The Ladykiller Chronicles

[Kvothe]

Did some street game today. Gonna follow pancakemouse's nightgame advice and try out a spot he recommended tonight.

Only 1 approach worth documenting. The other 3 I couldn't get to hook-in fact they started backing off. I think I may have come across as too excited, rather than the right level of passionate.

#4 Back-and-Forth
So I see this girl walking, she's in a tight fitting tank top, with some loose fitting light blue jeans. Her butt has the most entrancing back and forth.

There are some points I think that are worth making.

Conversation was okay, we walked for a bit in the same direction, but there are two distinct points in the conversation I want to point out.

<I start turning a corner>
Her: Are you going this way?
Me: Yeah, I'm heading this way
Her: Lucky you, so am I

She firmly put me in the chasing role right here. I should have responded:

Her: Lucky you, so am I
Me: Haha I think you mean lucky you-now you get even more of my devilishly carefree personality

Or something else to make it clear that I am the prize evaluating her.

The other one:

<As we part ways>
Her: Do you want my contact info?
Her: I feel like that's where this is going
Me: Haha sure

I think I should have again, made her qualify more.

Her: I feel like that's where this is going
Me: Haha I mean, I barely know you-I like to spend my time with adventurous, warm, and spontaneous people. Are you that kind of person?
Her: Maybe
Me: Haha I think you're definitely adventurous, it takes a lot of guts to pick things up and move away to somewhere new. If you were to say what things make you spontaneous, what would you say?

I think the above would have been immeasurably more powerful. I am very clearly the prize in the edited situations. She is the one who needs to meet my standards.

Besides those two, the conversation was pretty cut and dry-she didn't really ask me too many questions besides where I'm from.

I made a text outline, but I don't think she'll respond to my first message.

 

[Kvothe]

Went to the beach yesterday, and ended up meditating there for about 20 minutes since there were no girls to approach.

On the walk back I passed this Argentinian girl and asked her to watch my stuff. I was totally and completely zen. I started talking, and she was immediately extremely talkative and sharing details about herself to me.

Honestly the only issue here is I need to learn to shut up sometimes. As I left I suggested we grab a drink, and she started talking about how she was getting off late tonight-but in a way that I think was implying she was down to hang out late, if I was. And I interrupted telling her that we could do after the weekend.

Just shut your mouth sometimes lol.

Only other note was that I should have stayed out even though I was cold, to build comfort, so that I could suggest we just grab drinks at my apartment instead of going out.

 

[Kvothe]

I've been feeling so fucking zen.

Walked to get some groceries, and as I was browsing, one of the most attractive girls I've seen is in the aisle. I ask a quick question, and she is very quickly warm, so I start increasing the conversation, and as she asks for my help with something, I make it a very strong her and me frame. I do a quick number grab by telling her she seems confident and interesting. She tells me I also seem confident and bold. I've sent her a text. Still awaiting a response.

I think the only potential issue with the above was possible venturing towards slightly cocky/funny. We'll have to wait and see if this is true.

Went down to the beach after. I wanted to swim, so I was shirtless. First I stopped and did some meditation on the beach, then I walked, and saw this gorgeous girl chilling on the beach. I pass by her, stare at the sea for a second, then ask her to watch my stuff. I chill out in the water for a little bit, enjoying the surf, then come back. I start a conversation pretty easily, saying how magical the weather is today. She bites, and soon we're talking about all these fun SOTs. The entire conversation is mostly her being deep dived. Outside of what I do, and where I'm from, I didn't really share that much about myself. About midway through our conversation, I drop a little seed about a great bar I know nearby, and let her react to show interest. Once she does, I propose that I show it to her sometime this upcoming week, then grab her number. I also generate a bit of compliance by having her share some of her water with me. I do suggest we move to a shadier spot when she says her tan line is getting bad, but she turns that down.

Interestingly, at one point, she goes to show me the tan lines on her skin where her bikini top was. This involves showing a good amount of skin to me. I play it relatively cool, but I feel like I should have given her a bit of a smirk + raised eyebrow for just a second before responding to up the sexual tension a little bit nonverbally. Either way, I think there is a good amount of sexual tension, from the way she looks at me, and will sometimes look down, to just the way we are looking at each other. Her in a bikini, me, shirtless.

