it happens. This morning talked to a woman for half an hour who was hot as shit and totally DTE too, high value career, lots of points to relate on (divorce, kids etc), absolutely killed it, BUT for some reason told a long story about my ex right at the end when I should have been shutting it down and closing out on my terms, needless to say no response to icebreaker, think I will just leave it there. Oh well good practice though.
Ray

 

[Smith]

LR

So this carried on from the last FR+. She was suppose to come over on Monday, but she texted me in the morning saying her friend cancelled on her and asked me if I would prefer to come today. I thought that would be a good idea, since Mon is another public holiday so I get to sleep in if the seduction drags on for too long.

She came over at 6pm and brought a 6 pack of vodka cruizer like I told her. My friend and I were in the kitchen chatting. I was a little afraid things would get awkward because my friend "wants" to learn seduction but won't talk to any girls who's not up to his "standards". In another words, he doesn't go out and meet girls. But I introduced him to her, then quickly lead her to my room.

Start making out then laid her down on my bed. She was a bit resistant to my escalation. A common LMR I notice that girls do is that when they tell you "oh I don't want to kiss/have sex with you", they're usually bullshitting you. This girl said something similar too. I called her out on it with a sly smile. Then she told me to turn off the light, then the rest is history.

This girl is a little too "lovey dovey" afterwards, so I might dial it down a little from now on with her. I still want to go out and keep pimping. Now I'm reflecting on everything, I'm going to carry this IDGAF attitude with high caliber girls.

 

[BarryS1]

Right on Smith!

Did you talk to her about threesomes again like you mentioned? I wonder how it changes after you had sex and if she wants it as a new "to do".

Hopefully she isn't lovely-dovey in public as well. If you two go out tandum hunting together like rsdtyler (lol) that might be a bad thing. When I approached girls while on a date, the ones that I number closed got slut shamed by other girls. Their friends were like, "OMG you are meeting up with that guy, but that other girl really likes him." On one hand they have to deal with drama, but on the other you are a pimp. The shaming of the other girls wouldn't of happened if my date wasn't all over me like holding my hand, rubbing my back, ect. in front of everybody.

I remember you brought up rsdtyler's technique about the girl doing the initial approach and escalation. It seems more discrete that way because a lot of people don't expect it. I am thinking what sounds more unusual, a guy number closing a girl, but he has a gf (oh no he's a cheater!) or a girl getting another girl's phone number, who happens to have a boyfriend (sounds like a cool hangout group).

This sounds awesome, she's cute plus she talked to you about this. Can't wait to hear more!

 

[Smith]

Did you talk to her about threesomes again like you mentioned? I wonder how it changes after you had sex and if she wants it as a new "to do".

haha I totally forgot to talk to her about it. I texted her I had a great time afterwards and she responded enthusiastically. But I'm actually not sure if I want to see her again. I kinda want to spend more time out there talking to new girls. I got really motivated today for some reason.

Because I got laid, I stayed home and didn't go out at all for the last couple of days except going to the gym. It's uni open day today, so there were a lot of people on campus. Some of them look too young, but most people are in groups. I was a little nervous and I really wanted to break out of this barrier of talking to girls when there's a lot of people around watching or when there's a high social pressure. I hesitated A LOT and felt like a complete noob after finally getting my ass into gear and talked to this one chick after an hour. It's funny how time flies when you're nervous and in your head. It went ok. I stopped her when she was going from booth to booth checking out courses. I wasn't in the moment and the conversation didn't flow that well. After that, there were some opportunities, but I didn't take it because of the social pressure. At the back of my mind, I was afraid of burning the place down, which doesn't seem that unlikely. It was freezing outside, so I stayed inside the uni cafeteria and bookstore area. I went home for lunch, then went back out again and had some time to kill before my class start. I decided to try again, and didn't stop this girl properly. I also can't believe I hesitated to talk to this chick in the bookstore and maybe it was the social pressure again. It was a small store. Nonetheless, there was no excuse. Should have talked to her.
On my way to class, stopped this girl, and it was a good interaction. Too bad she was only average looking. I had to stop her from the side and didn't see her face until she turned around when I stopped her. Got her number, but don't think I'll follow up on it.

After class, I had the urge of keep going. There was this really gorgeous girl walking super fast like she was speed walking. It was about to rain. I tried really hard to catch up to her, but she ended up going into the supermarket. I thought I might as well do my shopping now, so I went in as well. I did a really weak "opener", in the sense that my voice was half trembling and she couldn't hear me at first lol. Anyway, I was still stifled so there wasn't even a proper interaction to start with, but I'm very glad I tried. It might not be the best interaction ever, but I did the best I could have done at that moment and I'm ok with that. Otherwise, I was going to build up a negative momentum.

The next girl I talked to was standing in front of the cereal section. I was still in my head. I complimented her. She was a little shock/surprised. My voice was still a little too high, and I did too much small talk and bantering. I should have deep dived her soon after my banter. I was kinda proud of taking action for this one because there were some people around within ear shot who probably heard everything. I realized I needed to stop having an agenda in the beginning, i.e. get her number, in order to be relaxed like I was before, and stop creating a PUA reality in my mind.

Next girl was looking at the taco section. I started the conversation asking her about the types of taco. After we talked for a bit about the taco, it was getting awkward, and I should have complimented her and introduce myself instead of existing the conversation. My voice was a lot relax and clear in this interaction. I think this always happen to me when I took a couple of days off and didn't even go out to socialize. I almost always go back to my shell, and it takes some time to get back into it again.

I corrected this in my next interaction.

I saw her checking out protein bars, so I stood about a couple of meters next to her and looking at similar things. She moved right next to me. I took it as a sign, but I was hesitating. Then she reached out to grab a protein bar, I knew I had to say something now or I'm going to beat myself up afterwards. So I asked her in a slow and nonchalant voice about the protein bar because that shit look just like all the other ones they have on the shelves. I joked about it with her and I was pretty laid back. Then I turned my head around and looked at her properly. I immediately complimented her on her hat. The funny thing was I didn't plan on this, and I was in the moment, so the compliment feels natural and genuine, because I wasn't seeking or expecting a good reaction from her. She smiled and said thank you. I went back looking at the protein bar. On my peripheral vision, I saw her walking away for a few steps then walked towards me. "Good luck haha" She said.
"haha thanks!" I replied.
I probably should have followed up the compliment and introduce myself. Damn, she was waiting for me to lead.

On my way home, I saw this chick walking in front of me with a nice ass but an average face. I walked up next to her and started a conversation. She looked familiar, and it turned out we probably have met before lol. I have a feel this is going to be a common theme for the rest of the year haha. Anyway I dropped all agenda in this interaction, and decided to NOT get her number. I don't mean it like you're using this as a tactic or a mask in order to get her number, i.e trying to trick yourself into not wanting/getting her number but deep down you're thinking how much better your day will be if you get her number. I actually wasn't thinking about getting her number at all. It's funny when you relieves yourself the pressure to get something from her, you actually start to be more chill and self-amused. Your goal naturally becomes just trying to have fun, like how you are when you're with your friends/girlfriends. It was a fun interaction. I'm going to carry this mindset with me next time. I know it's easier said than done because I knew this before but I have never truly implement it like this time, but I think I'm getting close. This might sound silly, but from now on I'm NOT going to number close girls.