I hope both of these work out. But my momentum is building, and my inner game is at new highs. These girls were gorgeous, and I'm just so excited for what happens next, either with them, or the next ones.

I think a future step for Friday number grabs would be to just give them a call on Sunday evening. Weekend texts never seem to work out very well.

 

[Kvothe]

Not the best night out tonight. Wasn't able to build micro momentum up-not a good excuse, but I felt larger difficulty getting out of my head to be social and open girls.

I did have one approach, where the girl hooked. I ended up buying her a drink though, since I was headed to the bar-in future I should probably buy a drink before opening to avoid wasting this money. Other good bits are that I used the good sex gambit, as well as the submission gambit. However, biggest thing was that this should have been treated as a warm up approach.

Tomorrow will be better. Will focus on mass approaching at venue 1, following the 5 minute rule.

 

[Kvothe]

Ah seduction, you do have your high and low points.

Pretty bad night overall. Feels like I regressed since Friday afternoon. On that day I was at a pinnacle of zen, and everything was going my way. How quickly that can crash. Feels like a key point in the importance of resilience.

Went out today, and while I opened sets, the hook was lacking, and it felt like I wasn't really able to maintain attention or immerse girls in. I did isolate one set, but didn't have a chance to set any gambits or anything. Will listen to SMMA Immersion/Attention tomorrow to refresh on that since it's been a while since I've listened to it.

Neither of the numbers I texted responded, so I will give them a call tomorrow, and hopefully get the dates set up. Bummer if they both flake, but at that point it's back to the drawing board.

The Whole Foods girl, the issue was that I should have just not texted her, or I should have sent a more funny text, rather than the curiosity bait I think. Mostly because it was a short approach, a callback to a humorous even would have been a better transition.

The beach girl I still think might respond, but I think this might be more a Saturday day time text issue. For both, I really should have just called on Sunday evening.

Lesson going forward here-Friday day game number grabs should be called on Sunday, unless initial texting can set a fun, playful vibe to build a little compliance.

 

[Kvothe]

LR: https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/no-english-no-problem.25649/#post-143706

Will call Whole Foods girl tomorrow, as well as try to send a follow up text to Friday beach girl. Would very much like to get one/both of them out on dates this week.

 

[Kvothe]

No approaches this past week. I went down to the beach yesterday, but couldn't find any sets.

Today I went to downtown, but I let my AA get the better of me. I basically ended up walking around for 2 hours. I'd walk past a girl I wanted to approach, intended to use indirect street game, but then just not say anything.

From an old coaching session I had with Gunwitch, as well as from the stages of approach anxiety (I feel like I'm in habitual avoidance), it is clear that I need to enter a short phase of approach artistry. My goal will be 3 days of approaching in downtown (focusing on street approaching), to help get over the avoidance I have. Once my level of avoidance drops (as I don't feel much emotional stress), I can start focusing on being more calibrated on the openers.

 

[Kvothe]

Had an insta-date yesterday. Will publish FR once that has reached its conclusion as I hadn't been able to pull.

Not able to go out tonight due to work stuff, so will try to work on completing that and working on practicing the sexual frustration gambit.

 

[Kvothe]

Went out tonight. Hooking was not good. Focused on body rocking, but I feel that the comments I was making were not very good.

My go-to's right now:

You know what I love about the vibe here?

I need to remember to make them speaker-centered. So focus on my own observation and share them.

Additionally, I need to figure out how to open girls who are in sets. Too many times it's like the girl is in a group, but not talking, but I chicken out of actually talking to her.

Additionally, the week of not many approaches definitely hurt. What a waste of the sexual momentum boost from Sunday's pull.

Goals for this week are to approach, and get rejected, a lot. Build up that habit of approaching. While smooth will be attempted, the goal is to open. Specifically during the week, I plan to go to downtown and want to work on my street approaches.

Tomorrow is a beach day, which I've started to get the hang of a lot, and am finding to be a super relaxed way of doing. At the same time, working on my sexual vibe is always something that needs to be done. I practiced the sexual frustration gambit, but it needs more practice to perfect and get the nuances of before I can deliver it properly.

 

[Kvothe]

Did an approach in my gym clothes on the way to the gym this morning (around 8:30AM). Saw a girl trying to get into a store and it was locked, so made a situational joke while body rocking. She hooked so started a conversation. I suggested we meet up to grab a drink on the beach and she was down, so traded numbers.

Texted her around 11, no response until 3 when she suggested meeting at 7 instead. I said I was down and suggested a bar to meet at. She asked for food first, and I said sure, then the girl suggested a place that was super fucking ritzy. I ended up ghosting on this as there wasn't a frame I could think of to turn this around.

She sent a message to me later in the day around 6 with what could be perceived as catty, or playful. So I've left it with no reply.

Little bit of a bummer, but in this case I think this one is mainly on the girl.

Main fix I would have done was to have responded to her food suggestion with a concrete spot instead of letting her suggest a location.

This week I want to work on approaching a lot. To that end I'm going to daygame in some of the downtown areas, focusing on doing a lot of street approaches.

Have also been practicing the sexual frustration gambit, though that will still take time to get down as it's a longer gambit to work with.

 

[Kvothe]

Was able to do some street approaching today. Area I went to wasn't good, I'll probably stick to the area I was at last week going forward.

Had one solid set at the coffee shop, but she was leaving the city today at 10PM. Blegh.

 

[Starboy]

I was curious who do you hope to target in your approaches? You're in South Beach so I assume you come across a lot of tourists,but do you ever try to meet local women and get a consistent partner while ur in Miami?

 

[Kvothe]

I was curious who do you hope to target in your approaches? You're in South Beach so I assume you come across a lot of tourists,but do you ever try to meet local women and get a consistent partner while ur in Miami?

I target whoever I find attractive-or accessible. So stationary solo girls on the beach are great-who tend to be either tourists or locals. Both the lays have been tourists. My makeout was a local, and a different date was a local as well. I'm diverging into street game because I need the practice and it's more of a long term play to work on while I'm here.

Girl I'm trying to get out from Whole Foods is a new local.

As to a consistent partner, that isn't the goal right now, and I think would actually go against my desires. I'm not opposed to a fb, but one of the entire reasons for me coming out here was to be alone and practice game. I sincerely want to avoid this: https://www.girlschase.com/content/...riends-right-after-major-pickup-breakthroughs

I've had this happen too many times to myself (not with monogamy, but dropping out of the game right as I'm on the precipice of breakthroughs). It hurts to know how much better off I could have been had those pauses and breaks not occurred, but there's no point wasting time on regrets like that. Needless to say, I've made changes to how I plan entire years in order to avoid losing the breakthroughs again.

 

[Kvothe]

Went to downtown today. Had a solid set with a girl who's new to the city. Hopefully can convert that. Only issue-I started going into the good sex gambit, but stopped before delivering the line that I like good sex, and only did the contrast where I say how it's pathetic that guys think about only sex. I think the main negative here is the frame of me not caring about sex, therefore putting me into friend zone. Will have to be rectified.

Afterward, I walked around downtown for about 2 hours, before doing only one street approach. Something about this terrifies me. And I'm not sure whether I should focus on trying to improve this, or to focus on the easier beach and stationary sets, and try to get as much sex, and dates as possible. Right now, in my current mood, I'm leaning toward the latter.

Going to listen the last section of Gun's SMMA course today, the putting it all together section. I'm wondering if I'll need to have a direct game week or something where I do a lot of spam approaching, even in bad form, just to build up the muscles of actually approaching.

Probably worth specifying that stationary sets I'm doing well with atm, and my issues appear to solely be with moving sets (which are known to be harder).

 

[Kvothe]

Lot of approaches yesterday. Continuing to improve with body rocking, though I'm still not opening certain sets when I should be.

Main girl I want to talk about from yesterday was at the first venue. I hooked strongly, and had isolated her. I had us in our own bubble too. I was super excited to try new sex talk gambits, so decided to try the 8 orgasms routine. I transitioned into it the same way Teevs suggested, contrasting against an imaginary guy who hadn't had sex with a girl he was dating. Then playing the body parts game until I ask her what her clit is for, and she says, "happiness". From here I try the 8 types of orgasm, and it feels like this causes something in the vibe between us to break. I'm talking about it conversationally, not hypnotically. Additionally, she asks me how I know this, and I said I read it in a magazine somewhere. I think that answer might not be so good. It doesn't display social prizing. A better response may have been a skeptical look, followed by ignoring the question and moving ahead. After two orgasm types, I try to fractionate, due to me feeling that she's losing some immersion after the bubble I had created earlier. However, she at this point says she needs to find her friends and go grab a drink, but that I should take her number.

On the bright side, new gambit used. On the bad side, not calibrated in use. Need both in order to win.

I also think I'm too hesitant-I want to be more exciting and hook girls harder. Will have to continue to look into how body rocking, speaker centered pre-openers work, and working on making my hovering -> induced AI be better. Right now I hover, and then don't open.

Besides that, I opened a bunch of girls, but of the ones that hooked, most had boyfriends who were in the venue. But was able to maintain social momentum quite a bit.

Will go out again tonight and try to improve more on yesterday.

 

[Lobo]

8 types of orgasm, and it feels like this causes something in the vibe between us to break.

She likely wasn't immersed as her mind/ subconscious was here:

she asks me how I know this

I wasnt there, but i think this happened because the influence became overt because how cleanly you moved from talking about her clit to 8 orgasms. She prob sensed your maneuver

When i used this routine i was able to slide it through no problem by disconnecting it from me. Before i say a single word of the routine, i preface it by saying "(while on the clit thread) Ah, you know... i actually heard something really fascinating the other day"

she'll get baited
and then you go "yea i was talking with one of my freakier girlfriends and she told me something about women that i honestly still find hard to believe..."

Shell be hooked and then you can covertly do the 8 orgasms with plausiblle deniablity. And as she gets more immersed you can gradually ramp up the hypnotics without triggering fsc as she wont notice or wont care because she likes it

 

[Kvothe]

She likely wasn't immersed as her mind/ subconscious was here:

I wasnt there, but i think this happened because the influence became overt because how cleanly you moved from talking about her clit to 8 orgasms. She prob sensed your maneuver

When i used this routine i was able to slide it through no problem by disconnecting it from me. Before i say a single word of the routine, i preface it by saying "(while on the clit thread) Ah, you know... i actually heard something really fascinating the other day"

she'll get baited
and then you go "yea i was talking with one of my freakier girlfriends and she told me something about women that i honestly still find hard to believe..."

Shell be hooked and then you can covertly do the 8 orgasms with plausiblle deniablity. And as she gets more immersed you can gradually ramp up the hypnotics without triggering fsc as she wont notice or wont care because she likes it

Agreed. I went with how Teevs suggested it in the article, but I don't think she was ready for it at that moment. Plus I think I should have used a proxy as well. Ah well, next time (tonight lol).

One thing I wonder about-part of the benefits of the 8 types of orgasm routine is sexual prizing, so I wonder on the difference between saying you heard it recently, vs knowing it via experience. One implies more sexual prizing, which is what I was trying to go for. Given teevs, Gun, and other advanced seducers regularly uses proxies, I think it's definitely the way to go-but that's where my mind was in that moment.

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Went to the beach today and had a long conversation with a girl there. Pretty standard opener -> speaker centered pre-opener. Was able to do good sex gambit + submission gambit. Girl is fairly religious, but might not be sexually strict. We'll see. She messaged me after we separated giving me dates she was free. So I set that up and will see her on Tuesday night. Given our conversation had sex talk, and sexual undertones, and she knows I'm leaving this city in less than a month-I'm curious.

 

[Skills]

Lot of approaches yesterday. Continuing to improve with body rocking, though I'm still not opening certain sets when I should be.

Main girl I want to talk about from yesterday was at the first venue. I hooked strongly, and had isolated her. I had us in our own bubble too. I was super excited to try new sex talk gambits, so decided to try the 8 orgasms routine. I transitioned into it the same way Teevs suggested, contrasting against an imaginary guy who hadn't had sex with a girl he was dating. Then playing the body parts game until I ask her what her clit is for, and she says, "happiness". From here I try the 8 types of orgasm, and it feels like this causes something in the vibe between us to break. I'm talking about it conversationally, not hypnotically. Additionally, she asks me how I know this, and I said I read it in a magazine somewhere. I think that answer might not be so good. It doesn't display social prizing. A better response may have been a skeptical look, followed by ignoring the question and moving ahead. After two orgasm types, I try to fractionate, due to me feeling that she's losing some immersion after the bubble I had created earlier. However, she at this point says she needs to find her friends and go grab a drink, but that I should take her number.

On the bright side, new gambit used. On the bad side, not calibrated in use. Need both in order to win.

I also think I'm too hesitant-I want to be more exciting and hook girls harder. Will have to continue to look into how body rocking, speaker centered pre-openers work, and working on making my hovering -> induced AI be better. Right now I hover, and then don't open.

Besides that, I opened a bunch of girls, but of the ones that hooked, most had boyfriends who were in the venue. But was able to maintain social momentum quite a bit.

Will go out again tonight and try to improve more on yesterday.

Since you have exotic look foreign in Miami or where you are gaming, use the sexual prizing = you instead of reading a magazine, i can tell you i think i have laid every girl i have ever use the routine with (minus 1 or 2 but no cause of the routine use but other stuff).... Use the "exotic nationality angle" have you ever been with________ in the blank nationality italian, you know what people say about italians we just don't like sex, pause, we like great sex, we just don't do macdonald sex... you know what macdonald sex is? bang banb thank you mom....... In fact most men are so lame that they don't even know women can have 8 different orgams with the right guy? how about you do you know about the 8 orgams? if she says yes, ask her which one day are? (she won't be able to tell you)... if no, then you go into the routine....

when you deliver you did not deliver it the right way somewhere alone the way your delivering it by your micro expressions she saw incongruities... Also don't use the magazine cause with the magazine is not SELF EXPERIENCE, i like to personalize like the women i have had experience those 8 orgasms.... If you get a chance look at my demo and how i deliver:

 

[Kvothe]

Since you have exotic look foreign in Miami or where you are gaming, use the sexual prizing = you instead of reading a magazine, i can tell you i think i have laid every girl i have ever use the routine with (minus 1 or 2 but no cause of the routine use but other stuff).... Use the "exotic nationality angle" have you ever been with________ in the blank nationality italian, you know what people say about italians we just don't like sex, pause, we like great sex, we just don't do macdonald sex... you know what macdonald sex is? bang banb thank you mom....... In fact most men are so lame that they don't even know women can have 8 different orgams with the right guy? how about you do you know about the 8 orgams? if she says yes, ask her which one day are? (she won't be able to tell you)... if no, then you go into the routine....

when you deliver you did not deliver it the right way somewhere alone the way your delivering it by your micro expressions she saw incongruities... Also don't use the magazine cause with the magazine is not SELF EXPERIENCE, i like to personalize like the women i have had experience those 8 orgasms.... If you get a chance look at my demo and how i deliver:

Appreciate the advice as always man! Feels a bit forward for me right now-I think I want to start with proxies so I can practice using the gambits, and then consider moving more into this.

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Went out last night. Unfortunately not much really to say. Opened a couple sets, but mainly the big thing was that I screwed up the order of my venues. It turns out the venue that I usually go to after my warm up will nowadays have a 1+ hour long line to get in. This DISSOLVES all the momentum I've built. I think I'm going to change my plans going forward to go to this second venue at the start and focus on shotgun opening and reopening (similar to the strategy behind mass approaching and body rocking) in order to quickly build up state. The other venue is close to my airbnb, and I can always come back and go there, though it's almost never popping and has a terrible ratio of men to women.

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Stationary sets are doing well, though today I was just too tired to open anything. Previous two stationary sets are still very warm on me, and I should have a date with one of them on Thursday. I've also decided to not focus on streetgame while I'm in this city, and will instead solely focus on beach game, and potential coffee shop game near my airbnb. I would rather get laid than practice street game. Additionally, this place is not as good for street game, but is fantastic for stationary sets, so why wouldn't I focus on getting more meaningful sets, and more meaningful conversaions?

 

[Kvothe]

Went out to the beach, but not too many sets.

Seems everyone is a spring breaker-I ended up taking 3 of the next Fridays off of work, so that I can get 3 more nightgame opportunities.